Mountain Biking Cross-Satisfaction?

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12/6/2023 8:40am
OwenJakes wrote:

Like all hydraulic brakes - swap at the banjos and bleed?

Falcon wrote:

In most cases you can just remove the whole lever assembly and switch sides - they're functionally ambidextrous for this precise issue.

OwenJakes wrote:
Sorry for the double quote. I was really curious about this. I should be able to simply swap the levers at the bar mounts right? Just...

Sorry for the double quote.

I was really curious about this. I should be able to simply swap the levers at the bar mounts right? Just un bolt and swap sides? I am understanding you correctly, right?

You can do that, but you will see that it’s really a non issue. Only crazy Brit’s and maybe some old geezer types do that lol

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12/6/2023 9:31am Edited Date/Time 12/6/2023 10:20am

Not sure what I'm gonna add to 8 pages other than to back up some things.... to answer the OP   _I_ can be happy just riding MTB's.  Do I miss my dirt bike?  Yeah, sort of. But with good MTB riding, I'm happy. 

1) totally agree on accessibility, convenience, and reduced expense. I ride right out of my office building in Los Alamos and can go for as long of a ride as I want... usually around an hour+ .  Any more and I start getting bored.  Expense is MUCH less than dirt bikes... I buy two new tires every year and get them on sale somewhere.  Just slapped 2 Maxxis DHR/F on the Turbo Levo for less than $100 for the set and that's ALL I've spent other than $10 for some lube.  Dirt bike.... I spend a minimum of $25 every ride just on gas/oil.  I'm almost totally enduro stuff but even so Quicken tells me I spent $3000 last year on gas, oil, filter, chain/sprocket, tires, grips... you know the drill. 

2) At 62 years old, living at 7500-8500', I _love_ eMTB's and have two- a Turbo Levo and a Turbo Levo SL.  Also do DH MTB since my summer place is in Angel Fire NM less than a mile from the DH bike park.  

3) MTB'ing has helped a lot with line choice and momentum, aside from the obvious cardio and leg work out. What it doesn't do is upper body... not like the dirt bike at least...but I think it really helps with the line and momentum.  I noticed a big difference in my enduro smoothness after just a season of DH biking. 

4) I haven't been hurt yet on the MTB and I ride a lot more on it, so I'd say it's safer. 

5) I carry my MTB in the back of my truck (behind the seat of my double cab and inside the Subaru Forester) and frequently stop in Taos and ride trails there on my weekly commute back and forth.   Can't do that with the dirt bike. 

6) I flip my brake levers to front/right, rear/left.  Either by unscrewing and moving cables/bleeding, or just flipping the whole assembly... depends on the brake system.

Here's some stuff to look at:

https://youtu.be/y0eR-PrjJuY?si=zGqpCvns656KQTlc&t=102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpHfIsCyWlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7bPhD05Sjk

 

MTB ride

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12/6/2023 9:47am
Falcon wrote:

In most cases you can just remove the whole lever assembly and switch sides - they're functionally ambidextrous for this precise issue.

OwenJakes wrote:
Sorry for the double quote. I was really curious about this. I should be able to simply swap the levers at the bar mounts right? Just...

Sorry for the double quote.

I was really curious about this. I should be able to simply swap the levers at the bar mounts right? Just un bolt and swap sides? I am understanding you correctly, right?

Ob917 wrote:

You can do that, but you will see that it’s really a non issue. Only crazy Brit’s and maybe some old geezer types do that lol

Laughing

Yes, OwenJakes, you can just unbolt the entire lever perch and put it on the other side of the bars. BTW, I run my MTB brakes American-style - Front brake on the left, rear on the right. I have zero issues switching between bicycle and MX bike. I don't know why, but I've never had a problem. 

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12/6/2023 10:24am
OwenJakes wrote:
Sorry for the double quote. I was really curious about this. I should be able to simply swap the levers at the bar mounts right? Just...

Sorry for the double quote.

I was really curious about this. I should be able to simply swap the levers at the bar mounts right? Just un bolt and swap sides? I am understanding you correctly, right?

