Deegan Champ???

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ktmdan wrote:
It was a good ride, but I lost any kind of respect for the kid when he gave a shoutout to a charged rapist and human...

It was a good ride, but I lost any kind of respect for the kid when he gave a shoutout to a charged rapist and human trafficker, self-proclaimed rapist and woman beater on the podium. And zero respect for Brian because he surely knows what the kid is in to. 

Perky wrote:

What was said? I completely missed that.

they asked about how he did a 2:15 lap late in the race and he said "ive been listening to alot of david goggin and andrew tate"(both guys are known for motivating speeches, talking about pushing through pain etc)...tate is currently being charged with finance related charges, trafficking, and organized crime in romania(hasnt been found guilty yet and otherwise has a clean record).  And he made a lot of money off running a "cam girls" website so a lot of people think he is scum.  I dont know anyone who really hates on goggins, guy is an ex navy seal, and ultra marathon runner.

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Goggins good. Tate not good at all. Good ride but yikes. Get some better role models.

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Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims...

Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims on the Yamaha's today. He'll send it for USA that's for sure!

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

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The deegan strategy of trying to drive a wedge and manufacture a rivalry in between them and the Lawrence’s (aus v American) is going to get annoying real fast. 
 

good ride. 

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7/22/2023 7:00pm

He’s 17 and just went 1-1 and he’s peaking. Give him a break what is coming out of his mouth. 
 

Don’t read too much into it. 

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He's just a kid.  He'll take some lumps about his podium speech and learn from it.  He obviously he wasn't intentionally promoting a rapist, but rather referring to motivational content he was listening to between motos.  He smoked everyone today.  Not bad for a 17yr old rookie.

 

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He’s 17 and just went 1-1 and he’s peaking. Give him a break what is coming out of his mouth.    Don’t read too much into...

He’s 17 and just went 1-1 and he’s peaking. Give him a break what is coming out of his mouth. 
 

Don’t read too much into it. 

His audience is young adults and kids, so I find the criticism fair if he's promoting some dumbass grifter that is promoting hateful stuff. Like I said in an earlier comment, he himself is a teenager so I'm understanding but that doesn't mean I can't criticize the people he's thanking on the podium. I'm not putting any of this on Deegan but rather pointing out how this shit works. 

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7/22/2023 7:16pm
Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims...

Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims on the Yamaha's today. He'll send it for USA that's for sure!

ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

To compare Andrew Tate to Jeffery Epstein is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in real life or internet forms.  

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To compare Andrew Tate to Jeffery Epstein is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in real life or internet forms.  

They're cut from the same cloth. Difference is Epstein worked for the rich, Tate not so much. And probably why Tate won't take nearly as long to lock up.

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I have no idea who those two guys are and don’t really care, but this isn’t the first time Deegan has tried to talk up a rivalry. Not real smart as a young rookie.
I hoped after the last time he may have got some different advice and heeded it, obviously not.

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7/22/2023 7:28pm
Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims...

Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims on the Yamaha's today. He'll send it for USA that's for sure!

ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

kylemenz1 wrote:

To compare Andrew Tate to Jeffery Epstein is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in real life or internet forms.  

Give me one example of Deegs having a bad head on his shoulder's. I don't care what gets him fired up before the races. He could very easily be ME ME ME on the podium but not he's all about America. That's all I care about  

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7/22/2023 7:42pm
Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims...

Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims on the Yamaha's today. He'll send it for USA that's for sure!

ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

At the end of the day, there's nothing bigger than that to Deegan. To you there are things bigger than that. He's amazing at riding his toy and with never work a real job in his life because of it. I doubt he can be canceled either because he's so good at it

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7/22/2023 7:46pm
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I have no idea who those two guys are and don’t really care, but this isn’t the first time Deegan has tried to talk up a...

I have no idea who those two guys are and don’t really care, but this isn’t the first time Deegan has tried to talk up a rivalry. Not real smart as a young rookie.
I hoped after the last time he may have got some different advice and heeded it, obviously not.

Why? Hunter should feel pressure to win. He's supposed to win this title. What's inaccurate about that statement? You all need to make up you're minds. Dunge and RV were robots, we want riders to spice it up! Hey watch your mouth kid!

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CPR wrote:
I have no idea who those two guys are and don’t really care, but this isn’t the first time Deegan has tried to talk up a...

I have no idea who those two guys are and don’t really care, but this isn’t the first time Deegan has tried to talk up a rivalry. Not real smart as a young rookie.
I hoped after the last time he may have got some different advice and heeded it, obviously not.

