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Cross jumping is chicken shit .

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Magoofan wrote:
For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport. Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot...

For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport.

Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot on with his opening comments....

"I mean I I think if you put a bunch of money on the line like we have here and put us on an arena across track, I think that's that's the way it's going to go.    At  least for me this is how I make a living.  I'm not here to just ride around and have fun,  I'm here to here to make some money and pay my bills so that's that's what we're doing.  We're battling for for position and if these guys want to want to take it easy they can take it easy,  but I'm going to race hard."

I don't like or dislike Friese, on camera he comes across as unlikeable.  No idea what he's like outside of the limelight.   I do respect the heart, the drive and the brutal honesty.      Friese is the Honey badger, he don't give a shit.       

Rubbin in racing....    Got no issue with that unless someone purposefully tries to hurt someone.   

 

As to the penalty/off track thing being discussed (I did not see it)...it's not up to Vince to enforce the rules.   The officials let him keep 3rd.      This is another reason these races are a mockery. 

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during...

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during the 90s but definitely saw some bar banging which, like all the riders have mentioned, is perfectly acceptable. 

Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

Arguably one of the first things I ever learned on a race track was to hold your line and not cross jump but it’s interesting to hear other people’s perspectives on it. 

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Magoofan wrote:
For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport. Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot...

For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport.

Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot on with his opening comments....

"I mean I I think if you put a bunch of money on the line like we have here and put us on an arena across track, I think that's that's the way it's going to go.    At  least for me this is how I make a living.  I'm not here to just ride around and have fun,  I'm here to here to make some money and pay my bills so that's that's what we're doing.  We're battling for for position and if these guys want to want to take it easy they can take it easy,  but I'm going to race hard."

I don't like or dislike Friese, on camera he comes across as unlikeable.  No idea what he's like outside of the limelight.   I do respect the heart, the drive and the brutal honesty.      Friese is the Honey badger, he don't give a shit.       

Rubbin in racing....    Got no issue with that unless someone purposefully tries to hurt someone.   

 

As to the penalty/off track thing being discussed (I did not see it)...it's not up to Vince to enforce the rules.   The officials let him keep 3rd.      This is another reason these races are a mockery. 

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during...

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during the 90s but definitely saw some bar banging which, like all the riders have mentioned, is perfectly acceptable. 

Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

Nearly every rule book, race official, and racer disagrees with this but definitely don't let that challenge your convictions on this. Stay strong! 

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Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

But what is your boy toy Vince cross jumps your little lover Webb?

Will you still feel the same way?

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Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

While I appreciate the commitment, a line is crossed when any rider is intentionally riding in a (hazardous) manner just to keep a faster rider behind him. Doesn't really matter if it's the lead battle or for 9th. Owning the "best line", sure; making the other rider work for the pass, sure. Even a good block pass with light contact from the following rider is ok with me. Cross-jumping and brake checking aren't ok in my book. There's plenty of risk in this sport, and while the pros (most of them) have the skill and talent to pull some of these moves off, at lower levels it's just flat out dangerous.

I've seen a few instances of this at local races just in the last month, and it causes tempers to flare to the point of one rider being banned from racing for a month due to dangerous on-track riding (cross jumping). These young guys will see this crap on tv and then go to the track and repeat it.

You take my kid out by riding stupidly you can expect a visit from me in the pits. I've done that in the last year a couple times - not to initiate a fight, but to explain you get one pass from me for that, as I'll accept that you made a bad decision/ran out of talent. Once. Do it again and we will have a different conversation. One 17 YO kid wouldn't look me in the eye. He knew his move was horseshit. He hasn't done it again tho.

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11/6/2023 11:08am Edited Date/Time 11/6/2023 11:10am
Magoofan wrote:
For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport. Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot...

For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport.

Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot on with his opening comments....

