MXGP Rumours/Silly season

9/8/2023 7:14am

Interesting. Do you know why he’s able to negotiate a deal like that? 

Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him...  Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the...

Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him... 

Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the paddock. 

Do you come with that deal?

Of course. Jeremy and I have many ideas and business plans that need to be executed, haha.

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9/8/2023 7:14am Edited Date/Time 9/8/2023 7:14am

Seewer has complete control over all categories: Gear, helmet, goggles, boots, energy drink etc.

The first MXGP rider to have such power.

Interesting. Do you know why he’s able to negotiate a deal like that? 

Good rider and a good agent

9/8/2023 7:35am
Cortami79 wrote:
For a MXGP title you need Prado, Gajser, Febvre or Herlings. Or you should be really lucky with all of them injured. Yamaha needs to hire...

For a MXGP title you need Prado, Gajser, Febvre or Herlings. Or you should be really lucky with all of them injured. Yamaha needs to hire one of those guys in my opinion

 

I think they all struggled with the Yam outdoors. Not sure if they have focused the design of the bike so much on supercross that it’s taken away it’s feel outdoor. Look at the ama as well, Ferrandis really struggled with bike setup also. 

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9/8/2023 8:20am
chrisgg90 wrote:
I think they all struggled with the Yam outdoors. Not sure if they have focused the design of the bike so much on supercross that it’s...

I think they all struggled with the Yam outdoors. Not sure if they have focused the design of the bike so much on supercross that it’s taken away it’s feel outdoor. Look at the ama as well, Ferrandis really struggled with bike setup also. 

Geerts and Renaux did it really well on a 450 at the MXON, so I don't think there's a bike problem.

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9/8/2023 8:43am
Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him...  Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the...

Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him... 

Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the paddock. 

Gotta love how loosely defined "Agent" is in MX haha 

9/8/2023 8:47am
JBone19 wrote:

Correct 

I wonder if Seewer will be able to keep his Shoei helmet deal if he moves to Kawi? 

Seewer has complete control over all categories: Gear, helmet, goggles, boots, energy drink etc.

The first MXGP rider to have such power.

Congrats to jeremy and well deserved.  Sounds like he's going to make some good money.

9/8/2023 8:57am
JBone19 wrote:

Correct 

I wonder if Seewer will be able to keep his Shoei helmet deal if he moves to Kawi? 

Seewer has complete control over all categories: Gear, helmet, goggles, boots, energy drink etc.

The first MXGP rider to have such power.

Did he want to change teams or did Yamaha want to let him go? Or did Kawi simply offer a better deal?

Seems stupid for Yamaha to let him go. He's maybe not a title threat but someone to count on to get a good amount of podiums and the occasional wins. 

9/8/2023 9:11am

I wonder if Seewer will be able to keep his Shoei helmet deal if he moves to Kawi? 

Seewer has complete control over all categories: Gear, helmet, goggles, boots, energy drink etc.

The first MXGP rider to have such power.

crusty_xx wrote:
Did he want to change teams or did Yamaha want to let him go? Or did Kawi simply offer a better deal? Seems stupid for Yamaha...

Did he want to change teams or did Yamaha want to let him go? Or did Kawi simply offer a better deal?

Seems stupid for Yamaha to let him go. He's maybe not a title threat but someone to count on to get a good amount of podiums and the occasional wins. 

Kawasaki showed a lot more faith and excitement about having him on their team. Yamaha mismanaged the situation.

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9/8/2023 9:17am

Seewer has complete control over all categories: Gear, helmet, goggles, boots, energy drink etc.

The first MXGP rider to have such power.

crusty_xx wrote:
Did he want to change teams or did Yamaha want to let him go? Or did Kawi simply offer a better deal? Seems stupid for Yamaha...

Did he want to change teams or did Yamaha want to let him go? Or did Kawi simply offer a better deal?

Seems stupid for Yamaha to let him go. He's maybe not a title threat but someone to count on to get a good amount of podiums and the occasional wins. 

Kawasaki showed a lot more faith and excitement about having him on their team. Yamaha mismanaged the situation.

Wow that's crazy. I feel like in the last years Yamaha has made some pretty good choices. Not this one
Hope it works out for Seewer

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9/8/2023 10:11am

Seewer is a great racer I hope he gets a title on the green bike.

With him gone Kemea Yamaha isn’t exactly hurting for talent- Geerts Renaux maybe coldenhoff if he stays…

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9/8/2023 10:36am

Kawasaki showed a lot more faith and excitement about having him on their team. Yamaha mismanaged the situation.

Please forgive my ignorance to the situation - but at the face of it - would you feel confident in saying the seemingly more stable management / sporting structure (such as IceOne has had in-place) versus the Wilvo v. Rinaldi / YE Divorce added to allure of the switch? *in addition to* the freedom to managing all sponsors, head-toe?

That being said, I have always loved his Goggle / Goggle Strap move. It's so simple & does add value - to the point that I'm a little surprised that more individuals / teams haven't done / been allowed to do it?