Ob917 wrote:

You can do that, but you will see that it’s really a non issue. Only crazy Brit’s and maybe some old geezer types do that lol

Falcon wrote:
Yes, OwenJakes, you can just unbolt the entire lever perch and put it on the other side of the bars. BTW, I run my MTB brakes...

Laughing

Yes, OwenJakes, you can just unbolt the entire lever perch and put it on the other side of the bars. BTW, I run my MTB brakes American-style - Front brake on the left, rear on the right. I have zero issues switching between bicycle and MX bike. I don't know why, but I've never had a problem. 

I may just leave it because my chances of a muscle memory lapse while on a dirtbike are basically zero, but getting on another bike and endoing are pretty high.

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Ob917 wrote:

You can do that, but you will see that it’s really a non issue. Only crazy Brit’s and maybe some old geezer types do that lol

Falcon wrote:
Yes, OwenJakes, you can just unbolt the entire lever perch and put it on the other side of the bars. BTW, I run my MTB brakes...

Laughing

Yes, OwenJakes, you can just unbolt the entire lever perch and put it on the other side of the bars. BTW, I run my MTB brakes American-style - Front brake on the left, rear on the right. I have zero issues switching between bicycle and MX bike. I don't know why, but I've never had a problem. 

OwenJakes wrote:
I may just leave it because my chances of a muscle memory lapse while on a dirtbike are basically zero, but getting on another bike and...

I may just leave it because my chances of a muscle memory lapse while on a dirtbike are basically zero, but getting on another bike and endoing are pretty high.

I have zero issue switching back and forth between motorcycles and bikes.  I tried switching the bike one time to be more "dirt bike like"  and it confused the hell out of me so I switched them back and never thought about it again.     

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12/7/2023 2:02am Edited Date/Time 12/7/2023 2:06am

modern MTBs with 29inch wheels, longer wheelbase and slacker head angle are like cheating compared to older ones, even with less travel. they still corner pretty good. been racing MTBs for 20 years and just started with MX in 2017. downhill racing i think is most similar to motocross, much you can carry over. but as someone here already stated, jumping could be difficult.

i used to seat bounce a lot, or when the front end is too low, just turn the gas and the rear wheel comes down. there is no way to do this on a MTB. had scary moments on some big hits in a Bikepark in Austria this year after riding mostly MX tracks. on the other hand you just pull on the bars in every situation and front comes up. not possible on full size MX-bikes.

it is also cool that you can put Renthal or Yoshimura stuff on MTBs.

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looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring conversion kits for rock shox forks, too. unfortunately there are not available for Fox forks.

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Speaking of tires - Tire pressure has a much more noticeable effect on mtbs than motos. Checking your tire pressure before every ride (even if the...

Speaking of tires - Tire pressure has a much more noticeable effect on mtbs than motos. Checking your tire pressure before every ride (even if the last one was less than 24hrs ago) is one of the most key habits to enjoying a ride. If I'm feeling sluggish on the climbs, and squirrely on the descents, it's usually because I forgot to check my tire pressure. I generally find 25 f/27 r to be my go-to baseline. For steeper / rockier trails I'll go a bit lower; fast / flow trails I run closer to 30 psi. 

Also running CushCore, which I have found to be key for protecting rims (since mtb tires are basically knobby inner tubes compared moto tires), as well as providing more predictable ride qualities. I'm also usually the winner of the "Heaviest Bike Award" on any group ride. 

OwenJakes wrote:
lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I...

lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I haven't even touched the bike yet so maybe I'll love the air but i doubt it. I'll always win heaviest bike too hahahaha.

If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew and switch the brake lines, you most likely wont even need to bleed unless you lose a bunch of fluid. 

I wouldnt get caught up in the spring conversion stuff, its expensive and unneeded. 99% of of pros are on air forks and they go back and forth between air and coil shocks depending on what kind of feel they are after.  

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Speaking of tires - Tire pressure has a much more noticeable effect on mtbs than motos. Checking your tire pressure before every ride (even if the...

Speaking of tires - Tire pressure has a much more noticeable effect on mtbs than motos. Checking your tire pressure before every ride (even if the last one was less than 24hrs ago) is one of the most key habits to enjoying a ride. If I'm feeling sluggish on the climbs, and squirrely on the descents, it's usually because I forgot to check my tire pressure. I generally find 25 f/27 r to be my go-to baseline. For steeper / rockier trails I'll go a bit lower; fast / flow trails I run closer to 30 psi. 

