Favorite vet track socal?

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Love the Arroyo track at GH. It is on the basic/easy side, but at 51 years old, that is a lot of what I like about it. It has the feel of tracks that were common in the '80s & '90s so that part also adds to the appeal for me. Just wish it wasn't a 3.5 hour drive for me to get there.

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BAD10 wrote:
Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt...

Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt parking lot with jumps thrown in. Terrible flow, terrible dirt, and not a single corner that you can really rail. Not a single remarkable aspect to it. Tell me I’m wrong. 🙄

boybuc wrote:

Your Wrong

I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. Grinning

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BAD10 wrote:
Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt...

Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt parking lot with jumps thrown in. Terrible flow, terrible dirt, and not a single corner that you can really rail. Not a single remarkable aspect to it. Tell me I’m wrong. 🙄

boybuc wrote:

Your Wrong

BAD10 wrote:
I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. 

I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. Grinning

When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I have been having lots of fun out there and I like how they change a little something every couple of months. Maybe you should give it another try?

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8/17/2023 7:32pm
boybuc wrote:

Your Wrong

BAD10 wrote:
I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. 

I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. Grinning

brocster wrote:
When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I...

When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I have been having lots of fun out there and I like how they change a little something every couple of months. Maybe you should give it another try?

You mean to tell me someone would crap on a track and claim it's the worst track in the country and not have actually ridden it recently? You have to be joking! 

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I'm 64 and I have a blast at Barona Oaks, I can clear every jump in mode 2 on my Alta.  The only down side with Barona is that they are closed until November.

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BAD10 wrote:
Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt...

Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt parking lot with jumps thrown in. Terrible flow, terrible dirt, and not a single corner that you can really rail. Not a single remarkable aspect to it. Tell me I’m wrong. 🙄

In the past, I would have agreed with this but, I went last weekend and it actually flowed pretty well.  The only thing I hated was the second double in the center of the track that is way too steep.  Other than that, it was a cruise and everything was pretty easy to clear even on my enduro bike.

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8/17/2023 9:47pm

Elsinore IV hands down

Rode it a few weeks ago. I didn’t like the section next to the road in, the 2 jumps after the corner are really bad. It has had it moments before.

However the vet track…I had a blast on! Seemed like they added something? It was pretty rad how they open at 7. I was really surprised, 7AM  ripped, soaked actually really nice just could’ve used more riders to help burn in lines. 
The main track was not even as good of prep as the vet.  Inconsistent dry spots and soaked spots. Good call for them to start that early during the summer!

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Elsinore IV hands down

wisey wrote:
Rode it a few weeks ago. I didn’t like the section next to the road in, the 2 jumps after the corner are really bad. It...

Rode it a few weeks ago. I didn’t like the section next to the road in, the 2 jumps after the corner are really bad. It has had it moments before.

However the vet track…I had a blast on! Seemed like they added something? It was pretty rad how they open at 7. I was really surprised, 7AM  ripped, soaked actually really nice just could’ve used more riders to help burn in lines. 
The main track was not even as good of prep as the vet.  Inconsistent dry spots and soaked spots. Good call for them to start that early during the summer!

I agree. If they made those two jumps by the road bigger and less steep they could be really fun. Yes I rode the main last weekend and was dry as hell. Fun layout though 

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8/18/2023 12:13am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2023 12:14am
ML512 wrote:
I question the terrible flow comment, it's the easiest track here to do motos on. I can come off the couch and crack a 30 on...

I question the terrible flow comment, it's the easiest track here to do motos on. I can come off the couch and crack a 30 on the track without arm pump. Rail all outsides and it's pretty easy.

Over half the track is all outside berms you can hurt in third on a 450.

Cahuilla Vet track is simple, very fun to ride with buddies...the middle triple is one of the worst built jumps I think I've ever seen...but overall fairly safe. I'm actually amazed how many people crash on the little step-up double that's right before the flagger stand.

Elsinore's actual vet track is...I don't know how to describe it other than it's a concrete highway with a couple random corners and offset jumps. Their am track in the corner has the best dirt on the facility, it's a bit fast, some fun jumps. The double into the corner referenced above is way worse looking than it is. I think the main problem is the run up is too long. I just cruise up to slow it and give it that nice lil last minute blip so you drop into the corner more. If you charge that one and try to soak it up, getting into the corner can be a little sketchy. 

Perris vet is extremely basic, more like a mini track. Very tight in a couple of spots and very fast into flat corners on one side.

Never have ridden the LACR vet, we only go there occasionally for shoots and use the main. I never go with buddies that I'd follow around on the vet track. Same with GH.

"I can come off the couch and crack a 30 on the track without arm pump."

Dude, this is VET rider discussion. You clearly are not one. Or if you are, you are one of those in the Newbie Vet age bracket. LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

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8/18/2023 12:28am
boybuc wrote:

Your Wrong

BAD10 wrote:
I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. 

I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. Grinning

brocster wrote:
When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I...

