Mountain Biking Cross-Satisfaction?

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11/28/2023 11:08am
OwenJakes wrote:
Did you mean this place? https://www.browncountystatepark.net/mountain_biking_trails.htm This goes for everyone, if you have any places to ride near West KY, please suggest. A major part of...

Did you mean this place? https://www.browncountystatepark.net/mountain_biking_trails.htm

This goes for everyone, if you have any places to ride near West KY, please suggest. A major part of the draw to the mtb is that I'll be working weekends every weekend until I die in the near future so accessibility to things on a random monday is important and is something you can do on a bike. Never seen any tracks open monday lol.

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early wrote:
Download "mountain bike project" for your phone, almost all public legal trails will be on there, download the info for all the states near you or...

Download "mountain bike project" for your phone, almost all public legal trails will be on there, download the info for all the states near you or ones you aspire to visit some day.

Biking is not as fun as riding motorcycles, you have to find satisfaction/enjoyment from the grind. Headphones with a good 120bpm mix and you can be in your own little world for 2 hours. It's not the same but I does get your blood pumping with the mild risk of eating shit so that's fun.

For your area a YT izzo would probably be fine but I can understand the draw of wanting to get the jeffsy. Either way it looks like there's alot of trail systems around the lakes there that are not super high level, might even be more fun riding on a hardtail.

Ob917 wrote:

You ride lots different than I do

I would bet I do.

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11/28/2023 11:22am Edited Date/Time 11/28/2023 11:25am
early wrote:
Download "mountain bike project" for your phone, almost all public legal trails will be on there, download the info for all the states near you or...

Download "mountain bike project" for your phone, almost all public legal trails will be on there, download the info for all the states near you or ones you aspire to visit some day.

Biking is not as fun as riding motorcycles, you have to find satisfaction/enjoyment from the grind. Headphones with a good 120bpm mix and you can be in your own little world for 2 hours. It's not the same but I does get your blood pumping with the mild risk of eating shit so that's fun.

For your area a YT izzo would probably be fine but I can understand the draw of wanting to get the jeffsy. Either way it looks like there's alot of trail systems around the lakes there that are not super high level, might even be more fun riding on a hardtail.

Ob917 wrote:

You ride lots different than I do

early wrote:

I would bet I do.

Ok I want to see you ride Windrock on a hard tail. It would be like riding a xr200 on a SX track. No disrespect but if riding Mtbs to you two hours grinding up a gravel road with your headphones in you definitely don’t, unless that’s for a crazy 3,000ft descent 

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11/28/2023 11:31am
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"Also do mountain bikes vacuum all your money up like mx? I just wanna ride and I don't need the worlds greatest stuff and I don't...

"Also do mountain bikes vacuum all your money up like mx? I just wanna ride and I don't need the worlds greatest stuff and I don't mind if everything isn't perfect."

 

Well, I saved money by purchasing a used Turbo Levo, I then put a $1500 set of carbon fiber wheels with the high engagement for that cool sound on it, Tag metals carbon fiber bars, Renthal stem, Fox dropper post, new SRAM GX derailleur, Race Face pedals and a new motor just because I could get a new one for half price with a warranty. They also recalled my battery while my old one was fine, and I have both. I'm now looking for a frame so I can build a second bike with the old parts and recoup some of the costs. 

 

If you are a gear guy like most of us moto guys, you'll be addicted soon and throwing money at it like it's going out of style.

OwenJakes wrote:
You have too much money 

You have too much moneyLaughing 

That is fake news, I'm just very irresponsible. 

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11/28/2023 11:39am
Ob917 wrote:
Ok I want to see you ride Windrock on a hard tail. It would be like riding a xr200 on a SX track. No disrespect but...

Ok I want to see you ride Windrock on a hard tail. It would be like riding a xr200 on a SX track. No disrespect but if riding Mtbs to you two hours grinding up a gravel road with your headphones in you definitely don’t, unless that’s for a crazy 3,000ft descent 

It's not really a competition. I don't really ride downhill, I ride cross country because that's mostly the kind if trails near me. Of course I wouldn't take a hardtail to a bike park. Looking at mountain bike project OPs got about 100 miles of cross country trails within an hours drive for a quick Monday crank session like he was asking about.

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Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get some mtb in and check out any trails. 

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11/28/2023 11:46am
Ob917 wrote:
Ok I want to see you ride Windrock on a hard tail. It would be like riding a xr200 on a SX track. No disrespect but...