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9/8/2023 12:49pm
Brent wrote:
Seewer is a great racer I hope he gets a title on the green bike. With him gone Kemea Yamaha isn’t exactly hurting for talent- Geerts...

Seewer is a great racer I hope he gets a title on the green bike.

With him gone Kemea Yamaha isn’t exactly hurting for talent- Geerts Renaux maybe coldenhoff if he stays…

Coldenhoff will be on Wilvo, not Yamaha Factory MXGP.

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9/8/2023 12:51pm

Kawasaki showed a lot more faith and excitement about having him on their team. Yamaha mismanaged the situation.

CEMX182 wrote:
Please forgive my ignorance to the situation - but at the face of it - would you feel confident in saying the seemingly more stable management...

Please forgive my ignorance to the situation - but at the face of it - would you feel confident in saying the seemingly more stable management / sporting structure (such as IceOne has had in-place) versus the Wilvo v. Rinaldi / YE Divorce added to allure of the switch? *in addition to* the freedom to managing all sponsors, head-toe?

That being said, I have always loved his Goggle / Goggle Strap move. It's so simple & does add value - to the point that I'm a little surprised that more individuals / teams haven't done / been allowed to do it?

Kawasaki was a better offer in every way. The attraction of a fresh start too – Yamaha's management has been chaotic...

I'll be unpacking this with Seewer in an interview down the line (December) but it was a no brainer to leave Yamaha IMO.

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9/8/2023 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2023 1:16pm
Brent wrote:
Seewer is a great racer I hope he gets a title on the green bike. With him gone Kemea Yamaha isn’t exactly hurting for talent- Geerts...

Seewer is a great racer I hope he gets a title on the green bike.

With him gone Kemea Yamaha isn’t exactly hurting for talent- Geerts Renaux maybe coldenhoff if he stays…

Coldenhoff will be on Wilvo, not Yamaha Factory MXGP.

...so Vosters is going racing in 2024?

I keep hearing that team may take a year off of MXGP.   Will they still be on Yamaha, and if so will they be factory bikes or production?

I thought Hoff was going to retire, good that he will stay racing.

Shit changes every day with Yamaha...

9/8/2023 1:29pm
Brent wrote:
Seewer is a great racer I hope he gets a title on the green bike. With him gone Kemea Yamaha isn’t exactly hurting for talent- Geerts...

Seewer is a great racer I hope he gets a title on the green bike.

With him gone Kemea Yamaha isn’t exactly hurting for talent- Geerts Renaux maybe coldenhoff if he stays…

Coldenhoff will be on Wilvo, not Yamaha Factory MXGP.

Brent wrote:
...so Vosters is going racing in 2024? I keep hearing that team may take a year off of MXGP.   Will they still be on Yamaha...

...so Vosters is going racing in 2024?

I keep hearing that team may take a year off of MXGP.   Will they still be on Yamaha, and if so will they be factory bikes or production?

I thought Hoff was going to retire, good that he will stay racing.

Shit changes every day with Yamaha...

Vosters is 100% going racing. Manufacturer is TBC but Yamaha is one of two options – it won't be factory though.

I believe Coldenhoff has signed for 2024 and 2025; he will be around for a while yet. Yes, Yamaha is a real mess.

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9/8/2023 2:21pm

And to think people were getting antsy about Gajser contract not being done as early as they expected last year Grinning

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9/9/2023 12:00am

Coldenhoff will be on Wilvo, not Yamaha Factory MXGP.

Brent wrote:
...so Vosters is going racing in 2024? I keep hearing that team may take a year off of MXGP.   Will they still be on Yamaha...

...so Vosters is going racing in 2024?

I keep hearing that team may take a year off of MXGP.   Will they still be on Yamaha, and if so will they be factory bikes or production?

I thought Hoff was going to retire, good that he will stay racing.

Shit changes every day with Yamaha...

Vosters is 100% going racing. Manufacturer is TBC but Yamaha is one of two options – it won't be factory though. I believe Coldenhoff has signed for...

Vosters is 100% going racing. Manufacturer is TBC but Yamaha is one of two options – it won't be factory though.

I believe Coldenhoff has signed for 2024 and 2025; he will be around for a while yet. Yes, Yamaha is a real mess.

Wouldn't Vosters be the perfect team for Triumph?

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9/9/2023 12:08am

Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on factory KTM though

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9/9/2023 12:30am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2023 12:32am

" I'll be unpacking this with Seewer in an interview down the line (December) but it was a no brainer to leave Yamaha IMO"

 

December Lewis?

Your interviews with Seewer are bloody brilliant - how come so long before you do it?

Perhaps you can tide us over with an interview with  Ben Watson during the wait. Well, a few other Rider interviews as well - not being a suck up, but you do some great reportage and interviews, despite you  being a Pommie B**tard (had to throw in an insult, it's law for an Antipodean when conversing with a Brit) .

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9/9/2023 12:33am
Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him...  Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the...

Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him... 

Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the paddock. 

Can you reveal which teams wanted Seewer?

