Let Ken bye

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9/17/2023 9:21am

Jett’s a good kid and has shown great maturity in his racing career. In this case, I would guess team Honda wasn’t real happy with the decision. 

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Larry450 wrote:

Is this activeride guy shuffling shims for the whole hep team or just for Kenny?

Matt is the in house guy for HEP so doing all their stuff

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9/17/2023 9:24am
Roczen would have gotten 2nd overall even if Jett didn’t let him win……. Correct?  3-2 for Roczen beats 2-3 for Sexton.  I don’t think the move...

Roczen would have gotten 2nd overall even if Jett didn’t let him win……. Correct?  3-2 for Roczen beats 2-3 for Sexton.  I don’t think the move was for points.

Pretty sure you are right. I would imagine 2nd moto carries more weight so Ken would have gotten 2nd even if he hadn't won the last moto.

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9/17/2023 9:29am

I made this one, came here to post it and should have figured, someone already did. Well, here's another one.Let Ken Bye.jpg?VersionId=.RZLGMoVG69KagMzJXTsGeoV

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9/17/2023 9:37am

Bitchmove - "oh, kenny just won because i didnt try to win"

lol

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9/17/2023 9:51am
I made this one, came here to post it and should have figured, someone already did. Well, here's another one.

I made this one, came here to post it and should have figured, someone already did. Well, here's another one.Let Ken Bye.jpg?VersionId=.RZLGMoVG69KagMzJXTsGeoV

Yours looks better than the drunken snapchat one I did 

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9/17/2023 10:02am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 10:03am

I hate that so many people expect for Jett to be perfect in terms of making decisions, especially at his age. We've all made dumb decisions in life but I swear some of you people calling Jett a dick is a bit of a stretch. He had a different thought process at the time and didn't get the math right, which some agreed with and some didn't. I make completely different decisions at 34 than I did at 25. Give him some grace.

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9/17/2023 10:05am
Tumic wrote:
Jeez, it was for the POINTS (he thought), the baby part he just threw in there.   and if we want to take this even further...

Jeez, it was for the POINTS (he thought), the baby part he just threw in there.

 

and if we want to take this even further, this could be seen as a fun jab against Ken’s tweet this summer about Jett..

The tweet was one of my first thoughts. I was thinking "Oh no, I hope he doesn't go all Unadilla 2002 Stewart on Kenny."

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The tweet was one of my first thoughts. I was thinking "Oh no, I hope he doesn't go all Unadilla 2002 Stewart on Kenny."

Ken loves to be outspoken and say controversial things, but hearing from the new star that he got gifted that win seems to be a hard pill to swallow.

Looking forward to see them battle in France at Des nations

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9/17/2023 10:10am

It was disrespectful, a bit foolish, but I kinda liked it Grinning

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9/17/2023 10:24am
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I feel like Jett was towing Kenny trying to drag him ahead of Chase. From about lap 4-5. It looked quite obvious what he was trying...

I feel like Jett was towing Kenny trying to drag him ahead of Chase. From about lap 4-5. It looked quite obvious what he was trying to do and then when he let him by it was like yup he def is playing that points game. Insuring Chase doesn’t get to Kenny. I’m sure weege could tell too, surely they didn’t really think he was having bike problems. ???

Motoxdoc wrote:
Yeah, it wasn’t bike problems he had, his problem was in addition.  That was a classic example of a home schooled motocrosser doing math in his...

Yeah, it wasn’t bike problems he had, his problem was in addition.  That was a classic example of a home schooled motocrosser doing math in his head while on the track.  It took me 10 seconds to figure out a 3-2 beats a 2-3….and that giving away a 1-1 was not a wise maneuver to put more points between him and Chase.  At least Kenny just had a baby and it made Jett look like a nice guy…but Kenny doesn’t seem like someone who is in need of money.  Instead of giving him an extra $25,000+ he should’ve just bought Kenny a stroller.

The points are awarded for the overall finish in SMX.  Not per moto like the outdoors.  Jet still gets the overall and the max points, 1st place money etc. .  His mistake was thinking that Kenny would gain a spot overall ,taking points away from chase.  He was doing the math right on his overall finish, but not on how it would change Kenny and Chases points . 

