MXGP Rumours/Silly season

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9/19/2023 2:48pm
JOLS95 wrote:
Just listened to the Mx vice show with Isak gifting, sounds like he will go outside of Europe. He mention that to a local Swedish newspaper...

Just listened to the Mx vice show with Isak gifting, sounds like he will go outside of Europe. He mention that to a local Swedish newspaper earlier this summer too. USA? Looks like it.

He might be coming to Canada.

9/19/2023 3:18pm

I would bet that he'll be on a German KTM team doing the ADAC and some/all GPs.

Anonymous wrote:

@LewisPhillips ? on Mitch Evans injury status. He has been riding the past two seasons with several issues ? 

Yeah, the wrist that he broke as a HRC rider in 2020 was very serious. There were many complications and still are.

Any recent news on  Mitchell Evans this month?

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9/20/2023 7:36am

Personally I hope that MJC signs Levi Townley.

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MXMattii wrote:

Personally I hope that MJC signs Levi Townley.

They have signed a big name from the past.....

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9/20/2023 11:04am
MXMattii wrote:

Personally I hope that MJC signs Levi Townley.

Why?

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9/20/2023 11:09am
JOLS95 wrote:
Just listened to the Mx vice show with Isak gifting, sounds like he will go outside of Europe. He mention that to a local Swedish newspaper...

Just listened to the Mx vice show with Isak gifting, sounds like he will go outside of Europe. He mention that to a local Swedish newspaper earlier this summer too. USA? Looks like it.

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He might be coming to Canada.

He missed the boat a bit in MX2, was team mates with Langenfelder, but injury, and losing his ride when a team folded have cost him bad. 

He had a few good GP's , led a while in Turkey but there are too many younger guys taking seats now. 

He races here in the UK, but the level isnt great here in MX2 really. 

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MXMattii wrote:

Personally I hope that MJC signs Levi Townley.

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Why?

Why not, he's still pretty young and has the skills. Together with Jarne Bervoets and probably a third rider it could make a strong line-up for now and maybe more important for the future.

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9/20/2023 8:42pm

Any recent news on  Mitchell Evans this month?

I'd guess CDR 

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9/21/2023 3:49am
JOLS95 wrote:
Just listened to the Mx vice show with Isak gifting, sounds like he will go outside of Europe. He mention that to a local Swedish newspaper...

Just listened to the Mx vice show with Isak gifting, sounds like he will go outside of Europe. He mention that to a local Swedish newspaper earlier this summer too. USA? Looks like it.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

He might be coming to Canada.

philG wrote:
He missed the boat a bit in MX2, was team mates with Langenfelder, but injury, and losing his ride when a team folded have cost him...

He missed the boat a bit in MX2, was team mates with Langenfelder, but injury, and losing his ride when a team folded have cost him bad. 

He had a few good GP's , led a while in Turkey but there are too many younger guys taking seats now. 

He races here in the UK, but the level isnt great here in MX2 really. 

It says a lot about the depth in MX2 in terms of financial strength of the teams that a guy who finishes 7th & 8th both in the sand of Lommel & Kegums as on the hard terrain in Germany & Sweden cannot get a good ride. 

And unless Hutten/Yamaha, Bud, Fantic, BT, VRT, etc step up with their EMX250 programms i don't see a way how this level will improve in the next couple of years.

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9/21/2023 6:07am

Paturel will stay with De Baets Yamaha

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9/21/2023 11:02am Edited Date/Time 9/21/2023 11:17am
DeStouwer wrote:

Ofcourse there are. Jørgensen, Alberto, Outeiro, Conijn, Mandys, Smith,.. all raced a private Yamaha this season.

rym wrote:
The 250 i mean. Most you mention are 450 riders and Smith is supported by Yamaha Scandinavia. Only one i don't know why he rides Yamaha...

The 250 i mean. Most you mention are 450 riders and Smith is supported by Yamaha Scandinavia. Only one i don't know why he rides Yamaha is Mandys

Even in the national championships you will have a hard time finding a yamaha 250F in the top 10.

 

Mikula won a Czech championship round on a stock 250cc and Reisulis won Latvian championship round on a stock 250cc

Well... actually Mikula won Moto1 of czech nationals in Stříbro but got shitty start and washed front in corner mid moto2 but still finished 4th. P.S. Marek won the round with 2-2 on 250 2smoke KTM. But the track was a bit single line-ish.