Also running CushCore, which I have found to be key for protecting rims (since mtb tires are basically knobby inner tubes compared moto tires), as well as providing more predictable ride qualities. I'm also usually the winner of the "Heaviest Bike Award" on any group ride. 

OwenJakes wrote:
lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I...

lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I haven't even touched the bike yet so maybe I'll love the air but i doubt it. I'll always win heaviest bike too hahahaha.

AMetts wrote:
If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew...

If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew and switch the brake lines, you most likely wont even need to bleed unless you lose a bunch of fluid. 

I wouldnt get caught up in the spring conversion stuff, its expensive and unneeded. 99% of of pros are on air forks and they go back and forth between air and coil shocks depending on what kind of feel they are after.  

Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip 1. Is it worth it to push past this any time soon? I understand this may be extraneous but as someone who enjoys to tinker and optimize things for fun, this is somewhere I naturally go. One thing that really sold me on the jeffsy is when I looked at the spec sheet, it was really pretty good. Nothing incredible but theres nothing wrong with it. It just works.

I'm going to get some pedals and just ride it for a while. 

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Get a shock pump so you can adjust the air pressure to suit your size and riding before go and fool with the suspension internally. Usually when you fill your fork you have to pump the fork a few times to equalize the pressure between the positive and negative air chambers, check out the owners manual.

Brakes should be a simple swap.  I would just swap the levers and not detach the lines, bike brakes can be a little more finicky than moto brakes to bleed.

Riding in the winter can be hit or miss. Try to go out after a string of dry days and look for official trail closures. Mtbers are more concious of riding through the mud to preserve trail conditions, but riding a bike in the mud and getting everything on the bike caked isn't much fun anyway.

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12/7/2023 8:01am
OwenJakes wrote:
lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I...

lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I haven't even touched the bike yet so maybe I'll love the air but i doubt it. I'll always win heaviest bike too hahahaha.

AMetts wrote:
If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew...

If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew and switch the brake lines, you most likely wont even need to bleed unless you lose a bunch of fluid. 

I wouldnt get caught up in the spring conversion stuff, its expensive and unneeded. 99% of of pros are on air forks and they go back and forth between air and coil shocks depending on what kind of feel they are after.  

OwenJakes wrote:
Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip...

Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip 1. Is it worth it to push past this any time soon? I understand this may be extraneous but as someone who enjoys to tinker and optimize things for fun, this is somewhere I naturally go. One thing that really sold me on the jeffsy is when I looked at the spec sheet, it was really pretty good. Nothing incredible but theres nothing wrong with it. It just works.

I'm going to get some pedals and just ride it for a while. 

It will be a long time before you feel like you need a damper with more adjustments. You can actually upgrade just the damper in the 36 to the Grip 2 if you ever need to down the road. Set your sag front and rear and put the clickers at the starting point Fox gives you. The easiest way to mess with mtb suspension is bracketing, look up dialed bracketing on Fox youtube channel good explanation. 

Unless your riding a bunch of park or something as long as your sag is spot on and your clickers aren't on the extremes you aren't going to be able to notice suspension changes. 

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Loc wrote:
looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring...

looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring conversion kits for rock shox forks, too. unfortunately there are not available for Fox forks.

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Is this a Session that you made into a trail bike?? 

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Loc wrote:
looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring...

looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring conversion kits for rock shox forks, too. unfortunately there are not available for Fox forks.

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Vorsprung makes a coil conversion for a fox forks.

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OwenJakes wrote:
Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip...

Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip 1. Is it worth it to push past this any time soon? I understand this may be extraneous but as someone who enjoys to tinker and optimize things for fun, this is somewhere I naturally go. One thing that really sold me on the jeffsy is when I looked at the spec sheet, it was really pretty good. Nothing incredible but theres nothing wrong with it. It just works.

I'm going to get some pedals and just ride it for a while. 