I'm a fan of both Kenny and Jett, and I thought it was a dick move towards Kenny to play it off the way he did. I don't think that Jet intended it to be taken that way. But I think it might have just fired Kenny up. The good news for fans is that it could make this last round a great battle instead of the normal snooze that finals tend to be.

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9/17/2023 10:39am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 10:49am
crusty_xx wrote:
 

Guess Kenny didn't like his gift much did he

Kenny knows the “oh so kind baby gift” is total bullshit.  I want everyone, especially the Jett can do no wrong crowd, to rewatch the race with about 3:10 left.  Jett had held an over 2 seconds lead for a while and then Kenny decided it was time. He closed down the over 2 second gap in about 30 seconds of track time.  That is called running him down. Jett was no longer yo-yo gapping him on parts of the track where he had been before.  Look how Jett is still riding hard.  Closed from over 2 seconds back to his rear tire and hounded him until 1+30 when he passed him.  Then watch how Jett waves him past…to try to make it look like he was letting him by…but Kenny was going to take it either way and they both know it.  He did NOT want to give any gift. He no longer wanted to try to hold him off at that pace and have something happen…. knowing that he had the overall anyway.  Then Kenny proceeded to gap him by over 5 seconds by the end as Jett backed it down to a safer pace.  After Jett finished he angrily rips off 4 tear offs.  Does Jett really strike anybody as someone wanting to give up a win…..ever.  I think the whole baby gift math in his head story was made up after to try to save face from Kenny being faster at the end ……and him trying to hide it behind a racing benevolence Jett has never shown in his life…ever.  My point?  Kenny beat him straight up and Kenny knows it…Jett knows it…and anyone watching the race without a fan boy delusion should know it.

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I also think Johnny O’, or someone, probably talked to him about the interview because the post race press conference was a different tune…

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btw…after the bullshit comments by Jett…he better buy Kenny a real f-n baby gift….and a good one.

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9/17/2023 10:47am

I'll pull up some of my stats from another thread.
+01.008
+04.122
+05.041
+02.448
+04.894
+03.053
+01.690
+04.377
+00.771
+05.883
+01.736

These are Jett's closest margins of victory outdoors. To say Jett couldn't "handle the pressure" after going undefeated as a rookie is hilarious. Keep doubting this kid.

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9/17/2023 10:57am
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Kenny knows the “oh so kind baby gift” is total bullshit.  I want everyone, especially the Jett can do no wrong crowd, to rewatch the race...

Kenny knows the “oh so kind baby gift” is total bullshit.  I want everyone, especially the Jett can do no wrong crowd, to rewatch the race with about 3:10 left.  Jett had held an over 2 seconds lead for a while and then Kenny decided it was time. He closed down the over 2 second gap in about 30 seconds of track time.  That is called running him down. Jett was no longer yo-yo gapping him on parts of the track where he had been before.  Look how Jett is still riding hard.  Closed from over 2 seconds back to his rear tire and hounded him until 1+30 when he passed him.  Then watch how Jett waves him past…to try to make it look like he was letting him by…but Kenny was going to take it either way and they both know it.  He did NOT want to give any gift. He no longer wanted to try to hold him off at that pace and have something happen…. knowing that he had the overall anyway.  Then Kenny proceeded to gap him by over 5 seconds by the end as Jett backed it down to a safer pace.  After Jett finished he angrily rips off 4 tear offs.  Does Jett really strike anybody as someone wanting to give up a win…..ever.  I think the whole baby gift math in his head story was made up after to try to save face from Kenny being faster at the end ……and him trying to hide it behind a racing benevolence Jett has never shown in his life…ever.  My point?  Kenny beat him straight up and Kenny knows it…Jett knows it…and anyone watching the race without a fan boy delusion should know it.

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I also think Johnny O’, or someone, probably talked to him about the interview because the post race press conference was a different tune…

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btw…after the bullshit comments by Jett…he better buy Kenny a real f-n baby gift….and a good one.

Getting waved by is not ”beat straight up”, until he makes a real pass on a charging Jett, this will continue to be a gifted win.

This is as straight up as when Savatgy let Eli by or when Marv let Dunge by..

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I hate that so many people expect for Jett to be perfect in terms of making decisions, especially at his age. We've all made dumb decisions...

