2024 KTM 300SX Official Thread

Moto5497
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12/11/2023 5:34pm

Should I avoid buying this bike until the piston issue is resolved or is it not as big of a deal as it seems?

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12/11/2023 5:46pm

30 day warranty… wring it out from day 1, if it blows, bring it back to dealer…

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12/11/2023 7:08pm

How's this bike compare to the 350?  I'm a lugger and it feels like I'm always in between gears on the 350.  

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How's this bike compare to the 350?  I'm a lugger and it feels like I'm always in between gears on the 350.  

It makes its power a lot quicker than the 350, riding back to back on both its def more of a lugger bike. The most effective way I’ve found to ride the 350 is as if you want to murder it absolutely wound out. The 300 I like to ride a gear high knowing a quick blip of the throttle moves you fast. 

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12/11/2023 7:51pm
Moto5497 wrote:

Should I avoid buying this bike until the piston issue is resolved or is it not as big of a deal as it seems?

With vortex updating the part number to address it I’d hope that’s a thing of the past. I had an early model year 23 that went 55 hours on the stock piston with zero issues. When I took it apart it looked like it had another 30 hours easy. 

12/11/2023 8:22pm

Currently on a YZ250 but the 300SX is my next bike 100%. Y'all should post pics. 

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If you get a chance, ride an XC to see if you are okay with the tranny ratios. As mentioned before, the spring forks could be...

If you get a chance, ride an XC to see if you are okay with the tranny ratios. As mentioned before, the spring forks could be an easier path to  better front end traction and feel.

The cheapest SX fork fix is buying any used SSS front end or fork. The lowers slide right into the WP uppers!

Cheaper to buy the SX and 6500’s or sss, you’ll end up with better forks and transmission. 

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12/11/2023 8:25pm
Moto5497 wrote:

Should I avoid buying this bike until the piston issue is resolved or is it not as big of a deal as it seems?

The piston issue has been there for years, it’s just more present now that the 300 is being rode by more aggressive riders on mx tracks. Wossner has a updated piston if your worried about it, if you watch the fb groups there is way more issues then just the piston. 

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The piston issue has been there for years, it’s just more present now that the 300 is being rode by more aggressive riders on mx tracks...

The piston issue has been there for years, it’s just more present now that the 300 is being rode by more aggressive riders on mx tracks. Wossner has a updated piston if your worried about it, if you watch the fb groups there is way more issues then just the piston. 

Oh great, but thanks for piston info.

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sandman768 wrote:
I have been riding/setting up my 23 300sx up for woods/gncc… I had my 2016-17 conevalves on the bike for most of its 80hrs, riding mostly...

I have been riding/setting up my 23 300sx up for woods/gncc… I had my 2016-17 conevalves on the bike for most of its 80hrs, riding mostly Mx. I started using the stock Aer forks about 5-6 hrs ago… I could tune them softer for roots, stumps, while my conevalves would need a revalve for dedicated woods riding. While not as predictable as my conevalves, Once I found the air pressure, that worked for me, they are not bad at all..IMO…the only hinderance is getting access to the bleed screws & air pump with my bark busters on. 

Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit  on a 23 mc450

a friend purchased one under these circumstances but isn’t sure now because he says it looks way different 

He says part numbers show the same but he hasn’t had a chance to call IMS to confirm 

just hoping someone may have an educated answer for him before he tears it all apart 

Thanks , Chris 

 

12/13/2023 6:25pm
Moto5497 wrote:

Should I avoid buying this bike until the piston issue is resolved or is it not as big of a deal as it seems?

The piston issue has been there for years, it’s just more present now that the 300 is being rode by more aggressive riders on mx tracks...

The piston issue has been there for years, it’s just more present now that the 300 is being rode by more aggressive riders on mx tracks. Wossner has a updated piston if your worried about it, if you watch the fb groups there is way more issues then just the piston. 

What other issues? Should I wait until the 2025 model? Thanks.

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walent215 wrote:
Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit...

Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit  on a 23 mc450

a friend purchased one under these circumstances but isn’t sure now because he says it looks way different 

He says part numbers show the same but he hasn’t had a chance to call IMS to confirm 

just hoping someone may have an educated answer for him before he tears it all apart 

Thanks , Chris 

 

Sorry, I have no idea if that tank fits both models.. I would be talking to IMS for the facts..

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12/13/2023 10:31pm
walent215 wrote:
Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit...

Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit  on a 23 mc450

a friend purchased one under these circumstances but isn’t sure now because he says it looks way different 

He says part numbers show the same but he hasn’t had a chance to call IMS to confirm 

just hoping someone may have an educated answer for him before he tears it all apart 

Thanks , Chris 

 

sandman768 wrote:

Sorry, I have no idea if that tank fits both models.. I would be talking to IMS for the facts..

He’s planning on calling them for sure 

 

Thanks for the reply

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sandman768 wrote:
I have been riding/setting up my 23 300sx up for woods/gncc… I had my 2016-17 conevalves on the bike for most of its 80hrs, riding mostly...

I have been riding/setting up my 23 300sx up for woods/gncc… I had my 2016-17 conevalves on the bike for most of its 80hrs, riding mostly Mx. I started using the stock Aer forks about 5-6 hrs ago… I could tune them softer for roots, stumps, while my conevalves would need a revalve for dedicated woods riding. While not as predictable as my conevalves, Once I found the air pressure, that worked for me, they are not bad at all..IMO…the only hinderance is getting access to the bleed screws & air pump with my bark busters on. 

walent215 wrote:
Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit...

Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit  on a 23 mc450

a friend purchased one under these circumstances but isn’t sure now because he says it looks way different 

He says part numbers show the same but he hasn’t had a chance to call IMS to confirm 

just hoping someone may have an educated answer for him before he tears it all apart 

Thanks , Chris 

 

That is a complicated question. Which 23 250 2t? They still used the old frame for 2023 Gasgas and 2023 KTM/Husky enduro models. There are two 23 MC450s. One is the old frame the other is the new frame aka factory edition. However Gasgas and KTM have never shared tanks in 2022 or 2024. The Tanks could interchange from 2021 and 2022 but then you had to run plastic to match the tank. So the short answer is a KTM tank won't fit any year of Gasgas without at least changing the plastics. Maybe IMS found a way to make the same tank fit both plastics but that is a question for IMS.

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12/14/2023 7:15am Edited Date/Time 12/14/2023 7:19am
sandman768 wrote:
I have been riding/setting up my 23 300sx up for woods/gncc… I had my 2016-17 conevalves on the bike for most of its 80hrs, riding mostly...

I have been riding/setting up my 23 300sx up for woods/gncc… I had my 2016-17 conevalves on the bike for most of its 80hrs, riding mostly Mx. I started using the stock Aer forks about 5-6 hrs ago… I could tune them softer for roots, stumps, while my conevalves would need a revalve for dedicated woods riding. While not as predictable as my conevalves, Once I found the air pressure, that worked for me, they are not bad at all..IMO…the only hinderance is getting access to the bleed screws & air pump with my bark busters on. 

walent215 wrote:
Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit...

Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit  on a 23 mc450

a friend purchased one under these circumstances but isn’t sure now because he says it looks way different 

He says part numbers show the same but he hasn’t had a chance to call IMS to confirm 

just hoping someone may have an educated answer for him before he tears it all apart 

Thanks , Chris 

 

wrc777 wrote:
That is a complicated question. Which 23 250 2t? They still used the old frame for 2023 Gasgas and 2023 KTM/Husky enduro models. There are two...

That is a complicated question. Which 23 250 2t? They still used the old frame for 2023 Gasgas and 2023 KTM/Husky enduro models. There are two 23 MC450s. One is the old frame the other is the new frame aka factory edition. However Gasgas and KTM have never shared tanks in 2022 or 2024. The Tanks could interchange from 2021 and 2022 but then you had to run plastic to match the tank. So the short answer is a KTM tank won't fit any year of Gasgas without at least changing the plastics. Maybe IMS found a way to make the same tank fit both plastics but that is a question for IMS.

Thank you for the response 

23 Gas Gas 2t Mc250

23 Gas  Gas MC 450 standard edition 

 

12/14/2023 8:46am
walent215 wrote:
Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit...

Random question here but seeing you are an off road racer I was curious if youd know if a 23 250 2t IMS tank would fit  on a 23 mc450

a friend purchased one under these circumstances but isn’t sure now because he says it looks way different 

He says part numbers show the same but he hasn’t had a chance to call IMS to confirm 

just hoping someone may have an educated answer for him before he tears it all apart 

Thanks , Chris 

 

wrc777 wrote:
That is a complicated question. Which 23 250 2t? They still used the old frame for 2023 Gasgas and 2023 KTM/Husky enduro models. There are two...

