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We hear over and over again about top riders having to really dig deep the last few mins of motos. Some will even admit to running out of energy. Take the running out of energy equation out would give a top rider a huge advantage. Yea PEDS won't help with technique but having more stamina toward the last part of a moto is huge.
It’s an advantage. But it’s only one piece of a big puzzle.
I am not a subscriber but that is a very bad look. And a very bad look for the frenchies in general so I am pretty disappointed by their talk. Having doubts in private conversations is very very different than through a serious media/name that has built its legitimacy over the last 20 years.
Here Kerv' is frank as always, but he doesn't need to throw some shades with zero proofs on one of the most popular riders, or any rider for that matter, weither you like him or not. It could be considered as defamation and he could lose his shirt playing this game. It reminds me of some "famous" people a few years ago spreading bad stories on the series and that were supposed to say big things then nothing popped up.
I know Kervella has his protégé on track, so is he not surprised by Shimoda's performance when he scores a 5th then win next moto or next rounds with a 20 seconds lead ? It is easy to say BS and to throw shade on someone but it can work both ways.
The biggest advantage of PEDS is recovery, say like from a rough day at Southwick.
but PEDS are so advanced these days, there’s no telling who’s taking what!
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What time does Deegan race?
When I was 17, we had bene racing my whole life and I can say I never got tired on the bike. Racing pro ams, GP's, harescrambles. Never felt like I was out of energy. I think its a combination of youth and having one hell of a base
Has anyone even seen the kid wear a heart rate monitor? I would think someone who is allegedly messing around with that kind of gear would be keeping close attention to what his heart is doing during a race.
Yeah what good would EPO do for these guys? LoL
Any pro athlete should easily be able to hold that hr for 30.
In my mid 30’s I could hold 184 for a 35 min 10k that's training around normal family life.
The support these pros get they should need peds to do this sport, if your looking for short cuts then I guess yes but shouldn’t be necessary.
"PEDS" is a very broad term. Some help with training and recovery, and some help in competition. Who wouldn't want some extra red blood cells and lung capacity at the end of a moto?
No doubt some guys are using but it's pretty irresponsible to make accusations based merely on suspicion.
Combined with a serious case of “Not this shit, again?!”
Guys did it, but it wasn’t the science it is now, EPO wasn’t a thing. It was mostly for strength and recovery.
Most people have the genetics to get to a 180 heart rate, but they would all be smoked.
When a guy goes to the podium not breathing hard after he’s been maxed out for 35 minutes, I’m suspicious.
You have to be very naive to think that some of the top guys aren’t using EPO.
If you're truly running 35 min 10ks please message me lol I need to get faster. Endurance is gravy but I'm a little slower than I'd like.
I said in the race day thread that Deegan’s second moto charge was “Chupacabra-ish”. Now with the PED allegations it REALLY feels like the Chupacabra all over again.
I'm conflicted on this; I have no idea who is using PEDs (although it seems naive to think no one in the pro motocross circus is), and I think it's good to ask question, but folks need to use caution with the speculation about specific riders (i.e. Roczen, Deegan, Sexton) because of reputational damage that could occur.
As far as Deegan goes, I have been impressed with his mental strength and drive (even though I despise that whole Deegan clown show). His second moto at Washougal was something to behold. Still....I'd way rather have a classy Aussie (or Euro) win than a low-brow American....that's just me, and I realize I'm in the minority when it comes to this topic.
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“Low brow”…?
Damn, some of us just don’t like the Deegs.
Getting accused of being on the sauce is a compliment.
It’s still on there DV
edit…..just saw you deleted your post
This thread Title is really disappointing and I hope ML steps and fixes it.
They took it out for a while and put it back up. Maybe they edited it and posted back. I'm not gonna listen to it again though haha
The funny thing is Deegan had his arse handed to him at Southwick- second moto he came in 68 seconds back and best lap 4 seconds slower than Jo.
Similar at Millville 30 seconds plus late home and 3.5 seconds best lap slower than Hunter.
No peds, just funny physiology and psychology.
Tony Alessi has been trying to tell us about this for years!
Have you seen Brian with his shirt off!? That guy is ripped, isn’t he like 50-51 yrs old? Just sayin’
This was at Washougal, if he’s not on something, I want to know his secret or just good genetics?
I was pinching myself to check I wasn't dreaming.
Lebig vaguely protests, saying "maybe it's just because he's young, giving it all he has, has a lot of natural stamina" before going "It's true he doesn't seem tired at all on the podium" and "he said at the press conference he's doing more stuff than working with Swanepoel but he won't tell what"...
Just quoting Kervella's podcast on LBU, his principle being "once a cheater, always a cheater"...
I think they need to drug test some Vitards here
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