Millville Accident

clem
Posts
363
Joined
6/12/2009
Location
Thibodaux, LA, USA

I'm not 100% sure what happened but I got an email late last night stating that one of  my buddies was injured at Millville on Saturday as a spectator. It just blows my mind that while I was sitting on the couch, enjoying the races, my friend and his family were being evac'd to a hospital in Minnesota. Crazy how fast things can change.

1
|
7/17/2023 9:37am

Not often spectators get injured. Hope he's okay. 

3
Slowride858
Posts
23
Joined
6/24/2021
Location
White Bear Lake, MN, USA
7/17/2023 9:47am

We saw him being transported by the paramedics, and saw the heli come in. I did not witness what happened personally, but I did hear a fair amount of details. Not sure what was all fact, and what was just hearsay. Terrible to hear about crazy things like that happening on what should have been an awesome day at the races. Fingers crossed for your buddy. 

4
7/17/2023 9:56am

Was it a fall or something? Not gonna lie that place is an ADA nightmare with all of the erosion on the hills 

10
danzig138
Posts
501
Joined
2/22/2014
Location
Minneapolis, MN, USA
7/17/2023 10:16am

We talked to some people who saw it, sounds like a hammock was tied to a dead tree and collapsed on the individual

2

The Shop

7/17/2023 10:19am

A friend and I got hit at Southwick by Bryan Swink and or whoever he was crashing with. Back then ( mid to late 90's) the fences were low and everybody was leaning on one in a corner that a berm had built up into. It was a perfect timing of the fence breaking and rider getting aggressive with another rider. I heard the crowd all gasp and saw everybody except me and my friend take a step back, out of the corner of my eye. I was looking the other direction and before I could turn to look at what they were looking at I was on the ground. The fence broke either just before or as a result of being hit .  I think it was Swinks bike that was stuck on a fence post. The crowd lifted it off. From how I remember it, the post either was through the fender , like it put a hole in the rear fender and or it was between the tire and swingarm  somehow.  Looking back, I think it was my first concussion, I was totally out of it for a couple hours . My friends hat had tire marks on it, a perfect knobby pattern.  Ever since that day, I never will be near a track with my back towards oncoming bikes. Even if there is a fence like back then.

Lucky for me and my friend, along with the rest of the crowd, all we had were some small cuts and bruises , and maybe a mild concussion. I hope that everybody involved in whatever happened at Millville comes out OK and the only long lasting effects are a good story to tell.     

4
12
superdak
Posts
3
Joined
12/15/2006
Location
Alexandria, MN, USA
7/17/2023 10:26am

Any word on him? We saw it happen and have been trying to find information since. Truly hope he will be ok it was all my daughter and I could think about. 

clem
Posts
363
Joined
6/12/2009
Location
Thibodaux, LA, USA
7/17/2023 10:28am

I did know that it wasn't race related and a tree was involved but that was the extent of what we know happened. At this point, it's only about the wellbeing of the affected individuals.

lugnut262
Posts
38
Joined
8/9/2019
Location
Rochester, MN, USA
7/17/2023 11:08am

Dead tree fell over onto spectator as said previously. My wife and one of her coworkers (both RN's) were right by and began tending to him immediately after the incident until the helicopter arrived. Not going to speculate on his condition as I do not know the facts, but wish the best for him and his family. Crazy how fast things can happen... 

19
7/17/2023 11:25am

Was it a fall or something? Not gonna lie that place is an ADA nightmare with all of the erosion on the hills 

Do trees need to be ADA compliant? I don’t know of one dirt bike track that is ADA friendly…

3
6
7/17/2023 11:52am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2023 11:58am

Was it a fall or something? Not gonna lie that place is an ADA nightmare with all of the erosion on the hills 

Do trees need to be ADA compliant? I don’t know of one dirt bike track that is ADA friendly…

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for both parties.

6
46
7/17/2023 12:54pm

Was it a fall or something? Not gonna lie that place is an ADA nightmare with all of the erosion on the hills 

Do trees need to be ADA compliant? I don’t know of one dirt bike track that is ADA friendly…

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for...

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for both parties.

Great guys. So we trying to get Millville closed now over a freak accident?

33
8
7/17/2023 2:30pm

Was it a fall or something? Not gonna lie that place is an ADA nightmare with all of the erosion on the hills 

Do trees need to be ADA compliant? I don’t know of one dirt bike track that is ADA friendly…

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for...