Why? Hunter should feel pressure to win. He's supposed to win this title. What's inaccurate about that statement? You all need to make up you're minds...

Why? Hunter should feel pressure to win. He's supposed to win this title. What's inaccurate about that statement? You all need to make up you're minds. Dunge and RV were robots, we want riders to spice it up! Hey watch your mouth kid!

What the hell are you talking about?

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colintrax wrote:
They're cut from the same cloth. Difference is Epstein worked for the rich, Tate not so much. And probably why Tate won't take nearly as long...

They're cut from the same cloth. Difference is Epstein worked for the rich, Tate not so much. And probably why Tate won't take nearly as long to lock up.

You’ve got to be kidding me…Right? Anyway, 238 rode great!  

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7/22/2023 7:54pm Edited Date/Time 7/22/2023 7:55pm
soggy wrote:
The deegan strategy of trying to drive a wedge and manufacture a rivalry in between them and the Lawrence’s (aus v American) is going to get...

The deegan strategy of trying to drive a wedge and manufacture a rivalry in between them and the Lawrence’s (aus v American) is going to get annoying real fast. 
 

good ride. 

yep..........noted jett flying the flag on the podium in response to deegan?

mind games no doubt like the hunter comment deegan made.........must be an interesting dynamic in  the STAR 250 team

 

can only assume deegan's team mates wld like to take him out to the woodshed!

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ZinAZ wrote:
they asked about how he did a 2:15 lap late in the race and he said "ive been listening to alot of david goggin and andrew...

they asked about how he did a 2:15 lap late in the race and he said "ive been listening to alot of david goggin and andrew tate"(both guys are known for motivating speeches, talking about pushing through pain etc)...tate is currently being charged with finance related charges, trafficking, and organized crime in romania(hasnt been found guilty yet and otherwise has a clean record).  And he made a lot of money off running a "cam girls" website so a lot of people think he is scum.  I dont know anyone who really hates on goggins, guy is an ex navy seal, and ultra marathon runner.

Yeah I'm familiar with both. Super hard yikes regarding Tate. Hopefully his young impressionable YT audience doesn't look him up.

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7/22/2023 8:05pm
ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

kylemenz1 wrote:

To compare Andrew Tate to Jeffery Epstein is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in real life or internet forms.  

Give me one example of Deegs having a bad head on his shoulder's. I don't care what gets him fired up before the races. He could...

Give me one example of Deegs having a bad head on his shoulder's. I don't care what gets him fired up before the races. He could very easily be ME ME ME on the podium but not he's all about America. That's all I care about  

One example: going after his teammate in a heat race and letting j mart by. 

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7/22/2023 8:39pm Edited Date/Time 7/22/2023 8:40pm
ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

"There is a difference between controversial and criminal."

 

Agreed. And he hasn't been found guilty of anything yet.

 

Problem is this is what the accusation always is with anyone the left doesn't like politically... Jordan Peterson hasn't been arrested  but he's certainly accused of being a racist and a misogynist etc almost constantly. I see no evidence of that with him either. It goes to the highest levels too with Farage recently finding himself without somewhere to bank for purely political reasons. You can only cry wolf so many times.

 

Epstein on the other hand we know was guilty.

 

"....misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos"

 

If they do need their egos inflated it's because young men today face a constant barrage from the left that they're toxic and evil, and basically responsible for all and everything that has ever gone wrong. I don't follow Tate and so have had to retrospectively catch up with what he has said - to me, so far, he just comes across as a loud mouth saying some things I agree with and others I don't - but regardless that is what happens when you condemn a young generation for their sex (and race). They go looking for alternatives elsewhere. 

 

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you guys are flipping out about andrew tate. 

a lot of people think tptb set him up with romania bs. like mainstream a lot of people think he's innocent. if you watch his videos i mean he's pretty brash but a lot of the shit he is saying isn't that far off lol. it's not like he got up there and said he had been worshipping satan or some shit. 

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Yeah, Andrew Tate is the tiktok "alpha male" that is spewing misogynistic bullshitery to every teenage boy at the moment in hope they join his pyramid...

Yeah, Andrew Tate is the tiktok "alpha male" that is spewing misogynistic bullshitery to every teenage boy at the moment in hope they join his pyramid scheme "Hustler's University". He was recently arrested and is currently on trial for rape and human trafficking. 