When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I have been having lots of fun out there and I like how they change a little something every couple of months. Maybe you should give it another try?

I rode it two weeks ago. Not impressed at all. I don’t like parking lot tracks. I get it’s a place to ride, and for some people may be the most convenient place, but if you’re being objective I don’t see how anyone can call it a good track, and I don’t think there’s much they could do to change it given the terrain and location. It is what it is.  

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8/18/2023 4:06am

I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main track. 

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Falcon wrote:
I like Cahuilla. The last time I rode Glen Helen, the main was like a vet track also. Call it vet+. Pretty rad. I can't tell...

I like Cahuilla. The last time I rode Glen Helen, the main was like a vet track also. Call it vet+. Pretty rad.

I can't tell if Hubbard is joking. 😄

Haha. GH looks sick. Need to check it out. 

They also have a more traditional vet track over on the other side of the pits. That one still has hills, but no double jumps. (The main track only had big tabletops the last time I went, but they often pepper in some doubles as well.) Definitely worth checking out.

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8/18/2023 6:24am
BAD10 wrote:
Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt...

Fox/Pala vet track is absolutely horrible. I’ve ridden quite a few tracks around the country and it’s one of the worst. Nothing more than a dirt parking lot with jumps thrown in. Terrible flow, terrible dirt, and not a single corner that you can really rail. Not a single remarkable aspect to it. Tell me I’m wrong. 🙄

boybuc wrote:

Your Wrong

BAD10 wrote:
I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. 

I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. Grinning

I rode Pala 2 weeks ago Friday and had the most fun in a long time. Great morning! I mostly go to Barona though.

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Dirtydeeds wrote:
I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main...

I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main track. 

The ranch was awesome I wish somebody would try to get another lease from the Indians!

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8/18/2023 8:04am
Dirtydeeds wrote:
I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main...

I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main track. 

This! It was the closest thing I got to riding Carlsbad. 

Agree with ML on Perris vet. Fun, but small and more of a mini type of track last time I rode it, but that was July 3, 2022. 

I'm not a huge fan of LACR's vet, but it is close and it's somewhere to ride. Fast and usually way over crowded. It will be perfect to ride after a long time off the bike to get back into the groove of things though.

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8/18/2023 8:15am
boybuc wrote:

Your Wrong

BAD10 wrote:
I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. 

I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. Grinning

ToolMaker wrote:

I rode Pala 2 weeks ago Friday and had the most fun in a long time. Great morning! I mostly go to Barona though.

Barona is awesome. The whole experience of the place is top notch with the trees in the pits, etc. The track is a lot of fun and they really do a good job with it! 

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I miss the Pala mid day prep, made for an awesome last moto of the day. 

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8/18/2023 9:58am
Dirtydeeds wrote:
I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main...

I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main track. 

mattyhamz2 wrote:
This! It was the closest thing I got to riding Carlsbad.  Agree with ML on Perris vet. Fun, but small and more of a mini type...

This! It was the closest thing I got to riding Carlsbad. 

Agree with ML on Perris vet. Fun, but small and more of a mini type of track last time I rode it, but that was July 3, 2022. 

I'm not a huge fan of LACR's vet, but it is close and it's somewhere to ride. Fast and usually way over crowded. It will be perfect to ride after a long time off the bike to get back into the groove of things though.

I finally went out and spun some laps on the LACR vet track after a long time off the bike about a month ago and had a blast. That step down coming off the hill is ass puckering the first couple times though. haha

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8/18/2023 10:26am

I've only ridden the LACR vet track on private ride days and it was awesome.  I don't think I'd love it in a big crowd though.

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8/18/2023 11:43am
Dirtydeeds wrote:
I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main...

I know its shut down but the Carlsbad track at the ranch was a lot of fun. Miss swappin motos between that track and the main track. 

mattyhamz2 wrote:
This! It was the closest thing I got to riding Carlsbad.  Agree with ML on Perris vet. Fun, but small and more of a mini type...

This! It was the closest thing I got to riding Carlsbad. 

Agree with ML on Perris vet. Fun, but small and more of a mini type of track last time I rode it, but that was July 3, 2022. 

I'm not a huge fan of LACR's vet, but it is close and it's somewhere to ride. Fast and usually way over crowded. It will be perfect to ride after a long time off the bike to get back into the groove of things though.

avidchimp wrote:
I finally went out and spun some laps on the LACR vet track after a long time off the bike about a month ago and had...

I finally went out and spun some laps on the LACR vet track after a long time off the bike about a month ago and had a blast. That step down coming off the hill is ass puckering the first couple times though. haha

Ya I'm not a huge fan of that. I've seen a few guys come off of it sideways, come up short and bounce sideways... You get going pretty good through there and have to really check up for the next few jumps. Two family friends got whiskey throttle through there and landed in the face of the second table. Both were off the bikes for a good while after that. Don't get me wrong, it is fun to ride and agree with Seth, it's awesome for rentals. I couldn't ride it every single weekend though.