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for both parties.

Get rid of Millville and have 2 races at Pala. There’s only one tree at Pala so it’s a pretty safe track. Also maybe put a rollcage on the dirtbikes and 2 more wheels to make them safer too. Actually maybe just don’t allow spectators to bring chairs, ez-ups, water, and definitely not hammocks. Even safer let’s not allow any spectators at the track and just have a livestream for $299.99 each race. Those are my thoughts to keep people safe. 

32
8
7/17/2023 3:00pm

I was sincerely hoping this story would NOT show up on here. As I'm afraid Millville would be taken away from us if this turned into a legal issue. It was a freak accident with no one at fault. I was next to the last uphill double across the track from where the tree fell on the spectator. And honestly we normally stand under those trees during the races, and for some odd reason we didn't this year. I'm hoping the people that got injured are okay and don't sue. And I hope John goes through his property and removes any tree that shows signs of rot or dead limbs.

3
6
OleTex
Posts
658
Joined
7/16/2016
Location
Central, TX, USA
7/17/2023 3:06pm

I hope he’s ok. What a bazaar thing to happen. 

1
1
MXRalph
Posts
369
Joined
11/13/2022
Location
Sacramento, CA, USA
7/17/2023 3:19pm
HonDawg17 wrote:
I was sincerely hoping this story would NOT show up on here. As I'm afraid Millville would be taken away from us if this turned into...

I was sincerely hoping this story would NOT show up on here. As I'm afraid Millville would be taken away from us if this turned into a legal issue. It was a freak accident with no one at fault. I was next to the last uphill double across the track from where the tree fell on the spectator. And honestly we normally stand under those trees during the races, and for some odd reason we didn't this year. I'm hoping the people that got injured are okay and don't sue. And I hope John goes through his property and removes any tree that shows signs of rot or dead limbs.

The shitty thing is that it wouldn't necessarily be the injured spectators that would sue but their insurance company trying to recoup costs. 

10
aeffertz
Posts
12616
Joined
7/16/2015
Location
La Crosse, WI, USA
7/17/2023 3:27pm
lugnut262 wrote:
Dead tree fell over onto spectator as said previously. My wife and one of her coworkers (both RN's) were right by and began tending to him...

Dead tree fell over onto spectator as said previously. My wife and one of her coworkers (both RN's) were right by and began tending to him immediately after the incident until the helicopter arrived. Not going to speculate on his condition as I do not know the facts, but wish the best for him and his family. Crazy how fast things can happen... 

Did this happen during the races or off in the pits somewhere? Surprised it didn’t cause a bit of commotion if a heli had to come in.
 

Fingers crossed for the best possible outcome for everyone involved. 

1
7/17/2023 3:27pm
clem wrote:
I'm not 100% sure what happened but I got an email late last night stating that one of  my buddies was injured at Millville on Saturday...

I'm not 100% sure what happened but I got an email late last night stating that one of  my buddies was injured at Millville on Saturday as a spectator. It just blows my mind that while I was sitting on the couch, enjoying the races, my friend and his family were being evac'd to a hospital in Minnesota. Crazy how fast things can change.

Any update on his condition?

1
7/17/2023 3:30pm

Do trees need to be ADA compliant? I don’t know of one dirt bike track that is ADA friendly…

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for...

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for both parties.

Great guys. So we trying to get Millville closed now over a freak accident?

I should have thought of that, I hope the lawyers dont use my post as evidence, it would be an open and shut case.

1
12
MPJC
Posts
2070
Joined
5/18/2017
Location
CA
Fantasy
7/17/2023 3:33pm

If the tree was dead and the danger it posed could have reasonably been foreseen, then I'm afraid there could be some liability. Sucks, but that's the way things work. A lawsuit to cover medical costs could also result - and bringing a lawsuit wouldn't make anyone a bad person. Just really, really unfortunate for all involved. Would the track owner not have insurance for such things? I have no idea how that works, in terms of exclusions. 

I'm only speaking about the liability issue since others have brought it up. Of course, the health of the injured person should be everyone's main concern. Hope it's not too bad. 

4
6
MPJC
Posts
2070
Joined
5/18/2017
Location
CA
Fantasy
7/17/2023 3:39pm
Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for...

Yes, a dead tree should be spotted by an inspector or the land owner. They have a responsibility to the safety of their guests...bummer situation for both parties.