I hate that so many people expect for Jett to be perfect in terms of making decisions, especially at his age. We've all made dumb decisions in life but I swear some of you people calling Jett a dick is a bit of a stretch. He had a different thought process at the time and didn't get the math right, which some agreed with and some didn't. I make completely different decisions at 34 than I did at 25. Give him some grace.

Were you making millions at a young age?

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9/17/2023 11:04am
Oldstyle wrote:

I can’t wrap my head around letting him win bc of the new baby

Tumic wrote:
Jeez, it was for the POINTS (he thought), the baby part he just threw in there.   and if we want to take this even further...

Jeez, it was for the POINTS (he thought), the baby part he just threw in there.

 

and if we want to take this even further, this could be seen as a fun jab against Ken’s tweet this summer about Jett..

I listened to Jett & Kenny’s chit-chat on the podium & they were both stoked. 

Jett was looking to put points between himself & Chase. It’s as simple as that. 

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9/17/2023 11:07am

Kenny caught Jett and might pass him. If Ken forced his way by and Jett crashed, SMX championship was at risk. Letting Ken by was a safe move and with the Olympic scoring didn’t lose a single point in the championship. Jett’s “gift” hid the real concern he had on Kenny’s speed. No need to let Kenny know he was catching him and fuel Kenny’s fire. 

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9/17/2023 11:07am
Larry450 wrote:

Is this activeride guy shuffling shims for the whole hep team or just for Kenny?

Renner153 wrote:

Matt is the in house guy for HEP so doing all their stuff

Chiz’s original guy. Brought him into the team.

 Could tell Ken got a lot faster once he came in for Supercross.

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9/17/2023 11:11am

How about damn, that was an awesome race. I am pumped to see Kenny be able to push like that. We haven’t seen that from him in years and this bodes well for SX. Yay, go us fans. Woo hoo….. 

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I hate that so many people expect for Jett to be perfect in terms of making decisions, especially at his age. We've all made dumb decisions...

I hate that so many people expect for Jett to be perfect in terms of making decisions, especially at his age. We've all made dumb decisions in life but I swear some of you people calling Jett a dick is a bit of a stretch. He had a different thought process at the time and didn't get the math right, which some agreed with and some didn't. I make completely different decisions at 34 than I did at 25. Give him some grace.

Remember Jett waving at people as he went by in outdoors last year. Probably didn’t mean it in a bad way.

Can definitely come off as a bit of a dick.  Still a kid, have to cut him some slack.

 Still like this in a few years…

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9/17/2023 11:15am
Tumic wrote:
Getting waved by is not ”beat straight up”, until he makes a real pass on a charging Jett, this will continue to be a gifted win...

Getting waved by is not ”beat straight up”, until he makes a real pass on a charging Jett, this will continue to be a gifted win.

This is as straight up as when Savatgy let Eli by or when Marv let Dunge by..

Yes it is- Jett making a dumb decision to let Kenny by is no different than a rider making a dumb decision and crashing (and letting someone by)..both are/were dumb decisions…

 

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9/17/2023 11:19am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 11:21am

I mean. Either Jett let up to let him by because he doesn’t care to lose or Jett let up because he’s a puss. 
If his manager decided for him, same scenario just applied to him  

the world will never know.

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9/17/2023 11:22am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 11:24am
I hate that so many people expect for Jett to be perfect in terms of making decisions, especially at his age. We've all made dumb decisions...

I hate that so many people expect for Jett to be perfect in terms of making decisions, especially at his age. We've all made dumb decisions in life but I swear some of you people calling Jett a dick is a bit of a stretch. He had a different thought process at the time and didn't get the math right, which some agreed with and some didn't. I make completely different decisions at 34 than I did at 25. Give him some grace.

filterq wrote:
Remember Jett waving at people as he went by in outdoors last year. Probably didn’t mean it in a bad way. Can definitely come off as...

Remember Jett waving at people as he went by in outdoors last year. Probably didn’t mean it in a bad way.

Can definitely come off as a bit of a dick.  Still a kid, have to cut him some slack.

