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And still lost, we would be getting absolutely thrashed
Nice ride by France
Good point
FACTS lol
I don’t like the if’s and but’s but had Jett not gone down in the first moto, he would probably have done the same thing as in the last moto.
And a Hunter with a bad back on that track with limited passing options were never gonna be the same thing as if the race has been held at a more passing friendly track. We all know how he struggles with starts.
but it becomes clear that the riders that have a ex GP/european experience shine on a day like this. I saw someone trying to say that the AMA guys is the fastest riders in the world, but those ”ama guys” were all gp/emx riders at one time and they put their skills to use today.
They were 20 points behind.
If Jett wins moto 1 that's 5 less points for them. Still 15 behind. Hunter went 10-5 which are pretty respectable results. Let's say he has one of his best days ever and goes 3-3 in his motos. Well, they're still over 5 points behind.
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The Aussies didn’t lose, France won.
Loser Logic that no one would be saying if it was USA
The fuck you talking about? France absolutely decimated the entire field.
Meanwhile the 2 racers you are making fun of raced your series all year both SX and MX and thrashed all Americans and now you think it is funny they came 2nd! Johnny Ringo is a Floppa 🙈
Thank you for proving my point
No what he’s saying is that if USA sent that strong of a team and didn’t win any foreign fan would be thrashing the “yanks” for not winning. So its kinda a cop out saying Australia didn’t lose France won
I think (unless I'm reading it wrong) what the OP is saying is that other teams get a pass from fans for under performing or "losing", whereas team USA doesn't, and are instead mercilessly thrashed. Edit: As above.
The reason for that is history.
If the Aussies had won last yr, and then subsequently many of their fans (and even some Aus MX media outlets) had then spent the next year rubbing everyone's nose in shit, saying that the AU National series is in fact the best series: has the better riders than both GP and AMA, is the true World Championship, that Prado is a big fish in a small pond, that Sexton is 2nd rate in a 2nd rate National series etc - then absolutely people would thrash the Australians over 'losing' a year later to France (or indeed anyone).
That's how it once was in regard to Team USA back in the mid to late 00's on social media when MX forums like this were just insufferable, as were certain journalists and publications like MXA. No where near as bad now but there's probably still a bit of residual memory, axe to grind, with some of the more antagonistic fans on the GP side (who themselves now won't let it go...) determined to stick the fork on every occasion America slips up in their eyes. And a few vice versa on the American side.
I think the vast majority of fans just want to see the best race and fully understand that this years team USA was made up of guys who, by their own admission, aren't the best possible options in an ideal scenario but that they themselves just really, genuinely, felt someone should go and represent their country. So they tried.
Your mistake is assuming that having both ama champs on your team , makes you the automatic favourite at the MXON .
Then why was the team with current AMA Champs considered the favorite?
"Mistake", lmao.
Many people, myself included, were not of the opinion that Australia were favourites. Our third rider was always going to be an issue. You need three strong riders to be capable of winning MXoN and Australia was borderline in that regard.
France on the other hand have fantastic depth at the moment. They could have feasibly substituted Ferrandis for either of their 450 guys and got the same result.
Add in home track advantage and they were always going to be tough to beat.
I had them considered as favorites, as did many others (like the media). Its easy to say after the event is over that they weren't considered favorites along with France.
Well it’s easy for me because I said it a few times that our third rider would be the weak link for us.
Clearly a lot of people were just looking at the Lawrences and proclaiming us one of the favourites without looking closely at our third rider.
Team Aus had there best result ever ...job done...
Just so I'm clear...you want Australian forum members to pile shit on team Australia for finishing seconds based on the logic in your thread title?
Okay I'll oblige.
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE !!!!!
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The US will always get an extra load of crap every year regardless of how the team performs. It comes with the expectation and is almost tradition at this point.
AU were not considered the favorites. Podium for sure. The French were always favorites for depth of talent, track expertise and location.
Hunter injured himself recently and was racing while still injured. His injury was enough to skip a $500k race. He did his country proud with his results. He exceeded my expectations in racing injured... i thought for sure he would be incapable of a ride that put us on the podium.
Ferris did his country proud too. We could only field 2x high quality riders and our third guy was never going to be good enough to let us win it. Kind of an absurd expectation.
Jett the only rider you could argue should have done better. But I'm still proud of his effort to have fought all the way back to 6th place after crashing early and ofcourse winning a moto.
This was our best ever result and i dont expect we will ever win it. Because we will likely never have 3x top riders. But there's absolutely nothing to be disappointed in as far as I am concerned. I think our team did us proud.
and yet america with one of the largest populations, full of training facilities, kids with factory rides before they grow hairs on their chest and still couldn't find 3 riders to send to make a podium...
proud aussie to have held our own in AMA and now Mxon with these brothers
I caught a load of shit in multiple threads for saying France was the clear favorite.
Nobody has thrashed us cause we haven't won it 23 times, been consistently clear favourites, sooked like babies on the podium when we didn't win it, have a fan base that has SOME of the most ungrateful ignorant fools that take every opportunity to remind whoever will listen that they've won it 23 times and are consistently clear favourites every year because they're the greatest racing nation and it's not even close unless they lose then it's just cause of SX and they don't really care cause it's just an exhibition race and no one gets paid!
But it's mainly cause we rule and everyone loves us
…but Jett did go down…on his own. Nobody took him out. If wishes were fishes….. still a good day for the Aussies. Nobody was going to beat the French but the French.
Bit of a piss-take, mate. Never having won the MXDN before a second is our best ever finish and a great result regardless. You won’t find many Aussie’s who were coming into the event thinking we would take the overall, we’re all chuffed with second. Hats off to France, too much depth, too much speed.
Well if population matters so much it’s amazing China and India haven’t been wiping the floor with every one
If Australia had to send their E team because no one wants to travel out of their comfort zone and subsequently finished 31 points behind an "embarrassing" result...
Well golly, I don't what I'd say. I've never been in that position.
Which media? Seemed like everyone was picking France to win. Am I remembering wrong?
Exactly.
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