Get a shock pump and take it with you on the first couple rides in case you are set up way to soft/stiff so you can adjust it on the go. Between fiddling with compression and and pressures I'm sure that will give you enough to tinker with for a while, I wouldn't bother upgrading the suspension. The bike looks pretty good spec wise, ride it for a bit and if something breaks, upgrade. The only thing you may want to look into is brakes, at 207 you might want a bit more out of them. There are lots of great options from SRAM, Shimano, Hayes, formula, hope and magura. If you have more MTB specific questions the guys at vitalMTB can help you out.

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AMetts wrote:
If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew...

If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew and switch the brake lines, you most likely wont even need to bleed unless you lose a bunch of fluid. 

I wouldnt get caught up in the spring conversion stuff, its expensive and unneeded. 99% of of pros are on air forks and they go back and forth between air and coil shocks depending on what kind of feel they are after.  

OwenJakes wrote:
Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip...

Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip 1. Is it worth it to push past this any time soon? I understand this may be extraneous but as someone who enjoys to tinker and optimize things for fun, this is somewhere I naturally go. One thing that really sold me on the jeffsy is when I looked at the spec sheet, it was really pretty good. Nothing incredible but theres nothing wrong with it. It just works.

I'm going to get some pedals and just ride it for a while. 

AMetts wrote:
It will be a long time before you feel like you need a damper with more adjustments. You can actually upgrade just the damper in the...

It will be a long time before you feel like you need a damper with more adjustments. You can actually upgrade just the damper in the 36 to the Grip 2 if you ever need to down the road. Set your sag front and rear and put the clickers at the starting point Fox gives you. The easiest way to mess with mtb suspension is bracketing, look up dialed bracketing on Fox youtube channel good explanation. 

Unless your riding a bunch of park or something as long as your sag is spot on and your clickers aren't on the extremes you aren't going to be able to notice suspension changes. 

Truth be told I am going to be gravel riding 70% of the time. I'm going to enjoy the fire out of some day trips when the YZ isnt an option that week/weekend and those will be to places with some more hits. I hope to slowly make some improvements to my local stuff when I can and will volunteer to improve and build but I'll be travelling for the fun stuff lol. I look into the bracketing thing. never heard of that before so this is fun to learn about. YT is also including a detailed bike setup sheet too which should be helpful.

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OwenJakes wrote:
lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I...

lmaooo heaviest bike award got me laughing. Man, I would eventually like to go to a spring fork and shock with cush cores as well. I haven't even touched the bike yet so maybe I'll love the air but i doubt it. I'll always win heaviest bike too hahahaha.

AMetts wrote:
If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew...

If they are Sram brakes you can flip the whole assembly to the other side of the bar, if they are shimano you can just unscrew and switch the brake lines, you most likely wont even need to bleed unless you lose a bunch of fluid. 

I wouldnt get caught up in the spring conversion stuff, its expensive and unneeded. 99% of of pros are on air forks and they go back and forth between air and coil shocks depending on what kind of feel they are after.  

OwenJakes wrote:
Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip...

Do you think it is worth it to chase upgrades in any way? For example, my bike will have the performance 36 fork with the grip 1. Is it worth it to push past this any time soon? I understand this may be extraneous but as someone who enjoys to tinker and optimize things for fun, this is somewhere I naturally go. One thing that really sold me on the jeffsy is when I looked at the spec sheet, it was really pretty good. Nothing incredible but theres nothing wrong with it. It just works.

I'm going to get some pedals and just ride it for a while. 

I got a YT Capra a few months ago and that is my fav go to out of my bikes, the new” Jeffsy wasn't out yet when I was looking. You’ll have fun with the Jeffsy and should be all you need to get started. Vital MB is okay just not a lot of traffic over there. You tube vids are my go to for info. Mountain bike Tommy is pretty good with vids. For what it’s worth when we go DH / bike parks my non moto friends would laugh at my Chest pro. But if you eat shit doing that you usually end up tearing up or landing on your back. They are wearing chest pros.now🤘
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Be careful it gets way more expensive than moto if you let it! 😂 IMG 5166 1.jpeg?VersionId=HTYCMK

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Lip44 wrote:

Is this a Session that you made into a trail bike?? 

it's a Slash, but use parts from session and remedy to mount the shock. has slightly more travel front and rear

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Loc wrote:
looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring...

looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring conversion kits for rock shox forks, too. unfortunately there are not available for Fox forks.

