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9/6/2023 3:37pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2023 3:38pm

It made it to a mythbusters show, but the riddle has been around: can an airplane take off if the runway is a conveyor belt running against the direction the plane is moving? (I think that is right). In other words, does the drive of the belt offset the drive of the plane?  

The hitch for the half that get it wrong I think is fixating on the plane wheels and imagining they propel the plane as they do with a car, and the conveyor belt is a red herring.  Think of a plane on snow with skids.

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It made it to a mythbusters show, but the riddle has been around: can an airplane take off if the runway is a conveyor belt running...

It made it to a mythbusters show, but the riddle has been around: can an airplane take off if the runway is a conveyor belt running against the direction the plane is moving? (I think that is right). In other words, does the drive of the belt offset the drive of the plane?  

The hitch for the half that get it wrong I think is fixating on the plane wheels and imagining they propel the plane as they do with a car, and the conveyor belt is a red herring.  Think of a plane on snow with skids.

I think Mythbusters even found a pilot that didn't think it would work

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9/6/2023 6:28pm
OW38B wrote:
Much of the spring idea came from the current riders at the time that thought the spring did the seat bounce dealio. Most of us know...

Much of the spring idea came from the current riders at the time that thought the spring did the seat bounce dealio.

Most of us know it was trajectory angle...

BTW, TFS was a "Richard", truth be told.

 

He was a strong personality, generous as could be regardless whether he agreed with you, but pretty unforgiving if he felt you crossed him.   Pretty...

He was a strong personality, generous as could be regardless whether he agreed with you, but pretty unforgiving if he felt you crossed him.  

Pretty thick skin; most of the arguing that people took too seriously because of his bluntness didn't phase him until someone turned into "Richard" taking it personally.

He was tough. He kicked me out over 20 times but let me back in....yet we were buds when face to face at events. He's a legend.

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9/6/2023 7:17pm

I googled TFS and still don’t know what it stands for.  

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wwdiii wrote:

I googled TFS and still don’t know what it stands for.  

The Factory Spectator, I think. 

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wwdiii wrote:

I googled TFS and still don’t know what it stands for.  

freeh wrote:

The Factory Spectator, I think. 

Correct sir 

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The seatbounce and conveyor belt threads were absolute classics.  He was smarter than most.

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It’s nice to read so many nice things about Steve. 
Thank you. He was super nice to me and my family, we will NEVER forget him. 
RIP TFS. 

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He was a strong personality, generous as could be regardless whether he agreed with you, but pretty unforgiving if he felt you crossed him.   Pretty...

He was a strong personality, generous as could be regardless whether he agreed with you, but pretty unforgiving if he felt you crossed him.  

Pretty thick skin; most of the arguing that people took too seriously because of his bluntness didn't phase him until someone turned into "Richard" taking it personally.

OW38B wrote:
I just think he took it too personally to prove not so much he was right but that the other person was wrong. ie. the seat...

I just think he took it too personally to prove not so much he was right but that the other person was wrong.

ie. the seat bounce dealio.

 

SoCalMX70 wrote:

That sounds more like wordnerd... Nerd... Steve Cox...

Well....they were cut from the same cloth it seems.

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The seatbounce and conveyor belt threads were absolute classics.  He was smarter than most.

Bro, it's a moto forum......how many "Rhodes Scholars" do you think are posting in here?

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9/7/2023 6:31pm
OW38B wrote:
I just think he took it too personally to prove not so much he was right but that the other person was wrong. ie. the seat...

I just think he took it too personally to prove not so much he was right but that the other person was wrong.

ie. the seat bounce dealio.

 

SoCalMX70 wrote:

That sounds more like wordnerd... Nerd... Steve Cox...

OW38B wrote:

Well....they were cut from the same cloth it seems.

Not really, pretty different guys to be honest, even if both loved to argue and win an argument even if it meant wearing you down.  At least TFS would come up for air.  Some dummies never learned to walk away when it had run its course.  