Yeah it's quite odd. I've heard this before,  that a lot of his audience is teenage boys. I can't see how a dude like Tate would...

Yeah it's quite odd. I've heard this before,  that a lot of his audience is teenage boys. I can't see how a dude like Tate would have appealed to teenage me. Different times I guess 

No it’s different cultures, not different times.

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Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims...

Imagine getting upset at an American rider/kid who just went 1-1 because he listens to someone controversial. Probably the same people who hated the purple rims on the Yamaha's today. He'll send it for USA that's for sure!

ktmdan wrote:
There is a difference between controversial and criminal.    You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is...

There is a difference between controversial and criminal. 
 

You wouldn’t say, I’ve been listening to Jeffery Epstein, on the podium right? This guy is is charged with the same crimes, rape and human trafficking. There are videos of him beating a woman. He is also a savior to thousands of misguided young men who need to inflate their fragile egos. So he is in fact worse than Epstein as far as influence and social effect. 
 

im not mad at Deegan, I’m just bummed that that’s what the kids are into. He’s an uneducated kid who I assume was homeschooled by his dad, another uneducated kid. I could be wrong, maybe Brian didn’t homeschool him, or maybe Brian is even educated. He is really amazing at riding his toy. His last few laps were Stew-esque dare I say. But at the end of the day there are things bigger than that.

 

I hope he can find better role models. 

kylemenz1 wrote:

To compare Andrew Tate to Jeffery Epstein is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in real life or internet forms.  

People will fight reality to make themselves feel better inside, it’s normal in 2023

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7/22/2023 8:56pm Edited Date/Time 7/25/2023 5:42am

You guys will bitch about anything lol. He’s a kid who just went 1-1 and is 3 points back of a title in his rookie season. Shut up and enjoy the ride. 

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7/22/2023 8:56pm
davistld01 wrote:

Danger Deegan has a lot of polishing to do on his style and racecraft before he'll be champion material IMO. 

The deegan fan base will not stand for this slander.

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ktmdan wrote:
It was a good ride, but I lost any kind of respect for the kid when he gave a shoutout to a charged rapist and human...

It was a good ride, but I lost any kind of respect for the kid when he gave a shoutout to a charged rapist and human trafficker, self-proclaimed rapist and woman beater on the podium. And zero respect for Brian because he surely knows what the kid is in to. 

If I were you I would throw all my Deegan posters in the trash right now. 

aeffertz wrote:
I'm not gonna shun the kid because he's just a teenager at the end of the day but that doesn't mean I can't say calling out...

Laughing

I'm not gonna shun the kid because he's just a teenager at the end of the day but that doesn't mean I can't say calling out Andrew Tate on the podium is cringey. He's a teenager so it's whatever but what's more pathetic is the 40+ year-olds on this website going "no but actually Andrew Tate is the top G". 

Well how old are you?

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Absolutely insane to publicly admit you’ve been listening to someone who is being held on house arrest for human trafficking and has been accused of rape. Horrible horrible look. 

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If I were you I would throw all my Deegan posters in the trash right now. 

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I'm not gonna shun the kid because he's just a teenager at the end of the day but that doesn't mean I can't say calling out...

Laughing

I'm not gonna shun the kid because he's just a teenager at the end of the day but that doesn't mean I can't say calling out Andrew Tate on the podium is cringey. He's a teenager so it's whatever but what's more pathetic is the 40+ year-olds on this website going "no but actually Andrew Tate is the top G". 

mx4 wrote:

Well how old are you?

Old enough to see through the “Top G’s” bullshit. 

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Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250 usually needs to be ridden up from 10th.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but maybe in the 450 class absolute power is not as important as they all have enough. 

Cannot be an coincidence that Star 250s usually are among the first if not first. 

Great ride of Deegan anyway! 

 

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Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250...

Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250 usually needs to be ridden up from 10th.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but maybe in the 450 class absolute power is not as important as they all have enough. 

Cannot be an coincidence that Star 250s usually are among the first if not first. 

Great ride of Deegan anyway! 

 

Welcome aboard Gilligan. 

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Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250...

Not taking anything away from Deegan, he is absolutely great but those Star Yamahas give him a great advantage at the start. The poor Honda 250 usually needs to be ridden up from 10th.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but maybe in the 450 class absolute power is not as important as they all have enough. 

Cannot be an coincidence that Star 250s usually are among the first if not first. 

Great ride of Deegan anyway! 

 

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Welcome aboard Gilligan. 

I am aboard Smile  

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