9/9/2023 3:47am
ayearinmx wrote:
And to think people were getting antsy about Gajser contract not being done as early as they expected last year 

And to think people were getting antsy about Gajser contract not being done as early as they expected last year Grinning

Laughing

9/9/2023 3:48am
Brent wrote:
...so Vosters is going racing in 2024? I keep hearing that team may take a year off of MXGP.   Will they still be on Yamaha...

...so Vosters is going racing in 2024?

I keep hearing that team may take a year off of MXGP.   Will they still be on Yamaha, and if so will they be factory bikes or production?

I thought Hoff was going to retire, good that he will stay racing.

Shit changes every day with Yamaha...

Vosters is 100% going racing. Manufacturer is TBC but Yamaha is one of two options – it won't be factory though. I believe Coldenhoff has signed for...

Vosters is 100% going racing. Manufacturer is TBC but Yamaha is one of two options – it won't be factory though.

I believe Coldenhoff has signed for 2024 and 2025; he will be around for a while yet. Yes, Yamaha is a real mess.

Motofinne wrote:

Wouldn't Vosters be the perfect team for Triumph?

MX ESCA will do a great job there... Vosters would be amazing for Ducati, I think, but that seems like a long shot now.

9/9/2023 3:51am
Cortami79 wrote:
Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on...

Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on factory KTM though

No Horgmo rumors; he had nothing the last time that I spoke to him. Moosdijk is just as quiet.

Beta need a second rider, so it makes sense for one of them to go there. It's moving fast now.

Forato has a deal and won't be on an Austrian bike. Clue: He'll sit next to a former world champion!

9/9/2023 3:52am
Bearuno wrote:
" I'll be unpacking this with Seewer in an interview down the line (December) but it was a no brainer to leave Yamaha IMO"   December...

" I'll be unpacking this with Seewer in an interview down the line (December) but it was a no brainer to leave Yamaha IMO"

 

December Lewis?

Your interviews with Seewer are bloody brilliant - how come so long before you do it?

Perhaps you can tide us over with an interview with  Ben Watson during the wait. Well, a few other Rider interviews as well - not being a suck up, but you do some great reportage and interviews, despite you  being a Pommie B**tard (had to throw in an insult, it's law for an Antipodean when conversing with a Brit) .

Seewer's Yamaha contract will expire in December, hence that wait.

Thank you! I need to do more – my life/stress was sorted this week, I'll be able to publish more and improve! Thanks again.

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9/9/2023 3:57am
Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him...  Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the...

Lucas is a really good agent and Jeremy was in hot demand. Four manufacturers wanted him... 

Jeremy was 100% the most sought after rider in the paddock. 

Juck wrote:

Can you reveal which teams wanted Seewer?

That's a good question... Can I? GASGAS was one of the first teams to show interest.

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9/9/2023 4:11am
Cortami79 wrote:
Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on...

Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on factory KTM though

No Horgmo rumors; he had nothing the last time that I spoke to him. Moosdijk is just as quiet. Beta need a second rider, so it...

No Horgmo rumors; he had nothing the last time that I spoke to him. Moosdijk is just as quiet.

Beta need a second rider, so it makes sense for one of them to go there. It's moving fast now.

Forato has a deal and won't be on an Austrian bike. Clue: He'll sit next to a former world champion!

I heard they all found a home Smile So Lupino out at Beta, Watson had a two year deal. 
 

Very good for Forato! Hope him and Jonass will get along well

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9/9/2023 4:52am
Cortami79 wrote:
Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on...

Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on factory KTM though

No Horgmo rumors; he had nothing the last time that I spoke to him. Moosdijk is just as quiet. Beta need a second rider, so it...

No Horgmo rumors; he had nothing the last time that I spoke to him. Moosdijk is just as quiet.

Beta need a second rider, so it makes sense for one of them to go there. It's moving fast now.

Forato has a deal and won't be on an Austrian bike. Clue: He'll sit next to a former world champion!

Horgmo most likely with SR Honda Motoblouz Ship-to-Cycle.

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9/9/2023 4:57am
Cortami79 wrote:
Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on...

Lewis, any rumours on Horgmo, Vd Moosdijk and Forato? Heard some things but seems like they all found a spot for next year.  Forato not on factory KTM though

No Horgmo rumors; he had nothing the last time that I spoke to him. Moosdijk is just as quiet. Beta need a second rider, so it...

No Horgmo rumors; he had nothing the last time that I spoke to him. Moosdijk is just as quiet.

Beta need a second rider, so it makes sense for one of them to go there. It's moving fast now.

Forato has a deal and won't be on an Austrian bike. Clue: He'll sit next to a former world champion!

Xavier wrote:

Horgmo most likely with SR Honda Motoblouz Ship-to-Cycle.

That would make me happy! I feel like that's the best situation that Horgmo can hope for.

9/10/2023 6:16am

Any updates on Evans? Keep hearing he'll stay in MXGP, any idea where he will find a home?

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9/10/2023 10:09am

Any updates on Evans? Keep hearing he'll stay in MXGP, any idea where he will find a home?

I would bet that he'll be on a German KTM team doing the ADAC and some/all GPs.

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