Now that its the off season its obvious that WSX…

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Says who? Is that facts or just some Floppa’s opinion sitting on his couch hating on anything he doesn’t understand? A lot of people are invested...

Says who? Is that facts or just some Floppa’s opinion sitting on his couch hating on anything he doesn’t understand? A lot of people are invested in WSX both financially and emotionally so your throw away comment is crap 💩 same goes for everyone else crapping on the series. Miserable comments say more about the person making them than the series itself. I hope WSX is here to stay!!!!

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Let's see if I can explain it so that you might understand. I refuse to watch minor league sports with a touch of wwf thrown in...

Let's see if I can explain it so that you might understand. I refuse to watch minor league sports with a touch of wwf thrown in. Calling this shit show the wsx is a joke. Racing in a stadium big enough for 30 seconds a lap and 2 row starts does not entertain me. I would watch arenacross over this most likely. Good for the guys getting paid for this including KR94 who is a world class rider in a clown show. Maybe if they would have planned this in the off season or maybe included a round in the states it would have drawn more interest. Hope you enjoy it maybe in 2024 they can regroup and come up with a better plan 

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So you didnt even watch it? I had the same opinion that it was gonna be a complete joke after I first saw the track too...

So you didnt even watch it? I had the same opinion that it was gonna be a complete joke after I first saw the track too, but then youtube recommended me a free stream and I said wtf and started watching and it was actually pretty good. It seems like most ppl that only saw clips or the helmet cam lap are dunking on it but ppl that actually watched the races ended up thinking it was pretty good. 
 

 

I paid for it and watched. Shit show. Video and audio unsynced, clipping, full last part of event including last lap they had issues with video freezing all the way to podium. Still do if you login and try to watch it.

That's beside the 30sec arenacross track with no passing on. Dual starting lines?

For a supercross world championship? If you made this international rounds for the arenacross series, they might be ok. Right now it is freaking annoying them trying to crown themselves as top line SX series.

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11/5/2023 5:13am
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Melbourne track will be unreal

Well Abu Dhabi's track already was.

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11/5/2023 5:45am
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I really don’t understand the people rooting for its failure. Bringing supercross to the world is a great idea.     The biggest problem with Americans, is...

I really don’t understand the people rooting for its failure. Bringing supercross to the world is a great idea. 
 

 The biggest problem with Americans, is that they can’t see past our borders. 

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it has nothing to do with borders.  it has to do with wsx being revenge for the fim being fired from the real SX World Championship...

it has nothing to do with borders.  it has to do with wsx being revenge for the fim being fired from the real SX World Championship, and then proclaiming their new "series" the world championship of SX.   that's it.

Dude, the WSX was being put together long before the FIM was involved. 

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Thank you. If people are comparing WSX to AMA SX, then of course you’re going to be disappointed all day long. WSX is not AMA SX...

Thank you.
If people are comparing WSX to AMA SX, then of course you’re going to be disappointed all day long. WSX is not AMA SX and is not even pretending to be, so I don’t get why people are so offended by it?
However WSX is a long long way from living up to its potential. Let’s just hope they dump the track builder, like they did the previous commentary team. Malin and Langston were an improvement.

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Pretty sure it was Adam Bailey and his team that compared it to SX in fact I’m pretty sure they made the claim to be the...

Pretty sure it was Adam Bailey and his team that compared it to SX in fact I’m pretty sure they made the claim to be the best SX series in the world…what’s disappointing is that they have gotten worse at every round and not better…if you haven’t listened to Lewis’s post race interview with the riders you should…they are the ones that are truly disappointed…

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They made heaps of bad decisions with their approach early on, even Bailey’s admitted that. But that was what, two years ago? Move on man. And...

They made heaps of bad decisions with their approach early on, even Bailey’s admitted that. But that was what, two years ago? Move on man.
And the track was absolutely terrible! However that’s not what I was talking about……

Bad decisions...thats kind of like saying nothing to see here...They should be getting better at their organization not worse...maybe it's time to admit that Adam Bailey is the problem (every partner/investor he's had has run from him)...if the organizers of the Paris SX were running this do you think it would still be the same shit show? And are you just going to ignore what the riders opinions are? They are about to lose teams and riders for next year because of expectations vs reality....They all got into it for the money but if there aren't any races then nobody gets paid....There is no way that they can keep the current team and pay structure moving forward as a 3-5 race off season series...

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DonM wrote:
Pretty sure it was Adam Bailey and his team that compared it to SX in fact I’m pretty sure they made the claim to be the...