Ok I want to see you ride Windrock on a hard tail. It would be like riding a xr200 on a SX track. No disrespect but if riding Mtbs to you two hours grinding up a gravel road with your headphones in you definitely don’t, unless that’s for a crazy 3,000ft descent 

early wrote:
It's not really a competition. I don't really ride downhill, I ride cross country because that's mostly the kind if trails near me. Of course I...

It's not really a competition. I don't really ride downhill, I ride cross country because that's mostly the kind if trails near me. Of course I wouldn't take a hardtail to a bike park. Looking at mountain bike project OPs got about 100 miles of cross country trails within an hours drive for a quick Monday crank session like he was asking about.

Got ya 100%. Good to hear your opinion.
I’ve ridden his area it’s full of sharp rocks and fun descents. And some fun bike parks that’s why I was trying to help by suggesting a mid travel bike. Now if he lived in FL and rode Marquam park I’d say hard tail. But that really won’t scratch the moto itch. 
I love these Mtb discussions 

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Rotaholic wrote:
Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get...

Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get some mtb in and check out any trails. 

Any big bike store will have demo bikes to rent. 

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11/28/2023 11:59am
Ob917 wrote:
Ok I want to see you ride Windrock on a hard tail. It would be like riding a xr200 on a SX track. No disrespect but...

Ok I want to see you ride Windrock on a hard tail. It would be like riding a xr200 on a SX track. No disrespect but if riding Mtbs to you two hours grinding up a gravel road with your headphones in you definitely don’t, unless that’s for a crazy 3,000ft descent 

early wrote:
It's not really a competition. I don't really ride downhill, I ride cross country because that's mostly the kind if trails near me. Of course I...

It's not really a competition. I don't really ride downhill, I ride cross country because that's mostly the kind if trails near me. Of course I wouldn't take a hardtail to a bike park. Looking at mountain bike project OPs got about 100 miles of cross country trails within an hours drive for a quick Monday crank session like he was asking about.

Ob917 wrote:
Got ya 100%. Good to hear your opinion. I’ve ridden his area it’s full of sharp rocks and fun descents. And some fun bike parks that’s...

Got ya 100%. Good to hear your opinion.
I’ve ridden his area it’s full of sharp rocks and fun descents. And some fun bike parks that’s why I was trying to help by suggesting a mid travel bike. Now if he lived in FL and rode Marquam park I’d say hard tail. But that really won’t scratch the moto itch. 
I love these Mtb discussions 

Markham Park was 30 mins and Quiet waters bumped our neighborhood when I lived there. We mobbed all trails on BMX bikes so I know what you mean lol!

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11/28/2023 12:54pm
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I've done both most of my life and I feel that besides the adrenaline rush they are two different type of experiences. Moto is more hyper...

I've done both most of my life and I feel that besides the adrenaline rush they are two different type of experiences. Moto is more hyper focused the whole time and MTB is a mixture of that and enjoying nature. I do also have an e-bike and enjoy that when there are a bunch of steep climbs, but I like my acoustic bike better on rolling trails and downhills.

First two pics is from my trip last weekend to Santa Cruz - trails were amazing!

The last picture is 2 miles down the street from where I live. I have a 16 mile "GP" loop that I do on my e-bike a couple times a week that has some really fun black diamond rocky downhill sections on it. For the Moto guys I think a coil rear shock and a smashpot coil conversion for the fork (which I have on my Levo) is a must for more of a dirt bike suspension feel. Not as much pop of hits like air springs but way more of a planted feel.

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Man, where is this in SD!? I can't think of any spots with trails that close to the water. 

First two pictures are in Santa Cruz from Wilder Ranch, 3rd is from Mission Trails San Diego. I do believe you can get close to the ocean off the Los Penasquitos trail system.

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11/28/2023 4:34pm
Markus422 wrote:
This is likely a West Coast only issue but I would recommend scouting out your local trail regulations before getting into e-bikes. While there are still...

This is likely a West Coast only issue but I would recommend scouting out your local trail regulations before getting into e-bikes. While there are still far more ebiking trails around me than moto trails, enough trails are restricted to acoustic bikes only to deter me from ever considering an e-bike. 

AMetts wrote:
Actually probably much worse here on the east coast as far as e-bikes go. Allowed at any private or city park trails but once you get...

Actually probably much worse here on the east coast as far as e-bikes go. Allowed at any private or city park trails but once you get into the mountains (national forests) where e-bikes are actually useful they aren't allowed.

I always thought it was silly because e-bikes aren't really causing more damage to the trails by riding them. But the issue to me was very obvious during covid as new riders were able to get up climbs and into remote trails much easier and generally e-bikes make hard to access trails much more accessible.