There is video from that round (starts at 3:55)

 

If Mikula is still under contract with Yamaha even for 2024 that would be lovely jubbly... Looking at you Hutten Metaal racing team. Laughing

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9/21/2023 11:06am

Marc Antoine Rossi will ride MX2 World Championship for team De Carli Gas Gas in 2024.

For me he was the biggest surprize this year after coming from EMX125 to EMX250.

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9/21/2023 2:43pm
rym wrote:
The 250 i mean. Most you mention are 450 riders and Smith is supported by Yamaha Scandinavia. Only one i don't know why he rides Yamaha...

The 250 i mean. Most you mention are 450 riders and Smith is supported by Yamaha Scandinavia. Only one i don't know why he rides Yamaha is Mandys

Even in the national championships you will have a hard time finding a yamaha 250F in the top 10.

 

Mikula won a Czech championship round on a stock 250cc and Reisulis won Latvian championship round on a stock 250cc

Well... actually Mikula won Moto1 of czech nationals in Stříbro but got shitty start and washed front in corner mid moto2 but still finished 4th. P.S...

Well... actually Mikula won Moto1 of czech nationals in Stříbro but got shitty start and washed front in corner mid moto2 but still finished 4th. P.S. Marek won the round with 2-2 on 250 2smoke KTM. But the track was a bit single line-ish.

There is video from that round (starts at 3:55)

 

If Mikula is still under contract with Yamaha even for 2024 that would be lovely jubbly... Looking at you Hutten Metaal racing team. Laughing

I wouldn’t bet on it

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9/21/2023 3:33pm

I heard Prado is coming to the US for '24 Supercross/ Motocross after his MXGP championship. Any traction on that yet? He said he wants to race supercross.

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9/21/2023 6:21pm
rym wrote:

Yeah any info on Bruce and Rizzi? Will they just do British MX or back to GPs?

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Rizzi apparently signed a deal with a British team and I hear strong rumours Riley Racing works on a comeback. Anyone have an idea if we...

Rizzi apparently signed a deal with a British team and I hear strong rumours Riley Racing works on a comeback. Anyone have an idea if we will see Frederiksen back? He lined up in a local race in The Netherlands last weekend.

As of right now, Fredriksen has nothing. He has his Yamahas from the Riley team this year, but is searching for a ride in 24. I’ve heard Riley is trying to come back, but I can’t see anyone wanting to ride there after this year.

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9/21/2023 8:50pm
Rosso391 wrote:
I heard Prado is coming to the US for '24 Supercross/ Motocross after his MXGP championship. Any traction on that yet? He said he wants to...

I heard Prado is coming to the US for '24 Supercross/ Motocross after his MXGP championship. Any traction on that yet? He said he wants to race supercross.

No, he has a one-year extension to stay with DeCarli in GPs.

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Rosso391 wrote:
I heard Prado is coming to the US for '24 Supercross/ Motocross after his MXGP championship. Any traction on that yet? He said he wants to...

I heard Prado is coming to the US for '24 Supercross/ Motocross after his MXGP championship. Any traction on that yet? He said he wants to race supercross.

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No, he has a one-year extension to stay with DeCarli in GPs.

"Prado: At the moment my goal is to stay in MXGP. I have been working hard all of these years to get this title. I also said with my team one of my goals is to ride with the number one. And to ride with the number one I need to stay in MXGP. So, it is something that for the next year or so my goal is to ride MXGP. I still see in myself a big marking to improve. And that is something very positive because I can be already World Champion and I feel I can improve in many ways, speed wise. I am only 22 so imagine in a few years. I am just super motivated to keep on working and put myself every year at a higher level. Yeah, America can be an option too but for that I need to try again and see if I like it, or if I like it enough to go 100%. So, I think before I make a decision I need to go and give it a try, and then I can have a clear vision of what I want to do. But at the moment MXGP is my priority."

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ajv#26 wrote:
"Prado: At the moment my goal is to stay in MXGP. I have been working hard all of these years to get this title. I also...