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8/18/2023 12:33pm
BAD10 wrote:
I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. 

I stand by my comment Gary and will double down. On no planet is that a good track. Its sh!t!! You all must have low standards. Grinning

brocster wrote:
When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I...

When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I have been having lots of fun out there and I like how they change a little something every couple of months. Maybe you should give it another try?

BAD10 wrote:
I rode it two weeks ago. Not impressed at all. I don’t like parking lot tracks. I get it’s a place to ride, and for some...

I rode it two weeks ago. Not impressed at all. I don’t like parking lot tracks. I get it’s a place to ride, and for some people may be the most convenient place, but if you’re being objective I don’t see how anyone can call it a good track, and I don’t think there’s much they could do to change it given the terrain and location. It is what it is.  

Copy but the title says “favorite vet track” and I believe that its a good “vet track” that typically has good flow and fun jumps. To each his own though. Ride on!  Maybe see you at Barona one day.

 

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WarrenMX wrote:
Pala. It's the only vet track I still see pros riding on here and there.  When I left Pala on Tuesday it looked like they were...

Pala. It's the only vet track I still see pros riding on here and there. 

When I left Pala on Tuesday it looked like they were working on a new layout. 

This is why I don't go to Pala very often.  Some of the  guys riding that vet track are absolutely  flying...even with 100 other riders out there.  ...and I am slow as heck, so I totally get in their way.

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8/18/2023 3:01pm Edited Date/Time 8/31/2026 9:15pm
WarrenMX wrote:
Pala. It's the only vet track I still see pros riding on here and there.  When I left Pala on Tuesday it looked like they were...

Pala. It's the only vet track I still see pros riding on here and there. 

When I left Pala on Tuesday it looked like they were working on a new layout. 

sdmx wrote:
This is why I don't go to Pala very often.  Some of the  guys riding that vet track are absolutely  flying...even with 100 other riders out...

This is why I don't go to Pala very often.  Some of the  guys riding that vet track are absolutely  flying...even with 100 other riders out there.  ...and I am slow as heck, so I totally get in their way.

A couple years ago Ryno blew my doors off and scared the shit out of me on the Pala Vet. 
 

Pala is fun if you’re charging. If you’re riding hard and make all the jumps out of the corners you can flow nicely. 
 

Cahuilla is fun because the dirt is awesome and if you want you can push hard. But you can just as easily roll around and have fun. Pala you cannot roll around 

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brocster wrote:
When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I...

When was the last time you have ridden it?  When I first moved here in 2017 I hated it but since Fox has taken over I have been having lots of fun out there and I like how they change a little something every couple of months. Maybe you should give it another try?

BAD10 wrote:
I rode it two weeks ago. Not impressed at all. I don’t like parking lot tracks. I get it’s a place to ride, and for some...

I rode it two weeks ago. Not impressed at all. I don’t like parking lot tracks. I get it’s a place to ride, and for some people may be the most convenient place, but if you’re being objective I don’t see how anyone can call it a good track, and I don’t think there’s much they could do to change it given the terrain and location. It is what it is.  

brocster wrote:
Copy but the title says “favorite vet track” and I believe that its a good “vet track” that typically has good flow and fun jumps. To...

Copy but the title says “favorite vet track” and I believe that its a good “vet track” that typically has good flow and fun jumps. To each his own though. Ride on!  Maybe see you at Barona one day.

 

True True. Point taken. And yes, Barona reopens in November!

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Rode the new pala vet layout today. I really liked it. I wish they would steepen up the step-up-step-down opposite the cafe. They mellowed the take-off a couple of weeks ago and ruined it in my opinion. 

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8/18/2023 5:37pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2023 5:39pm

Pala’s vet has the best dirt (in SoCal). Anytime before 12 it’s good. Mellow of course it’s a vet track. I think they should be called beginner tracks. Not all vets are slow and some vets actually want gap jumps.

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8/31/2023 10:47am

You guys have convinced me.  I'm hitting Pala tomorrow, then GH Saturday and Cahuilla Sunday.  If anyone is going also, stop over and say hi.  I'll be the only guy in a red Sprinter with Ohio plates.  Lol.  I ride a Gasgas with no numbers.

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8/31/2023 11:16am

Anybody have a CA map showing the tracks?

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8/31/2023 3:55pm

One of my favorite vet tracks was the main track at Quail Canyon ( Gorman ) Hopefully they will fix their water well issues and re open that place. Can’t beat the convenience or the price of $5 a day or $50 for a season pass. 

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freeh wrote:
Great topic.   50+ vet rider and I'm planning on a moto trip to SoCal over Labor Day.  I would like to ride Perris on Friday, GH...

Great topic.   50+ vet rider and I'm planning on a moto trip to SoCal over Labor Day.  I would like to ride Perris on Friday, GH Saturday and Cahuilla Sunday. 

Is there a preferred tire for those tracks?  I need new tires anyway. TIA

I'd go with the Dunlop MX 33 Geomax front & rear  forsure 

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