These backcountry trails arent really built in a super sustainable way to be able to handle a ton of traffic. The e-bike covid crowd are the last people that would ever come out for a trail maintenance/build day as well.

I thought in 2019 they okayed e-bikes on national Park trails? BLM is per managerial area on approval, so it's hodgepodge. 

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Rotaholic wrote:
Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get...

Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get some mtb in and check out any trails. 

Well if ya want.... Schedule a demo ride at the YT Mill in San Clemente. They're right next to the dog park trails. I could meet you there and show you some fun trails. We bumped into a guy there a couple weeks ago that was on a demo ride, he looked kind of lost and said he was on a demo ride but had no clue where to go, so he tagged along with us. The first hill we went up he was "Sold"  Lol  They gave him something like a 2 hour window which surprised me. it's not bad way to ride a couple hours for free.   

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11/28/2023 6:09pm
Rotaholic wrote:
Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get...

Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get some mtb in and check out any trails. 

I’ve rented from Pure Ride in Lake Forest for my uncles when they came in town. 
 

I buys parts and whatnot from The Bike Company, also in Lake Forest.  
 

I ride mostly in Laguna and Ranch Santa Margarita.  All of this is in Orange County on the ocean side of the Mtn range that separates us from the moto Mecca. 
 

MTb does NOT come close to replacing motocross for me but still get out on it a few times a month vs weekly on the moto. 

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11/28/2023 6:22pm
Rotaholic wrote:
Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get...

Does anybody know of bike rental in so cal? Coming over early next year for 3 weeks of motocross but would love to try and get some mtb in and check out any trails. 

sumdood wrote:
Well if ya want.... Schedule a demo ride at the YT Mill in San Clemente. They're right next to the dog park trails. I could meet...

Well if ya want.... Schedule a demo ride at the YT Mill in San Clemente. They're right next to the dog park trails. I could meet you there and show you some fun trails. We bumped into a guy there a couple weeks ago that was on a demo ride, he looked kind of lost and said he was on a demo ride but had no clue where to go, so he tagged along with us. The first hill we went up he was "Sold"  Lol  They gave him something like a 2 hour window which surprised me. it's not bad way to ride a couple hours for free.   

That sounds awesome, will DM you closer to the time, we are coming over for the last SX, first MX and riding the days in between 

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11/29/2023 10:03am
Myke wrote:
I've done both most of my life and I feel that besides the adrenaline rush they are two different type of experiences. Moto is more hyper...

I've done both most of my life and I feel that besides the adrenaline rush they are two different type of experiences. Moto is more hyper focused the whole time and MTB is a mixture of that and enjoying nature. I do also have an e-bike and enjoy that when there are a bunch of steep climbs, but I like my acoustic bike better on rolling trails and downhills.

First two pics is from my trip last weekend to Santa Cruz - trails were amazing!

The last picture is 2 miles down the street from where I live. I have a 16 mile "GP" loop that I do on my e-bike a couple times a week that has some really fun black diamond rocky downhill sections on it. For the Moto guys I think a coil rear shock and a smashpot coil conversion for the fork (which I have on my Levo) is a must for more of a dirt bike suspension feel. Not as much pop of hits like air springs but way more of a planted feel.

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Man, where is this in SD!? I can't think of any spots with trails that close to the water. 

Myke wrote:
First two pictures are in Santa Cruz from Wilder Ranch, 3rd is from Mission Trails San Diego. I do believe you can get close to the...

First two pictures are in Santa Cruz from Wilder Ranch, 3rd is from Mission Trails San Diego. I do believe you can get close to the ocean off the Los Penasquitos trail system.

You can get get all the way down to the 5/805 split from The Penasquitos sports park by following the Penasquitos Creek trail. From there it's a few streets and one trail to Torrey Pines State Beach. 

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Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a know it all because of my long history in moto. Some questions if you all feel so kind:

1. What are some general bike "no-no's" that I should avoid? For example, not setting it upside down? No pressure washing (obvious)? Transport? Whatever you feel is relevant that I may not know. Think maintenance too.

2. What are some general riding "no-no's" that should be avoided? Remember, I've been on bikes my whole life but specifically not a 29" mtb. I mostly do not want to end up wadding myself and getting hurt my first time out over something goofy because I assumed it was exactly like a dirtbike.

3. Needed Protection? I am scared of my shins but honestly I'm not intending on taking my feet off and slipping a pedal may not be so bad if you're seated. Knees are an always thing for me. General guidance mostly.

12/4/2023 6:40am

Its riding a bike. Gloves, cover skin, and Id suggest not over gearing unless you are going downhill riding. Full face helmets are excessive almost everywhere. 