Bauer and TFS were more common, and Steve B was tight with TFS. 

 

9/9/2023 6:24am
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Steve Bruhn was my friend.  In, I think, 1998, I was a local Florida journeyman pro with a badly broken leg who had crutched his way...

Steve Bruhn was my friend. 

In, I think, 1998, I was a local Florida journeyman pro with a badly broken leg who had crutched his way to the top of Raymond James Stadium in Tampa to watch Friday's supercross practice. With a bit of training and experience as a local newspaper sports editor from high school and college some years before, I had a bit of an epiphany while watching said practice. 

I knew how to string three words together, and drafted an account of those practice sessions primarily featuring Jeremy, Ezra Lusk, and Kevin Windham, and how they dissected that blue grooved hard pack track on a hot and dusty afternoon -- which I then posted on MotoTalk. 

My subterfuge, however, was to draw attention to rookie Jason Thomas with the 371 number plate. I was friends with both Jay and his father Fast Frank, had managed to score a bit of sponsorship and half-a-dozen racebikes over some years for my boy, and knew full well a "watch this kid" post would be quickly lost by the wayside. Instead, I drafted a post about the current heroes, and snuck JT in at the bottom. 

It was well received on the message board and Steve snagged it, added his own photos, and turned it into a feature. 

Encouraged by that reaction, I subsequently continued to write stories about several following races, which were also well received, leading to an overture from Davey Coombs to pen a feature for Racer X magazine, then still a fledgling publication but nonetheless the first I'd been published in a four-color glossy magazine. And to a few more features to follow in the mag, which were similarly well-received. 

That, along with that bit of schooling from several years past, led to a a gig as Managing Editor with Wide Open MX, a freestyle mag a few old timers might remember, and then a job as Editor in Chief for Motorcycle Product News magazine, which was then a major powersports industry trade journal. With my good friend of then Rob Buydos, we put together the MPN pit bike nationals of 2003, got exposure at all the nationals and on MotoWorld television, and so on.  

That led to a berth as media development director for Parts Unlimited -- a job I was frankly ill-suited for, I wasn't then and am not now a tight shoes suit and tie go to the corporate office everyday guy -- and later EIC at Watercraft World and media development director for the American Watercraft Association. 

Along the way, I returned the favor to my friend Steve by enlisting him in a good many well-paying photography gigs. After all, in some way, I owed what I had become to him, and to MotoTalk. 

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From 2002, a cover photo with Bruhn behind the camera and myself in front of it over the yet-to-be named Chadapult at Millville, taken during a PU dealer ride day. 

The mortgage economy recession of 2008-09 kneecapped both the publishing and powersports industry, and my career. A rather unfortunate confluence of events, that.  Though I managed a few more high-profile jobs afterwards, it was all over. I've essentially toiled in obscurity and borderline poverty since in the newspaper business. Now even that has gone away. Borderline no more.  

For a time though, life was good. And my friend TFS had in a way made that possible. 

And when Bruhn passed some years later. I was saddened. And still am. 

Steve was my friend, oft-times collaborator, and all-around good guy. He was also more than a little prescient regarding the state of both amateur and professional motocross to come. 

RIP TFS. The way things are going, I'll be along to join you shortly. 

One of the best things I've read in this madhouse in quite some time.

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9/9/2023 2:18pm
SoCalMX70 wrote:

That sounds more like wordnerd... Nerd... Steve Cox...

OW38B wrote:

Well....they were cut from the same cloth it seems.

Not really, pretty different guys to be honest, even if both loved to argue and win an argument even if it meant wearing you down.  At...

Not really, pretty different guys to be honest, even if both loved to argue and win an argument even if it meant wearing you down.  At least TFS would come up for air.  Some dummies never learned to walk away when it had run its course.  

Bauer and TFS were more common, and Steve B was tight with TFS. 

 

Yes, they both had their different idiosyncrasies....but I was referring to them them in a broad sense.

 

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