 Still like this in a few years…

Watch the post race press conference and watch Kenny and Chase when Jett uses words like “let him by”.   Then watch them also when asked why he waived him by instead of just going wide in a turn or “making a mistake”.  Then as he answers watch Kenny.  Three of the best riders in the world are on that stage and they all know it’s bullshit…but he still says it.  I’m thinking they know better then a bunch of vital Jett fan boys.

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9/17/2023 11:33am
Larry450 wrote:

Is this activeride guy shuffling shims for the whole hep team or just for Kenny?

Renner153 wrote:

Matt is the in house guy for HEP so doing all their stuff

filterq wrote:

Chiz’s original guy. Brought him into the team.

 Could tell Ken got a lot faster once he came in for Supercross.

I know. Matt also posts on here every so often. 

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Shred wrote:
Watch the post race press conference and watch Kenny and Chase when Jett uses words like “let him by”.   Then watch them also when asked...

Watch the post race press conference and watch Kenny and Chase when Jett uses words like “let him by”.   Then watch them also when asked why he waived him by instead of just going wide in a turn or “making a mistake”.  Then as he answers watch Kenny.  Three of the best riders in the world are on that stage and they all know it’s bullshit…but he still says it.  I’m thinking they know better then a bunch of vital Jett fan boys.

What they do is the same thing every rider on the line do when they tell them self that they can win, but deep down they all know when they are beaten.

Jett won by 10 seconds the first moto and gifted Ken the other moto, why do you think that Ken wrote his heart out again trying to convince the whole world that he ”earned” it?

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9/17/2023 12:00pm

Jett was thinking of the million bucks and did some math during the race and got it wrong . Then he made an off the cuff remark that wasn’t received to well by Kenny . 
 

On to next week . 🍿

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9/17/2023 12:02pm

Jett was the only rider to raise his hand he was going to win this weekend.  There's no lack of confidence there. Who here said MC was a dick when he would slow down down to let riders catch him only to speed off again. (Per his interview in cycle news) psych 101. This kids on top of the world right now. Will SX bring him down a few notches? We'll see, but for now this kids having fun, and that's very bad for everyone else.

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9/17/2023 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 9/17/2023 12:12pm

Unless you're getting lapped I have a problem with letting someone by for any reason. It's a race, you're paid to race, so effen race.  It's like that BS move Savagty made when he pulled over and waved Tomac by at the monster energy cup so ET could get a Mil.  Total BS.  Sandbagging so a fellow racer can earn extra cash ?  F that.  Finally a close race and he backs off ?  Yeah cool bro F@*% your team who wants 100% effort at every race and is paying you to do so,  and F@$%$ the fans who want to see a real race. And I also can't understand this "New math" where somehow 1st is better ?, or just as good as 2nd points wise ?  This shit's too confusing. If you can win the race then win the stupid race. The little enthusiasm I did have to watch these spin off races just went out the window.  Sorry to be negative but come on, I see guys battling their guts out for 15th in the 60 novice class, watching the best in the world not give it their all is tough to watch, for me anyway.  Come on A-1 

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9/17/2023 12:13pm

Lord almighty. A twenty year old kid did something stupid that he’s going to learn from and a thirty year old with a habit of excuse making and crying was butt hurt by it. Moving on 🙄

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9/17/2023 12:14pm
sumdood wrote:
Unless you're getting lapped I have a problem with letting someone by for any reason. It's a race, you're paid to race, so effen race.  It's...

Unless you're getting lapped I have a problem with letting someone by for any reason. It's a race, you're paid to race, so effen race.  It's like that BS move Savagty made when he pulled over and waved Tomac by at the monster energy cup so ET could get a Mil.  Total BS.  Sandbagging so a fellow racer can earn extra cash ?  F that.  Finally a close race and he backs off ?  Yeah cool bro F@*% your team who wants 100% effort at every race and is paying you to do so,  and F@$%$ the fans who want to see a real race. And I also can't understand this "New math" where somehow 1st is better ?, or just as good as 2nd points wise ?  This shit's too confusing. If you can win the race then win the stupid race. The little enthusiasm I did have to watch these spin off races just went out the window.  Sorry to be negative but come on, I see guys battling their guts out for 15th in the 60 novice class, watching the best in the world not give it their all is tough to watch, for me anyway.  Come on A-1 

Take a walk bud, it's not that serious. 

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