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Ob917 wrote:
Not to start a E bike debate but In my opinion all trail systems are going to be allowing class 1 pedal assist bikes soon. Since...

Not to start a E bike debate but In my opinion all trail systems are going to be allowing class 1 pedal assist bikes soon. Since the forestry service just released their study that showed no negligible effects of pedal assist mtbs . Some of the trail systems in Southern California “Laguna” don’t allow E bikes, but there is 0 enforcement and you see mostly E bikes on the trails. Most places allow E bikes tho. Most days I ride my Transition Relay PNWIMG 5172

The local Carrabassett Valley trails don't allow them either, but like you said, no enforcement. I see e bikes all the time on the trails and have zero issue with it! 

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OwenJakes wrote:
Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a...

Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a know it all because of my long history in moto. Some questions if you all feel so kind:

1. What are some general bike "no-no's" that I should avoid? For example, not setting it upside down? No pressure washing (obvious)? Transport? Whatever you feel is relevant that I may not know. Think maintenance too.

2. What are some general riding "no-no's" that should be avoided? Remember, I've been on bikes my whole life but specifically not a 29" mtb. I mostly do not want to end up wadding myself and getting hurt my first time out over something goofy because I assumed it was exactly like a dirtbike.

3. Needed Protection? I am scared of my shins but honestly I'm not intending on taking my feet off and slipping a pedal may not be so bad if you're seated. Knees are an always thing for me. General guidance mostly.

Oh man you as a moto guy you will be fine. Correctly set your saddle height, set tire and fork pressure before every ride, keep the drivetrain clean and lubed, super easy compared to keeping the moto bike good.  I’m sure that bike comes with tire sealant if not get some and ditch the tubes. 
Nobody wears shin guards but yes on knee guards. Padded Lycra under your shorts is super helpful. Not much to it really. 
I run moto stuff as much as I can just because. Renthal bars and stems, 100% helmet and gear, ODI grips 

Stoked for you, post a pic when it shows up

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All I can say is don’t under dress, especially if you’re riding downhill. I have a dh approved helmet that has a removable chin bar. Hot xc rides I remove it but anything remotely fast or downhill it’s on. New bikes have great brakes, the issue isn’t the brakes it’s tire contact when trails get really steep and dry. There really fun but will bite you so be a little careful at first. Also when you loose the front end on a motorcycle you have the throttle. When you loose the front end on a mountain bike your going down. 

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OwenJakes wrote:
Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a...

Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a know it all because of my long history in moto. Some questions if you all feel so kind:

1. What are some general bike "no-no's" that I should avoid? For example, not setting it upside down? No pressure washing (obvious)? Transport? Whatever you feel is relevant that I may not know. Think maintenance too.

2. What are some general riding "no-no's" that should be avoided? Remember, I've been on bikes my whole life but specifically not a 29" mtb. I mostly do not want to end up wadding myself and getting hurt my first time out over something goofy because I assumed it was exactly like a dirtbike.

3. Needed Protection? I am scared of my shins but honestly I'm not intending on taking my feet off and slipping a pedal may not be so bad if you're seated. Knees are an always thing for me. General guidance mostly.

Make sure you're comfy with the brakes being "wrong." You can swap your front brake over to the right hand, if you want. 

(Interesting to note: that's how they come over in Europe. In America, we're backwards on bicycles.) 

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12/4/2023 11:02am Edited Date/Time 12/4/2023 11:03am
OwenJakes wrote:
Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a...

Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a know it all because of my long history in moto. Some questions if you all feel so kind:

1. What are some general bike "no-no's" that I should avoid? For example, not setting it upside down? No pressure washing (obvious)? Transport? Whatever you feel is relevant that I may not know. Think maintenance too.

2. What are some general riding "no-no's" that should be avoided? Remember, I've been on bikes my whole life but specifically not a 29" mtb. I mostly do not want to end up wadding myself and getting hurt my first time out over something goofy because I assumed it was exactly like a dirtbike.

3. Needed Protection? I am scared of my shins but honestly I'm not intending on taking my feet off and slipping a pedal may not be so bad if you're seated. Knees are an always thing for me. General guidance mostly.

2. Understand that the bike won't handle like a motorcycle. Yes, most moto guys/gals make the transition fairly easily, but there are a lot of differences in techniques. Learn to bunny hop and manual. Focus on learning cornering, jumping, and dropping. You will use those skills every time to go to the trail.

Spend some time on YouTube learning the basics of these. I like The Rich Drew Ride Series (old moto guy) and Kyle and April. April was a former pro women's motocross racer, and Kyle is a former pro mtb Enduro/DH racer. Most of their series is devoted to transitioning April from moto to mtb. 