"I mean I I think if you put a bunch of money on the line like we have here and put us on an arena across track, I think that's that's the way it's going to go.    At  least for me this is how I make a living.  I'm not here to just ride around and have fun,  I'm here to here to make some money and pay my bills so that's that's what we're doing.  We're battling for for position and if these guys want to want to take it easy they can take it easy,  but I'm going to race hard."

I don't like or dislike Friese, on camera he comes across as unlikeable.  No idea what he's like outside of the limelight.   I do respect the heart, the drive and the brutal honesty.      Friese is the Honey badger, he don't give a shit.       

Rubbin in racing....    Got no issue with that unless someone purposefully tries to hurt someone.   

 

As to the penalty/off track thing being discussed (I did not see it)...it's not up to Vince to enforce the rules.   The officials let him keep 3rd.      This is another reason these races are a mockery. 

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during...

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during the 90s but definitely saw some bar banging which, like all the riders have mentioned, is perfectly acceptable. 

Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

The biggest joke was Friese literally cut the track to improve his place/position and then spews total fucking bullshit.  He’s a fucking asshole.  He should have been DQd or at the very least a major penalty.  If you haven’t/aren’t going to watch it then you really can’t comment with any credibility.  As for his riding…guys that like WWF may like that shit.  Someone that wants to see good racing should hate it.  Spectacle/villain shit does not equal good racing….it equals lack of a legitimate sport/spectacle.

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I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for" and the "didn't learn anything foe next season".

Idk, maybe they learned how to race on a surface and track that they don't have experience with. 

I could see being mad and frustrated that so many rounds got canceled, they put off the outdoors and SMX for this, and that the track was small. Expecting the track halfway around the world to be like what you practiced on is pretty lame. These are the best racers in the world they should be able to ride whatever is thrown at them. 

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early wrote:
I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for"...

I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for" and the "didn't learn anything foe next season".

Idk, maybe they learned how to race on a surface and track that they don't have experience with. 

I could see being mad and frustrated that so many rounds got canceled, they put off the outdoors and SMX for this, and that the track was small. Expecting the track halfway around the world to be like what you practiced on is pretty lame. These are the best racers in the world they should be able to ride whatever is thrown at them. 

The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough working equipment to work on the track (they were down to one working skid steer)...the riders have every reason to complain as the track and facility weren't even up to AX standards...

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11/6/2023 11:33am
Magoofan wrote:
For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport. Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot...

For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport.

Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot on with his opening comments....

"I mean I I think if you put a bunch of money on the line like we have here and put us on an arena across track, I think that's that's the way it's going to go.    At  least for me this is how I make a living.  I'm not here to just ride around and have fun,  I'm here to here to make some money and pay my bills so that's that's what we're doing.  We're battling for for position and if these guys want to want to take it easy they can take it easy,  but I'm going to race hard."

I don't like or dislike Friese, on camera he comes across as unlikeable.  No idea what he's like outside of the limelight.   I do respect the heart, the drive and the brutal honesty.      Friese is the Honey badger, he don't give a shit.       

Rubbin in racing....    Got no issue with that unless someone purposefully tries to hurt someone.   

 

As to the penalty/off track thing being discussed (I did not see it)...it's not up to Vince to enforce the rules.   The officials let him keep 3rd.      This is another reason these races are a mockery. 

Watch the race and get off this weird point you're trying to prove.

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While I appreciate the commitment, a line is crossed when any rider is intentionally riding in a (hazardous) manner just to keep a faster rider behind...

While I appreciate the commitment, a line is crossed when any rider is intentionally riding in a (hazardous) manner just to keep a faster rider behind him. Doesn't really matter if it's the lead battle or for 9th. Owning the "best line", sure; making the other rider work for the pass, sure. Even a good block pass with light contact from the following rider is ok with me. Cross-jumping and brake checking aren't ok in my book. There's plenty of risk in this sport, and while the pros (most of them) have the skill and talent to pull some of these moves off, at lower levels it's just flat out dangerous.

