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No you are right. Part of it is that flying around the world is neither easy, or cheap. It is not for everyone. EMX is another reason.
It kind of doesn't matter. Top 20 In MXGP is same as in AMA, decent quality. The rest is just gatefillers.
Yes. It's like when they use fill in riders in fly-away races. Looks like a clown show.
It is not a good look when the levels are that different.
If you had a 4-5 sec per lap all the way to 40th, fine.
Amen.
For some people not having money doesnt suck but for most I believe it does suck if they dont have money.
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Yeah this is true 100% but I think reality has gotten more real for people as time goes on.
Your over thinking it. It’s the premier motocross series because it’s where the greatest depth of talent ride.
You're moving the goal posts to keep your argument going....you are constantly bashing "privateers" and using that as a way to discredit the US Series when in reality the US Series has WAY MORE support from the manufacturers.
The folks who actually make the dirt bikes and depend on selling them care more about the United States series because it's the premier series in the world. Period.
The best in MXGP have been scrambling for years to get here to the premier series, that's why the defending World Champ is testing in the US hoping to get a ride here as we speak.
Honestly, for Motocross related things, I wish I lived in the USA. The sport is taking big hits here in Europe. In Belgium we used to have 105 tracks and now we only have 4. Only 2 worth riding on in my opinion. I am scared that other countries in Europe will follow. Also tracks in the USA are usually maintained very well and I love hardpack tracks which USA offers more. In The Netherlands and Germany etc you will find them too but there are more deep sand tracks. To me, it seems that the USA is the mecca of off road racing.
On a side note talking about after market service; I tried different graphics companies here in Europe for my bike and the service was awful. A few days ago, I had contact with Throttle Syndicate and they have been very professional and helped me way faster and more correct than all the ones I tried here. I just always had good experiences with American people.
Ofcourse, each country has its pro's and con's. But when it comes to MX, USA is just perfect. The Coenen brothers who are riding MX2 also dream of going to the USA as it's a lot more alive there.
I’m not bashing privateers (sounds abit wrong that btw) I just point out US nats is a predominately privateers series.
US is all about sx, wasn’t there like 4 factory riders in 450 nats this season ?
Ask prado.
It's called injuries homie.
Well in reality there are more factory 250/450 riders in the US....just because it is open to privateers doesn't make it a privateer series.....your argument is getting stale and you are just looking like another British troll that is anti-America....
Going to your closest pro nat and making the fast 40 isnt “gate filling”
you just don’t get it
Have you ever been to Europe Spoon?
Overall European pro motocross riders are better than American pro motocross riders, because they train year round on shit tracks that would blow your mind how with how difficult they are.
AND they only train for Moto, they don't have to split their season for supercross training.
Jett and Hunter trained a bit in that hell hole torture track Lommel, that place has to be one of the hardest tracks in the world to go fast on. Maybe that is why they are so good, because the USA tracks are easier and wider.
I tried riding Lommel once and I hate that place, riding there is like getting punched in the nuts every lap.
American Pros are superior in Supercross however, so it balances out.
You missed the point if you think it’s about optics for me. It’s all about opportunity for me. It’s the best sport in the world because you can come compete. Also, we had several true privateers and many semi-privateers make around 100k this year. Several of those only racing outdoors and smx.
It was always a really big deal at Southwick.
It doesn't suck not having money? So some people are cool with not being able to afford medicine for a sick child, to fix a leaking roof, to replace worn out shoes, or buy decent groceries, on and on? You are joking, right?
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yes Im joking. It sucks to not be able to afford healthcare, it sucks not being able service your vehicle or replace broken/worn out things on it, it sucks when your bike blows up and you dont have the money to rebuild it, it sucks when you live in a state that people can barely afford housing and may not even know what they are gonna do next when their lease is up because everywhere is so expensive, it sucks to eat canned foods on the regular because groceries are so expensive, it sucks having to cancel doctor’s appointments you need because co pays are to much for some, it sucks not being able to drive somewhere because gas is so expensive and it sucks for some struggling to get a job with areas of poor employment.
I am very aware how much it sucks for people to not have money so I will say it again that I am very much NOT joking.
This may be the case on tv but in person its not the case at all. As someone whos local to southwick those further back positions are where we get to root for our local guys fighting thru the pack. This is the case at every track, you get different locals showing up that ppl are rooting for in those positions. Thats such a cool part of this sport that you see almost nowhere else. Then on top of that lately you have the 2 stroke guys that are in the back of the pack that ppl are rooting for as well. If there was only 10 guys thered be a long time of sitting around looking at nothing while those 10 riders are at the other end of the track.
Also getting through lappers adds another challenge and variable to the race. This is the hardest most gnarliest sport in the world, having to fight through human obstacles in order to win makes it even more so. It makes the first turn absolutely exciting having 40 guys and then if you crash you have to go through 40 guys to get back towards the front. It helps to hang up the leader who comes up on them first and then 2nd and 3rd usually get by a little easier. This helps keep them a little closer together. You also have some guys like Chase who suck at getting through lappers vs Jett who cuts through them like butter and it adds a whole other dynamic. Definitely the racing is better with lappers than without.
Do you not think that this year Ken has taken enough time off to give his battered body time to rest & heal?
Yes I do, I also think he is in a perfect position for success in 2024. He got a win and multiple podiums in SX, he cleaned swept in WSX going 1-1, he came off the couch and brought the fight to Jett at the 1 national he attended, and then finished 2nd in SMX. Finished first overall at the MXoN MX-GP class. Oh, and him and his wife had a beautiful child to add to their family. If it wasn't for Jett, I would say Kenny had the perfect season!
Personally I think 40 on the gate isn't good if 20 of them are so out of touch,it's only good for start line optics but along with adding needless carnage to the first turn it's extremely problematic with loppers,there's virtually zero interest with those 20 odd after the first turn,unless they should be within so many seconds of say the average laptomes of the top 5 combuned
The TV certainly isn't either,in fact they often spend far too much time focusing on the leader pounding lap after lap alone out front when many of us can often see a number of multiple rider battles going on further down the field completely ignored
I have a european guy and his mechanic on an airplane, as we speak, to live the american motocross dream.
Where is he going to be based? MidWest where you are?
Whenever I see greed in sport in Europe I automatically think of Italians 🤷
Easy on that
By the way guys in Gp series are talking lately, it sounds like the US is already incorporating a feeder series… the GP series.
If I was a young fast guy in Europe I would 100% be charting a career path that gets me to the US. Kids that are teenagers are young enough that they still have plenty of time to learn SX and be competitive. Even riders in their early 20s can do it.
If I was an older/established fast guy I can definitely understand why some choose to stay.
Yep, here in KC for a few days then headed south to Albertsons in Oklahoma where JMT and Marek are residing for the duration of their campaign.
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