Both are really good teachers IMO. 

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tire pressure makes a HUGE different in how the bike feels. I run 22 front 25 rear on DH casing tires. I'm 190 pounds. 

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12/4/2023 11:21am
The mtb community is filled with the most pretentious assholes of any hobby sport unfortunately. Old white people with money and influence on local government give...

The mtb community is filled with the most pretentious assholes of any hobby sport unfortunately. Old white people with money and influence on local government give mini dads all they can handle 

Have you ever golfed?😂

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I have been Mountain biking for 30 years…have some good friends that I have been riding with for years. It’s more social thanMx for me. Lots of benefits to biking but it can never replace Mx riding for me…

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12/4/2023 11:42am
OwenJakes wrote:
Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a...

Morning friends. I anticipate receiving the bike this week. I have been thinking about how to be humble and approach this differently and not be a know it all because of my long history in moto. Some questions if you all feel so kind:

1. What are some general bike "no-no's" that I should avoid? For example, not setting it upside down? No pressure washing (obvious)? Transport? Whatever you feel is relevant that I may not know. Think maintenance too.

2. What are some general riding "no-no's" that should be avoided? Remember, I've been on bikes my whole life but specifically not a 29" mtb. I mostly do not want to end up wadding myself and getting hurt my first time out over something goofy because I assumed it was exactly like a dirtbike.

3. Needed Protection? I am scared of my shins but honestly I'm not intending on taking my feet off and slipping a pedal may not be so bad if you're seated. Knees are an always thing for me. General guidance mostly.

Falcon wrote:
Make sure you're comfy with the brakes being "wrong." You can swap your front brake over to the right hand, if you want.  (Interesting to note...

Make sure you're comfy with the brakes being "wrong." You can swap your front brake over to the right hand, if you want. 

(Interesting to note: that's how they come over in Europe. In America, we're backwards on bicycles.) 

Like all hydraulic brakes - swap at the banjos and bleed?

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12/4/2023 11:44am

This is an honest question to the bicycle crowd.  When my knees started going from years of Moto and running I bought a cheap ass MTN bike.  30 mile rounds as fast possible.  The cardio was good but it wasn't as much of a workout as running but less pain so what ya gonna do?

Here's the rub (pun intended)...I tried every type of pant, shorts, seat...but the pain from nutsack to tailbone was more than I could bare.  How the fuck do you guys do it?  Don't tell me to "stand up more"...nobody stands up all the time.

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tire pressure makes a HUGE different in how the bike feels. I run 22 front 25 rear on DH casing tires. I'm 190 pounds. 

How important is it to go tubeless? I always thought it was about weight but the more I think about it, it seems to be about flats instead.

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tire pressure makes a HUGE different in how the bike feels. I run 22 front 25 rear on DH casing tires. I'm 190 pounds. 

OwenJakes wrote:
How important is it to go tubeless? I always thought it was about weight but the more I think about it, it seems to be about...

How important is it to go tubeless? I always thought it was about weight but the more I think about it, it seems to be about flats instead.

Yep mainly too prevent flats, also affects how the tire feels, and rotational mass is kinda a big deal as to how fun the bike feels 

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12/4/2023 12:17pm
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Like all hydraulic brakes - swap at the banjos and bleed?

With some brakes it doesn't matter which way you mount them so you can just flip the levers around. Setting your sag and tire pressure is as important as moto. Definitely go tubeless.  

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12/4/2023 1:19pm
plowboy wrote:
This is an honest question to the bicycle crowd.  When my knees started going from years of Moto and running I bought a cheap ass MTN...

This is an honest question to the bicycle crowd.  When my knees started going from years of Moto and running I bought a cheap ass MTN bike.  30 mile rounds as fast possible.  The cardio was good but it wasn't as much of a workout as running but less pain so what ya gonna do?

Here's the rub (pun intended)...I tried every type of pant, shorts, seat...but the pain from nutsack to tailbone was more than I could bare.  How the fuck do you guys do it?  Don't tell me to "stand up more"...nobody stands up all the time.

Some of it is simply conditioning your ass/taint to being in the seat for extended periods of time. Some of it could be poor saddle positioning. It almost sounds like your seat is tilted too far back. Start with it completely level then ride for a while. Make (tilt) adjustments (nose down) if you feel like you're sliding off the back, or (nose up) if you feel yourself pushing yourself back onto the seat. Moreover, after these adjustments, sense where the pressure points are and see if moving either way takes that pressure off.

If you're really desperate, you go to your local shop that does saddle testing and/or bike fit. Good luck!

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