Great guys. So we trying to get Millville closed now over a freak accident?

I should have thought of that, I hope the lawyers dont use my post as evidence, it would be an open and shut case.

You're post arguably isn't saying the tree was dead; rather, I read it as saying if it was dead, then it should have been spotted. Even if you're saying it's dead, that's likely hearsay.  Still, when in doubt, make your claim hypothetical, not factual. 

1
3
gerg
Posts
1538
Joined
10/29/2014
Location
AU
7/17/2023 3:45pm

Literally news just dropped that someone is in pretty bad shape after an accident at Millville and half the posts are more about the track closing from litigation.

Whether that happens or not, maybe focus on the persons well being right now.

OP hope your friend is doing okay.

37
1
clem
Posts
363
Joined
6/12/2009
Location
Thibodaux, LA, USA
7/17/2023 3:50pm
motoxxx599 wrote:

Any update on his condition?

It's an injury to the C7, 10 hour surgery last night and is recovering with his family. His son is okay, in a walking boot but shook up about the events on Saturday. I know that's got to be tough to witness as a kid.

Thanks for the concern, I know his family appreciates it.

57
7/17/2023 3:52pm

Great guys. So we trying to get Millville closed now over a freak accident?

I should have thought of that, I hope the lawyers dont use my post as evidence, it would be an open and shut case.

MPJC wrote:
You're post arguably isn't saying the tree was dead; rather, I read it as saying if it was dead, then it should have been spotted. Even...

You're post arguably isn't saying the tree was dead; rather, I read it as saying if it was dead, then it should have been spotted. Even if you're saying it's dead, that's likely hearsay.  Still, when in doubt, make your claim hypothetical, not factual. 

It was about are trees being ADA compliant. Healthy tree-compliant, dead tree not compliant. That's all

28
Zycki11
Posts
7814
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
7/17/2023 3:53pm

Hope your buddy is doing ok OP... Keep us posted when you can and for everyone else.  STFU unless about his buddy

3
2
ando
Posts
4468
Joined
8/20/2009
Location
Perth, AU
7/17/2023 4:07pm

What’s ADA?

2
DonM
Posts
8676
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
Fantasy
7/17/2023 4:30pm

I should have thought of that, I hope the lawyers dont use my post as evidence, it would be an open and shut case.

MPJC wrote:
You're post arguably isn't saying the tree was dead; rather, I read it as saying if it was dead, then it should have been spotted. Even...

You're post arguably isn't saying the tree was dead; rather, I read it as saying if it was dead, then it should have been spotted. Even if you're saying it's dead, that's likely hearsay.  Still, when in doubt, make your claim hypothetical, not factual. 

It was about are trees being ADA compliant. Healthy tree-compliant, dead tree not compliant. That's all

How about a little compassion for those that were injured instead of trying to be a smartass.....I hope everyone fully recovers I hate to hear about spectators getting hurt.

6
2
1911
Posts
4972
Joined
4/2/2008
Location
LAS VEGAS, NV, USA
7/17/2023 5:01pm
ando wrote:

What’s ADA?

Americans with Disabilities Act 

BBA
Posts
260
Joined
3/6/2011
Location
somewhere, NC, USA
7/17/2023 5:48pm
ando wrote:

What’s ADA?

1911 wrote:

Americans with Disabilities Act 

I would like to know more about the facts leading up to the accident. Did your buddy tie a hammock up to a knowingly dead tree? This sounds like a freak accident but details on what caused it may be very important in the near future. I hope your buddy has a full recovery and back on his feet as quickly as possible.

 

For anyone that does not know about the ADA you should look up just how many fun locations have been shut down from it and the mega number of frivolous lawsuits it has created. 

2
12
7/17/2023 7:15pm

In all seriousness I hope the person injured is okay. Sounds like a freak accident.  You never know when a tree will fall. I’ve seen multiple trees fall out of the blue and damage homes, cars, and even kill people. Even skilled Arborists cannot tell how well a root system will hold a tree without major intervention. And that’s impossible to do to every tree at a large facility. Some dead trees will stand for a 100 years, and some large healthy trees will fall for no reason. 

5
OR Racer46
Posts
1375
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR, USA
7/17/2023 7:35pm

Who the hell brings a Hammock to a Motocross race  ?        Best wishes to the family effected 

2
12

Post a reply to: Millville Accident

The Latest