"Prado: At the moment my goal is to stay in MXGP. I have been working hard all of these years to get this title. I also said with my team one of my goals is to ride with the number one. And to ride with the number one I need to stay in MXGP. So, it is something that for the next year or so my goal is to ride MXGP. I still see in myself a big marking to improve. And that is something very positive because I can be already World Champion and I feel I can improve in many ways, speed wise. I am only 22 so imagine in a few years. I am just super motivated to keep on working and put myself every year at a higher level. Yeah, America can be an option too but for that I need to try again and see if I like it, or if I like it enough to go 100%. So, I think before I make a decision I need to go and give it a try, and then I can have a clear vision of what I want to do. But at the moment MXGP is my priority."

I think that he is going to américa after the season ends and try again some supercross to choose USA or MXGP.

Knowing that KTM group anounces his Riders fast and his deal isnt anounces yet... but thats only my opinion

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9/22/2023 9:45am

Gajser was only 20 if I remember right😁

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The problem is that MXGP Champions can't drop to the SX lites/250cc class. And learning SX on a 450cc bike seems even for guys like Prado and Gajser hard.

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9/23/2023 9:06am Edited Date/Time 9/23/2023 9:08am

Vlaanderen has just announced that the British GP is his last race with his current team. No mention as to who he has signed with for 24.

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Vlaanderen has just announced that the British GP is his last race with his current team. No mention as to who he has signed with for...

Vlaanderen has just announced that the British GP is his last race with his current team. No mention as to who he has signed with for 24.

Kemea Yamaha

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9/24/2023 11:10pm
Boomslang wrote:
Vlaanderen has just announced that the British GP is his last race with his current team. No mention as to who he has signed with for...

Vlaanderen has just announced that the British GP is his last race with his current team. No mention as to who he has signed with for 24.

Kemea Yamaha

Kemea Yamaha? Never heard of that team.

How would you compare their bikes to the Gebben bikes? Is this a improvement or a step backwards for Calvin? 

 

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9/24/2023 11:21pm
Boomslang wrote:
Kemea Yamaha? Never heard of that team. How would you compare their bikes to the Gebben bikes? Is this a improvement or a step backwards for...

Kemea Yamaha? Never heard of that team.

How would you compare their bikes to the Gebben bikes? Is this a improvement or a step backwards for Calvin? 

 

Kemea have been in the paddock for a long time. 

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9/24/2023 11:21pm Edited Date/Time 9/24/2023 11:25pm
Boomslang wrote:
Kemea Yamaha? Never heard of that team. How would you compare their bikes to the Gebben bikes? Is this a improvement or a step backwards for...

Kemea Yamaha? Never heard of that team.

How would you compare their bikes to the Gebben bikes? Is this a improvement or a step backwards for Calvin? 

 

Kemea run the MX2 team at the moment, and a few comments in here point to them taking over the MXGP set up next year. So full factory bikes. 

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9/24/2023 11:26pm
Boomslang wrote:
Kemea Yamaha? Never heard of that team. How would you compare their bikes to the Gebben bikes? Is this a improvement or a step backwards for...

Kemea Yamaha? Never heard of that team.

How would you compare their bikes to the Gebben bikes? Is this a improvement or a step backwards for Calvin? 

 

gardon372 wrote:
Kemea run the MX2 team at the moment, and a few comments in here point to them taking over the MXGP set up next year. So...

Kemea run the MX2 team at the moment, and a few comments in here point to them taking over the MXGP set up next year. So full factory bikes. 

Thanks, I have been hitting Google up and saw that it was currently 250 only.

Happy for Calvin if the team is a full factory effort.

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I am not sure i understand what Yamaha is doing.

* They weaken their teams in EMX250 and MX2 (Hutten is not an improvement over kemea, and whoever is going to do emx250 isnt an improvement over Hutten)

* I don't think Kemea is an improvement over Wilvo in MXGP

* They lose Seewer & Coldenhoff and replace them with Vlaanderen (nice for Calvin & deserved, but he is not an upgrade). Obviously Geerts will move up, but its unrealistic to expect miracles from him & Yamaha loses a title contender in mx2

* They seem to have lost Gebben in the process

To me it just looks like a lot of moves & ending a bunch of relationships and at the end Yamaha is at best an outsider for a world title in '24?? 

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9/26/2023 5:40am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 5:44am
rym wrote:
I am not sure i understand what Yamaha is doing. * They weaken their teams in EMX250 and MX2 (Hutten is not an improvement over kemea...