Pretty sure it was Adam Bailey and his team that compared it to SX in fact I’m pretty sure they made the claim to be the best SX series in the world…what’s disappointing is that they have gotten worse at every round and not better…if you haven’t listened to Lewis’s post race interview with the riders you should…they are the ones that are truly disappointed…

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They made heaps of bad decisions with their approach early on, even Bailey’s admitted that. But that was what, two years ago? Move on man. And...

They made heaps of bad decisions with their approach early on, even Bailey’s admitted that. But that was what, two years ago? Move on man.
And the track was absolutely terrible! However that’s not what I was talking about……

DonM wrote:
Bad decisions...thats kind of like saying nothing to see here...They should be getting better at their organization not worse...maybe it's time to admit that Adam Bailey...

Bad decisions...thats kind of like saying nothing to see here...They should be getting better at their organization not worse...maybe it's time to admit that Adam Bailey is the problem (every partner/investor he's had has run from him)...if the organizers of the Paris SX were running this do you think it would still be the same shit show? And are you just going to ignore what the riders opinions are? They are about to lose teams and riders for next year because of expectations vs reality....They all got into it for the money but if there aren't any races then nobody gets paid....There is no way that they can keep the current team and pay structure moving forward as a 3-5 race off season series...

I agree.  Comparing Eric Peronnard and Paris SX (and the dozens of other successful events he has promoted) to this joke of a series is ridiculous.  Eric has been attracting the best riders going back to before McGrath and he is well respected across the industry.  If anyone could pull off a World Supercross series it would be him and there is a reason he hasn't.

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11/5/2023 9:53am
UpTiTe wrote:

Dude, the WSX was being put together long before the FIM was involved. 

That only makes things worse if it’s true. 

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On a related note, anyone know the backstory on Jeff Emig not announcing? I saw his IG post and I guess it was implicit he was fired/cancelled from WSX announcing but it was unclear.  I really like Fro as an color commentator through his US SX years. 

11/5/2023 6:18pm
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On a related note, anyone know the backstory on Jeff Emig not announcing? I saw his IG post and I guess it was implicit he was...

On a related note, anyone know the backstory on Jeff Emig not announcing? I saw his IG post and I guess it was implicit he was fired/cancelled from WSX announcing but it was unclear.  I really like Fro as an color commentator through his US SX years. 

Yes, he was let go as well as Ralph and Malin/Langston are now announcing. 

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KurtJ99 wrote:
On a related note, anyone know the backstory on Jeff Emig not announcing? I saw his IG post and I guess it was implicit he was...

On a related note, anyone know the backstory on Jeff Emig not announcing? I saw his IG post and I guess it was implicit he was fired/cancelled from WSX announcing but it was unclear.  I really like Fro as an color commentator through his US SX years. 

Yes, he was let go as well as Ralph and Malin/Langston are now announcing. 

But yet they still used Ralph's voiceover on a segment...after firing him!

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KurtJ99 wrote:
On a related note, anyone know the backstory on Jeff Emig not announcing? I saw his IG post and I guess it was implicit he was...

On a related note, anyone know the backstory on Jeff Emig not announcing? I saw his IG post and I guess it was implicit he was fired/cancelled from WSX announcing but it was unclear.  I really like Fro as an color commentator through his US SX years. 

Yes, he was let go as well as Ralph and Malin/Langston are now announcing. 

DonM wrote:

But yet they still used Ralph's voiceover on a segment...after firing him!

Noticed that as well but he got paid for the voiceovers as they were made when he was working for them. Maybe they will re-record with Malin to make the broadcast more cohesive. 

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They have more urgent problems.

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11/6/2023 8:45am
UpTiTe wrote:

Dude, the WSX was being put together long before the FIM was involved. 

aeffertz wrote:

That only makes things worse if it’s true. 

How’s that? 

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DonM wrote:
Bad decisions...thats kind of like saying nothing to see here...They should be getting better at their organization not worse...maybe it's time to admit that Adam Bailey...

Bad decisions...thats kind of like saying nothing to see here...They should be getting better at their organization not worse...maybe it's time to admit that Adam Bailey is the problem (every partner/investor he's had has run from him)...if the organizers of the Paris SX were running this do you think it would still be the same shit show? And are you just going to ignore what the riders opinions are? They are about to lose teams and riders for next year because of expectations vs reality....They all got into it for the money but if there aren't any races then nobody gets paid....There is no way that they can keep the current team and pay structure moving forward as a 3-5 race off season series...

How long can you pay the teams when you lose money every time you actually put a race together?