I've seen a few instances of this at local races just in the last month, and it causes tempers to flare to the point of one rider being banned from racing for a month due to dangerous on-track riding (cross jumping). These young guys will see this crap on tv and then go to the track and repeat it.

You take my kid out by riding stupidly you can expect a visit from me in the pits. I've done that in the last year a couple times - not to initiate a fight, but to explain you get one pass from me for that, as I'll accept that you made a bad decision/ran out of talent. Once. Do it again and we will have a different conversation. One 17 YO kid wouldn't look me in the eye. He knew his move was horseshit. He hasn't done it again tho.

The last time Magoob's was on a race track bikes couldn't catch enough air to make cross jumping dangerous. 

You'll have to forgive him for not having any first hand experience to have a clue how dangerous it is.

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I watched a replay of the 3 mains, and in a word my overall thoughts are "rinky-dink".  

 

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Brayton didnt hold back on his thoughts of the track in his interview with Lewis. Any time Brayton speaks i think folks should be listening.

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Bailey knows what to do. Aus X was awesome and from I heard, the riders like it. The WSX was too much for him and like I said I think Tony Cochran (who is now gone from SX Global) had something to do with biting off too much. The UAE money was too much to turn down. They pay 5x what any other country would for events to show up. Unfortunately, it came at the expense of the quality of the event. 

 

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Brayton didnt hold back on his thoughts of the track in his interview with Lewis. Any time Brayton speaks i think folks should be listening.

 

Yes.  JB said it very clearly.  Very well said!!

 

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early wrote:
I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for"...

I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for" and the "didn't learn anything foe next season".

Idk, maybe they learned how to race on a surface and track that they don't have experience with. 

I could see being mad and frustrated that so many rounds got canceled, they put off the outdoors and SMX for this, and that the track was small. Expecting the track halfway around the world to be like what you practiced on is pretty lame. These are the best racers in the world they should be able to ride whatever is thrown at them. 

DonM wrote:
The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough...

The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough working equipment to work on the track (they were down to one working skid steer)...the riders have every reason to complain as the track and facility weren't even up to AX standards...

The riders signed up for the money, not the prestige. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or delusional. 

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11/6/2023 12:02pm Edited Date/Time 11/6/2023 2:03pm
Magoofan wrote:
For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport. Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot...

For the record, I did not/will not watch these races as they are a complete mockery of the sport.

Whatever people think of Friese...he is spot on with his opening comments....

"I mean I I think if you put a bunch of money on the line like we have here and put us on an arena across track, I think that's that's the way it's going to go.    At  least for me this is how I make a living.  I'm not here to just ride around and have fun,  I'm here to here to make some money and pay my bills so that's that's what we're doing.  We're battling for for position and if these guys want to want to take it easy they can take it easy,  but I'm going to race hard."

I don't like or dislike Friese, on camera he comes across as unlikeable.  No idea what he's like outside of the limelight.   I do respect the heart, the drive and the brutal honesty.      Friese is the Honey badger, he don't give a shit.       

Rubbin in racing....    Got no issue with that unless someone purposefully tries to hurt someone.   

 

As to the penalty/off track thing being discussed (I did not see it)...it's not up to Vince to enforce the rules.   The officials let him keep 3rd.      This is another reason these races are a mockery. 

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during...

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on cross jumping? I didn’t grow up in the 70s/80s. Was cross jumping common then? Didn’t see it during the 90s but definitely saw some bar banging which, like all the riders have mentioned, is perfectly acceptable. 

Magoofan wrote:
Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it) "Let me be perfectly...

Someone on here said it best years ago in regards to cross jumping.... (I remembered the post, had to search for it)

"Let me be perfectly clear for y'all. If you're in front, it's your fucking track. All of it. From tuff block to turf block. You can go whereever the fuck you want to go. Swerve side to side, stomp on the damn brakes, jump the jumps from where you want to, whatever you want. The guy behind is responsible to get past you, period."