That is a complicated question. Which 23 250 2t? They still used the old frame for 2023 Gasgas and 2023 KTM/Husky enduro models. There are two 23 MC450s. One is the old frame the other is the new frame aka factory edition. However Gasgas and KTM have never shared tanks in 2022 or 2024. The Tanks could interchange from 2021 and 2022 but then you had to run plastic to match the tank. So the short answer is a KTM tank won't fit any year of Gasgas without at least changing the plastics. Maybe IMS found a way to make the same tank fit both plastics but that is a question for IMS.

walent215 wrote:

Thank you for the response 

23 Gas Gas 2t Mc250

23 Gas  Gas MC 450 standard edition 

 

23 Gas Gas 2t Mc250 is a carb bike and the 23 MC450 is a fuel injection bike. Tanks are not the same or compatible, the 450 tank would have a spot for the fuel pump. 

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12/14/2023 10:48am Edited Date/Time 12/15/2023 11:38am

Imma thankin GG red plastic for my SX. Bolts right up? 

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What is everyone paying for OTD price?  

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Moto5497 wrote:

What is everyone paying for OTD price?  

The feller I bought from paid 10,500. But I guess the discounts are in full swang now.

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Moto5497 wrote:

What is everyone paying for OTD price?  

TDC wrote:

The feller I bought from paid 10,500. But I guess the discounts are in full swang now.

I paid $10,800 for my 23 with 9% sales tax in Ca back in Nov 22 and just paid $9400 with no sales tax from an Oregon dealer for my 24.

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Has anyone had any luck using the KTM factory fan kit?  It looks like the XC wiring harness is the same but I don't see the plug dangling by the radiator to plug the fan in.

I know you can get the aux wiring harness but, is like the fan to be ECU controlled like the XC.

I'm curious if a wire can be tapped into or added to replicate the same setup as the fan on an XC.

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TDC wrote:

Imma thankin GG red plastic for my SX. Bolts right up? 

Does anyone know the answer to this?  I would like to build a Red Bull Gas Gas 300 if you can take a 300 SX and put Gas Gas plastic on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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TDC wrote:

Imma thankin GG red plastic for my SX. Bolts right up? 

Does anyone know the answer to this?  I would like to build a Red Bull Gas Gas 300 if you can take a 300 SX and...

Does anyone know the answer to this?  I would like to build a Red Bull Gas Gas 300 if you can take a 300 SX and put Gas Gas plastic on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Gas tank is different I believe. 

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TDC wrote:

Imma thankin GG red plastic for my SX. Bolts right up? 

Does anyone know the answer to this?  I would like to build a Red Bull Gas Gas 300 if you can take a 300 SX and...

Does anyone know the answer to this?  I would like to build a Red Bull Gas Gas 300 if you can take a 300 SX and put Gas Gas plastic on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

soggy wrote:

Gas tank is different I believe. 

Subframe is also different. Gas Gas subframe is aluminum while KTM/Husky get the composite/aluminum combo. 

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Does anyone know the answer to this?  I would like to build a Red Bull Gas Gas 300 if you can take a 300 SX and...

Does anyone know the answer to this?  I would like to build a Red Bull Gas Gas 300 if you can take a 300 SX and put Gas Gas plastic on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

soggy wrote:

Gas tank is different I believe. 

Broseph wrote:

Subframe is also different. Gas Gas subframe is aluminum while KTM/Husky get the composite/aluminum combo. 

is the KTM composite now too?  I knew the husky was.

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Found this pic on Facebook feed.  This is exactly what I had in mind.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like subframe, gas tank and plastics and I will be in business!

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soggy wrote:

Gas tank is different I believe. 

Broseph wrote:

Subframe is also different. Gas Gas subframe is aluminum while KTM/Husky get the composite/aluminum combo. 

soggy wrote:

is the KTM composite now too?  I knew the husky was.

KTM/Husky subframe is part aluminum and part plastic. 
 

KTM:

Husky:

Gas Gas:

 

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How 'bout red graphics kit over black or gray plastics kit?

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Found this pic on Facebook feed.  This is exactly what I had in mind.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like subframe...

Found this pic on Facebook feed.  This is exactly what I had in mind.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like subframe, gas tank and plastics and I will be in business!

Probably add air box and boot as well

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4/21/2024 3:49am

I am in the market for another bike. I went to a local dealership yesterday to price a 24 300 SX. It looks like people with 23 models had the most problems. Is a new 24 a safe choice? Any happy 24 owners with a lot of hours on their bikes here?

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40 hrs on a 24. Including 8 motos. And 1 harescramble.  😊 happy owner. Knock on wood.Have the parts on hand for a top end rebuild. Oem piston.

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