Rutted Corners - HELP - I SUCK.....

ElliotB16
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10/3/2023 12:34am
early wrote:

More roll speed, less braking into the rut. Think about riding the rut entry and mid-corner, not getting on the gas.

This ^^
 

Keep your momentum up and use the rut to bank off of and sling shot around rather than fighting trying to get thru it. 
 

Practice no clutch and no front brake motos, (the bike will be much more easier to handle), keep your roll speed up and your cornering will feel much easier. 

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Richy
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10/3/2023 2:51am

Tips and advice are definitely good, learning the theory/mechanics of something is always a benefit.

That said, it is also pretty easy to overthink and it is super easy to forget everything as soon as you're staring down some beefcake rut.

I still suck, almost certainly worse than you, but being mindful and remembering a couple of these key principles said by other people along with remembering to breathe and stay loose helps me.

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10/3/2023 5:08am

For me looking too close to the front wheel is a problem and not using enough gas once in the rut is also a problem. Accelerating while in the rut seems to keep the bike out of trouble for me. It doesn't have to be a full throttle accel just make sure you are increasing speed through the rut. As you get better you should find you can accelerate really hard once in the rut.

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10/3/2023 5:18am
need2ride wrote:
Get a Suzuki 

Get a Suzuki Grinning

Bruce372 wrote:

Beat me to it

That's what I have now (RMZ-250).

Doesn't matter.  I bad rider on a good bike results in SUCK..........

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10/3/2023 6:35am

A big thing for me was getting on the throttle too early will stand the bike up and stuff up the corner. You have to come in faster than you think so that way you have more roll speed and don't get on the throttle until the exit of the rut (2nd half/ last third of rut).

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Zerofear66
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10/3/2023 9:27am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2023 9:28am
early wrote:

More roll speed, less braking into the rut. Think about riding the rut entry and mid-corner, not getting on the gas.

Dubach talks about this a lot in his videos.

I'm horrible in ruts but his videos have helped me from throwing my garage queen into the dirt evertime I enter a rut.

 

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10/3/2023 9:50am

I posted before but I forgot some of the most important things. Be in a gear that will pull you all the way through the rut, look where you want to go not at the rut, keep your head inline with the triple clamps and weight the out side peg while pushing against the tank with your knee. 

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10/3/2023 11:01am
Mit12 wrote:
I posted before but I forgot some of the most important things. Be in a gear that will pull you all the way through the rut...

I posted before but I forgot some of the most important things. Be in a gear that will pull you all the way through the rut, look where you want to go not at the rut, keep your head inline with the triple clamps and weight the out side peg while pushing against the tank with your knee. 

That sounds like the best advice I've heard so far.

Now I just have to work on it and break the bad habits which is difficult to do.

I've heard about that "knee" technique before.  It's difficult for me practice while in the rutt, too much going on.

I'm thinking I can work on that "knee technique" off the track somewhere - just in some field or whatever while doing turns (especially right turns) and leaning the bike.  Once I get that technique  down, then I can start trying it in the rutts.

 

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10/3/2023 5:30pm
chevywaldo wrote:
That sounds like the best advice I've heard so far. Now I just have to work on it and break the bad habits which is difficult...

That sounds like the best advice I've heard so far.

Now I just have to work on it and break the bad habits which is difficult to do.

I've heard about that "knee" technique before.  It's difficult for me practice while in the rutt, too much going on.

I'm thinking I can work on that "knee technique" off the track somewhere - just in some field or whatever while doing turns (especially right turns) and leaning the bike.  Once I get that technique  down, then I can start trying it in the rutts.

 

That advice is for every corner on the track. I suggest working on each part independently until it becomes natural and add another part. In my opinion being in the correct gear that will carry you through the turn under power is the most important one. Nothing will mess you up more than loosing forward drive in a corner let alone one with a long rut. 

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10/3/2023 7:42pm

Some general tips: Look ahead, stand longer through the corner, roll throttle on and drag front brake, sit in-line with bike, finish braking before the entering the rut, 

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10/4/2023 8:55am

There all different but don’t ovr think it.  Spot the rut you’re going to use. Come in standing around the apex sit stay loose & rail . Don’t ever look at the rut only the exit.  If you stand all the way through your body position can get off from the g forces. In a left turn your butt can get off to the rt pulling the front wheel out & into the inside . If that happens just keep it pinned. Easiest corner is a rutted corner.  At least I think so.  Highest g forces you can get on the track. 

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10/4/2023 9:13am
Some general tips: Look ahead, stand longer through the corner, roll throttle on and drag front brake, sit in-line with bike, finish braking before the entering...

Some general tips: Look ahead, stand longer through the corner, roll throttle on and drag front brake, sit in-line with bike, finish braking before the entering the rut, 

All of this has been extremely helpful to me. Especially dragging the front brake on the tight inside ruts 

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10/4/2023 9:37am
Some general tips: Look ahead, stand longer through the corner, roll throttle on and drag front brake, sit in-line with bike, finish braking before the entering...

Some general tips: Look ahead, stand longer through the corner, roll throttle on and drag front brake, sit in-line with bike, finish braking before the entering the rut, 

All of this has been extremely helpful to me. Especially dragging the front brake on the tight inside ruts 

Drag the front & rear brake on no rut slick off cambers. Front brake in a rut hitting a square hole will make the forks dive then push the rear wheel out.  

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10/4/2023 11:13am
Some general tips: Look ahead, stand longer through the corner, roll throttle on and drag front brake, sit in-line with bike, finish braking before the entering...

Some general tips: Look ahead, stand longer through the corner, roll throttle on and drag front brake, sit in-line with bike, finish braking before the entering the rut, 

All of this has been extremely helpful to me. Especially dragging the front brake on the tight inside ruts 

Drag the front & rear brake on no rut slick off cambers. Front brake in a rut hitting a square hole will make the forks dive...

Drag the front & rear brake on no rut slick off cambers. Front brake in a rut hitting a square hole will make the forks dive then push the rear wheel out.  

I try to brake before the corner, slightly hit the gas right as I sit, and drag the front brake. If I need to slow down I don’t let off the gas, I just drag the brake slightly harder. I believe this keeps both ends of the bike loaded and really seems to help me. I’m about as far from an expert at ruts as you can get and just recently starting getting better at them, but that’s what’s working for me 

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10/4/2023 11:23am

if your rebound is slow try opening it up a couple clicks. it will help the bike stay a little higher in the stroke in the deep corner ruts.

10/4/2023 6:07pm

Dragging the front brake a little definitely helped me out with getting through rutted corners. Freestone would have some of the longest ruts in the back section before coming back towards the finish line. Ruts will kick your ass when you’re tired with a little arm pump 

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