I will only add this:  Got a problem with it....get a better start.    

There is no way that statement is referring to cross jumping. Wheels on the ground when the riders have control, absolutely the guy in front controls the track and contact is to be expected. But once you commit to a jump and leave the ground you have no brakes, no throttle, no steering, no control. If you've ever had someone drift over on you in the air you know it's a helpless and terrifying feeling. I've never heard any current or former racer defend cross jumping as legitimate racecraft.

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Brayton didnt hold back on his thoughts of the track in his interview with Lewis. Any time Brayton speaks i think folks should be listening.

Can't believe they didn't redflag that race, that was a bigger scandal than Friese.

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early wrote:
I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for"...

I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for" and the "didn't learn anything foe next season".

Idk, maybe they learned how to race on a surface and track that they don't have experience with. 

I could see being mad and frustrated that so many rounds got canceled, they put off the outdoors and SMX for this, and that the track was small. Expecting the track halfway around the world to be like what you practiced on is pretty lame. These are the best racers in the world they should be able to ride whatever is thrown at them. 

DonM wrote:
The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough...

The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough working equipment to work on the track (they were down to one working skid steer)...the riders have every reason to complain as the track and facility weren't even up to AX standards...

early wrote:

The riders signed up for the money, not the prestige. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or delusional. 

And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way more money…

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DonM wrote:
The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough...

The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough working equipment to work on the track (they were down to one working skid steer)...the riders have every reason to complain as the track and facility weren't even up to AX standards...

early wrote:

The riders signed up for the money, not the prestige. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or delusional. 

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And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way...

And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way more money…

They took the too good to be true deal, and guess what!

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Everybody was saying this looks sketchy after the 2 race series last year.

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DonM wrote:
And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way...

And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way more money…

who other than Rozcen was maybe going to race outdoors or SMX and maybe make "way" more money? 

SX Global has always been pretty generous with the appearance fees, don't see many lined up in the WSX gate with the potential to have done better elsewhere , except for 94?

 

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The biggest joke was Friese literally cut the track to improve his place/position and then spews total fucking bullshit.  He’s a fucking asshole.  He should have...

The biggest joke was Friese literally cut the track to improve his place/position and then spews total fucking bullshit.  He’s a fucking asshole.  He should have been DQd or at the very least a major penalty.  If you haven’t/aren’t going to watch it then you really can’t comment with any credibility.  As for his riding…guys that like WWF may like that shit.  Someone that wants to see good racing should hate it.  Spectacle/villain shit does not equal good racing….it equals lack of a legitimate sport/spectacle.

Maybe go back and read the post i made about it not being up to Vince to enforce the rules RE: him cutting the track and my other comments on him.

 

"Spectacle/Villain racing does not equal good racing".

I disagree....       Sometimes championships are won that way.

One of the greatest finales of all time....

 

 

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I prefer the Trey Canard/Ryan Villopoto one to be honest.

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Shred wrote:
The biggest joke was Friese literally cut the track to improve his place/position and then spews total fucking bullshit.  He’s a fucking asshole.  He should have...

The biggest joke was Friese literally cut the track to improve his place/position and then spews total fucking bullshit.  He’s a fucking asshole.  He should have been DQd or at the very least a major penalty.  If you haven’t/aren’t going to watch it then you really can’t comment with any credibility.  As for his riding…guys that like WWF may like that shit.  Someone that wants to see good racing should hate it.  Spectacle/villain shit does not equal good racing….it equals lack of a legitimate sport/spectacle.

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Maybe go back and read the post i made about it not being up to Vince to enforce the rules RE: him cutting the track and...

Maybe go back and read the post i made about it not being up to Vince to enforce the rules RE: him cutting the track and my other comments on him.

 

"Spectacle/Villain racing does not equal good racing".

I disagree....       Sometimes championships are won that way.