How can you expect making money when, according to Malin, you have 6500 persons in that arena in Abu Dhabi?

 

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...is dead and no one gives a crap.

...is dead and no one gives a crap.

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Pop Shmoke wrote:

If it was on this weekend you wouldnt watch? 

Nope. I would rather not dedicated every singe weekend to watching races. The offseason is appreciated by racers and fans.

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11/8/2023 12:20am Edited Date/Time 11/8/2023 12:23am
DonM wrote:
Bad decisions...thats kind of like saying nothing to see here...They should be getting better at their organization not worse...maybe it's time to admit that Adam Bailey...

Bad decisions...thats kind of like saying nothing to see here...They should be getting better at their organization not worse...maybe it's time to admit that Adam Bailey is the problem (every partner/investor he's had has run from him)...if the organizers of the Paris SX were running this do you think it would still be the same shit show? And are you just going to ignore what the riders opinions are? They are about to lose teams and riders for next year because of expectations vs reality....They all got into it for the money but if there aren't any races then nobody gets paid....There is no way that they can keep the current team and pay structure moving forward as a 3-5 race off season series...

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How long can you pay the teams when you lose money every time you actually put a race together? How can you expect making money when...

How long can you pay the teams when you lose money every time you actually put a race together?

How can you expect making money when, according to Malin, you have 6500 persons in that arena in Abu Dhabi?

 

Adam talked about this a bit on the podcast. He said part of the model is the same as mxgp, where they make deals with the governments of these countries to put on a show and the governments pay a lot of money. Kind of like Saudi Arabia with LIV golf, the govt is not getting into this to make money, its a way for them to try to clean up their image so they can start to attract tourists. These gulf countries are super rich with oil money, but not a lot of ppl wanted to visit because it didnt look fun to go to a super strict country. So theyre paying a lot of money to bring in people/events that will start to overtime make it seem like these are nice places to go on vacation.
 

The tourist industry is a many billion dollar industry that holds up entire economies. The events are one part of softening their image, but abu dhabi/dubai (both part of the same country the UAE) have been going on massive building sprees to create all kinds of resorts and tourist destinations on the gulf for people to go to and have a good time. Lots of the surrounding countries are investing massively in tourist destinations to try to bring in that money.
 

As an American some ppl may think why on earth would I want to visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar..etc for vacation, but theres an entire world out there. Theyre not only competing for American tourists, but European, Chinese, Indian. Indonesia is a muslim country with 273 million ppl. Malaysia is muslim as well. Youve got rich russian oligarchs they want to attract. They want other middle easterners to vacation there plus turks, balkan countries… etc. Paying to get races, concerts, events…etc to come to their countries helps them create that image in peoples heads that these would be fun places to visit, and they are. 

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World Arenacross not Supercross

What a joke

 

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
Adam talked about this a bit on the podcast. He said part of the model is the same as mxgp, where they make deals with the...

Adam talked about this a bit on the podcast. He said part of the model is the same as mxgp, where they make deals with the governments of these countries to put on a show and the governments pay a lot of money. Kind of like Saudi Arabia with LIV golf, the govt is not getting into this to make money, its a way for them to try to clean up their image so they can start to attract tourists. These gulf countries are super rich with oil money, but not a lot of ppl wanted to visit because it didnt look fun to go to a super strict country. So theyre paying a lot of money to bring in people/events that will start to overtime make it seem like these are nice places to go on vacation.
 

The tourist industry is a many billion dollar industry that holds up entire economies. The events are one part of softening their image, but abu dhabi/dubai (both part of the same country the UAE) have been going on massive building sprees to create all kinds of resorts and tourist destinations on the gulf for people to go to and have a good time. Lots of the surrounding countries are investing massively in tourist destinations to try to bring in that money.
 

As an American some ppl may think why on earth would I want to visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar..etc for vacation, but theres an entire world out there. Theyre not only competing for American tourists, but European, Chinese, Indian. Indonesia is a muslim country with 273 million ppl. Malaysia is muslim as well. Youve got rich russian oligarchs they want to attract. They want other middle easterners to vacation there plus turks, balkan countries… etc. Paying to get races, concerts, events…etc to come to their countries helps them create that image in peoples heads that these would be fun places to visit, and they are. 

The WSX Abu Dhabi round is alot like all the stuff Arab oil money buys, all glitz, glamor and hype, no soul and substance.

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Could you tell me where the glitz and glamour were?

 

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Could you tell me where the glitz and glamour were?

 

 
 
 
 

 

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