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wydopen wrote:

Vorsprung makes a coil conversion for a fox forks.

if so i need to get them. i have trouble with arm pump and air stuff make it worse

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Loc wrote:
looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring...

looks sharp. got the carbon version of fat bars too. also converted my bike with a Fox DHX shock and steel spring. they offer steel spring conversion kits for rock shox forks, too. unfortunately there are not available for Fox forks.

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wydopen wrote:

Vorsprung makes a coil conversion for a fox forks.

Loc wrote:

if so i need to get them. i have trouble with arm pump and air stuff make it worse

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3E270053-3ED4-4396-8250-0C6DADE798CA.jpeg?VersionId=JY5QTtFPQQ3tWent on a ride out here after work yesterday. Fun little trail where it’s a nice climb up and a nice fun loop coming down. We just had a enduro race here so we have lots of braking bumps and that makes it fun. You guys ever make it to arizona let me know we have some rad trails out here( just moved here from so cal 2 years ago) and these are better or just as good as so cal. Just be prepared to suffer first😂

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I wish I got off at 1:00 today.... Laughing

I'm going to get some research in tonight on the Flow app and see how I can link my Polar Pacer to any of the apps. I'll check out post some times. Curious to see how my fitness translates from moto/distance running/bodybuilding to mtb.

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OwenJakes wrote:
I wish I got off at 1:00 today....  I'm going to get some research in tonight on the Flow app and see how I can link...

I wish I got off at 1:00 today.... Laughing

I'm going to get some research in tonight on the Flow app and see how I can link my Polar Pacer to any of the apps. I'll check out post some times. Curious to see how my fitness translates from moto/distance running/bodybuilding to mtb.

I just wear my Apple Watch. I can compare all my times on this loop I did on the strava app. I’m not trying to beat my times on purpose,I don’t even look really untill recently as I’m trying to build my fitness and loose weight so I can get back on the 125. Strava works fine for me.

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Things are starting to get busier and busier as the important stuff naturally rises up in life. I am about to make a career change and...

Things are starting to get busier and busier as the important stuff naturally rises up in life. I am about to make a career change and make less money and "work" more hours (albeit maybe more flexible during the week?). We don't have kids yet either. I am taking a sober look at the money and ever-increasing difficulty of riding and wondering if a mountain bike will even shake a stick at motocross.

I've pretty much always ridden. Naturally, I'm pretty fast, skilled, and safe. If I miss a few weeks its not like going back to start. I'm cautious enough not to yardsale it by riding over my head. I could never imagine not riding, so maybe that's the answer right there but I just want to hear some experiences of others who have pursued this. May not be important but I have been a BMX guy most always so I've got cycle "skill" and I'm very very fit so that aspect is enjoyable. It wont be "unnatural".

What I do know is that riding every other month is a real sucky experience. I doubt it gets that bad but I'm not sure.. Discuss? Thanks everyone. Any rich philanthropists reading this I'll take a farm and a bulldozer plz thanks

 

Also do mountain bikes vacuum all your money up like mx? I just wanna ride and I don't need the worlds greatest stuff and I don't mind if everything isn't perfect.

I bought a Trek Rail 7 (ebike) last year and I absolutely love it. You can still get a great workout on the climbs and undulating terrain by getting out of the saddle and charging. You just end up going faster everywhere but still working hard. You'll love it. 

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12/8/2023 7:25am
Ob917 wrote:
Be careful it gets way more expensive than moto if you let it! 😂 

Be careful it gets way more expensive than moto if you let it! 😂 IMG 5166 1.jpeg?VersionId=HTYCMK

I like your brand, color, and lifestyle choices. Cool

12/8/2023 7:19pm
OwenJakes wrote:

Did you think riding the MTB added value to your moto technique in ANY area? Fitness is a given

At that point MX was over unfortunately.  

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12/8/2023 8:28pm

Boys, get in here. AC9E10C1-BE36-4FD5-BEDA-CCABB6977BD6.jpeg?VersionId=PoKApA t1nQx9g1 4MQEJ7

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