One of the greatest finales of all time....

 

 

A last lap pass/takeout for a title has zero similarity to what Friese does .

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The difference is Vince isn’t just cross jumping. He’s cross jumping with intention.
A good example of cross jumping gone wrong is Jett unintentionally cross jumping in front of Forkner at Arlington in 2022. He hit a tuff block and it sent him right, crashing into Forkner mid-air and they both went down. Doing that move on purpose is dangerous, period. Full stop. It is no coincidence that all the professional riders agree on this except Vince. 

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early wrote:
I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for"...

I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for" and the "didn't learn anything foe next season".

Idk, maybe they learned how to race on a surface and track that they don't have experience with. 

I could see being mad and frustrated that so many rounds got canceled, they put off the outdoors and SMX for this, and that the track was small. Expecting the track halfway around the world to be like what you practiced on is pretty lame. These are the best racers in the world they should be able to ride whatever is thrown at them. 

DonM wrote:
The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough...

The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough working equipment to work on the track (they were down to one working skid steer)...the riders have every reason to complain as the track and facility weren't even up to AX standards...

early wrote:

The riders signed up for the money, not the prestige. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or delusional. 

Be careful man.some say $$$ doesnt mean anything. 

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11/6/2023 1:44pm
DonM wrote:
And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way...

And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way more money…

ekozy39 wrote:
who other than Rozcen was maybe going to race outdoors or SMX and maybe make "way" more money?  SX Global has always been pretty generous with...

who other than Rozcen was maybe going to race outdoors or SMX and maybe make "way" more money? 

SX Global has always been pretty generous with the appearance fees, don't see many lined up in the WSX gate with the potential to have done better elsewhere , except for 94?

 

By the time the WSX races were canceled it was too late for many to put a program together that would allow them to race outdoors and qualify for SMX….and beside KR who exactly has WSX been generous to in paying appearance fees? Tomac for one race last year? The riders and teams did not get paid for the canceled rounds…

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11/6/2023 1:46pm
early wrote:
I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for"...

I listened to Lewis' post race interviews with the riders. I found it interesting how many were complaining that the track "wasn't what they practice for" and the "didn't learn anything foe next season".

Idk, maybe they learned how to race on a surface and track that they don't have experience with. 

I could see being mad and frustrated that so many rounds got canceled, they put off the outdoors and SMX for this, and that the track was small. Expecting the track halfway around the world to be like what you practiced on is pretty lame. These are the best racers in the world they should be able to ride whatever is thrown at them. 

DonM wrote:
The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough...

The track layout was a joke...A world championship has no business being in a facility that can't have even a decent size track...they should have enough working equipment to work on the track (they were down to one working skid steer)...the riders have every reason to complain as the track and facility weren't even up to AX standards...

early wrote:

The riders signed up for the money, not the prestige. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar or delusional. 

The money they don't get, because, there is no races...

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11/6/2023 1:48pm
DonM wrote:
And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way...

And there not getting paid what they were promised…many of them now regret racing WSX instead of outdoors and SMX where they would have made way more money…

ekozy39 wrote:
who other than Rozcen was maybe going to race outdoors or SMX and maybe make "way" more money?  SX Global has always been pretty generous with...

who other than Rozcen was maybe going to race outdoors or SMX and maybe make "way" more money? 

SX Global has always been pretty generous with the appearance fees, don't see many lined up in the WSX gate with the potential to have done better elsewhere , except for 94?

 

All of them? If they knew it was a 2 race season with WSX, my guess is pretty much all us riders would have done their season completely differently. 

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11/6/2023 1:51pm
aees wrote:
All of them? If they knew it was a 2 race season with WSX, my guess is pretty much all us riders would have done their...

All of them? If they knew it was a 2 race season with WSX, my guess is pretty much all us riders would have done their season completely differently. 

When you put it like that....it almost seems criminal what WSX has done...

 

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