I am not sure i understand what Yamaha is doing.

* They weaken their teams in EMX250 and MX2 (Hutten is not an improvement over kemea, and whoever is going to do emx250 isnt an improvement over Hutten)

* I don't think Kemea is an improvement over Wilvo in MXGP

* They lose Seewer & Coldenhoff and replace them with Vlaanderen (nice for Calvin & deserved, but he is not an upgrade). Obviously Geerts will move up, but its unrealistic to expect miracles from him & Yamaha loses a title contender in mx2

* They seem to have lost Gebben in the process

To me it just looks like a lot of moves & ending a bunch of relationships and at the end Yamaha is at best an outsider for a world title in '24?? 

A lot of assumptions here.

Kemea wasn't considered an improvement when they became the official MX2 factory team, and look at them now. If they will do better or not as Wilvo will become clear in the future, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt until then. Geerts and Renaux both know "House Kemea" very well and Vlaanderen seems to fit in any team as he's a very professional guy.

Hutten have earned their glory in the past seasons aswell. First as a Yamaha-supported team, later as the official EMX250-team (just like Kemea did a few years before them).

Seewer has been the #1 rider at Yamaha for quite a few years now, and never made it happen. He will be #2 at Kawasaki next year, so maybe a little less pressure will suit him more. But I highly doubt he will ever "make it happen". It's known Yamaha FUBAR'ed last season, so maybe Seewer didn't even wanted to stay.

Losing Gebben is a shame, but I'm actually surprised that a local dealer lasted so long with a fulltime MXGP-team over all those years. Teams with way more resources as Gebben all came and went the past decade (i.e. Suzuki or Aprilia for example), so props to them. Maybe they can become the EMX250-team as Hutten will move up a class?

As for your statement: "they weaken their teams"... Dunno man, but succession is a part of MX. Or any sport for that matter. Seewer decided to leave and Coldenhoff's best days have most probably passed. At first it seemed KTM "weakened" their MX2-team by losing Vialle and Hofer (compulsory) and replaced them with Adamo and Everts. We all know how that turned out for them.

Geerts moves to MXGP, Benistant stays in MX2 and Bonacorsi joins him. As far as I'm concerned, that's the best replacement they could do.

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9/26/2023 10:31am

Guillod and Horgmo confirmed at Honda SR Motoblouz for 2024.

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A lot of assumptions here. Kemea wasn't considered an improvement when they became the official MX2 factory team, and look at them now. If they will...

A lot of assumptions here.

Kemea wasn't considered an improvement when they became the official MX2 factory team, and look at them now. If they will do better or not as Wilvo will become clear in the future, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt until then. Geerts and Renaux both know "House Kemea" very well and Vlaanderen seems to fit in any team as he's a very professional guy.

Hutten have earned their glory in the past seasons aswell. First as a Yamaha-supported team, later as the official EMX250-team (just like Kemea did a few years before them).

Seewer has been the #1 rider at Yamaha for quite a few years now, and never made it happen. He will be #2 at Kawasaki next year, so maybe a little less pressure will suit him more. But I highly doubt he will ever "make it happen". It's known Yamaha FUBAR'ed last season, so maybe Seewer didn't even wanted to stay.

Losing Gebben is a shame, but I'm actually surprised that a local dealer lasted so long with a fulltime MXGP-team over all those years. Teams with way more resources as Gebben all came and went the past decade (i.e. Suzuki or Aprilia for example), so props to them. Maybe they can become the EMX250-team as Hutten will move up a class?

As for your statement: "they weaken their teams"... Dunno man, but succession is a part of MX. Or any sport for that matter. Seewer decided to leave and Coldenhoff's best days have most probably passed. At first it seemed KTM "weakened" their MX2-team by losing Vialle and Hofer (compulsory) and replaced them with Adamo and Everts. We all know how that turned out for them.

Geerts moves to MXGP, Benistant stays in MX2 and Bonacorsi joins him. As far as I'm concerned, that's the best replacement they could do.

Kawasaki signed Seewer before Febvre so I don’t know about that #2 on the team spot. Febvre clearly wasn’t happy with that and looked around but not many good spots available.. 
 

Hopefully it will work out for Kawasaki because the last 2 years the 2nd rider been a big blow with injury or complaining about the bike (wich could be a truth to that)

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