Breakthrough for Paraplegics

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5/24/2023 12:02pm

That's amazing. 

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seems non-moto to me 

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enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

            WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU. ?

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enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

Absolutely Fuck you

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seems non-moto to me 

Kys

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5/24/2023 4:38pm

Having several friends that have spent many years in a chair, I think this is HUGE. 

So many motocross riders have had their freedom of being able to walk, taken away.
I can’t imagine how this must give some a bit of hope. 

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5/24/2023 5:00pm
enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

Yes, you do.

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Bypasses the injured site … that is AMAZING!!!

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Seriously awesome

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Appears to be an amazing “step” in the right direction!  Hope it progresses further.

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I'm almost 66 yrs old and that is one of many things I was hoping I would see the day when they had that figured out. Appears they are well on their way. Awesome news.

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Wow...  This seems like it's got massive potential.

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5/24/2023 5:39pm
enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

Come on man, what kind of a small minded adolescent do you need to be to make such an uncouth comment like that.

IMG 8344

 

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5/24/2023 10:27pm

...and this is just the beginning.    How very cool.

 

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5/24/2023 10:31pm

I would've thought it's a breakthrough for Quadriplegics as well haha aaah I'm just messin with ya.. But yeah this technology has really shown promise! I'd be happy with just a bit more hand function

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5/24/2023 10:55pm Edited Date/Time 5/24/2023 10:55pm
enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

            WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU. ?

Lol. 
 

Amazing technology

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5/25/2023 12:16am Edited Date/Time 5/25/2023 9:30am

Let's give the guy a break. You're allowed a few freebies here. 

I have chronic deficits from my own SCI. Burst fracture L2. Fortunately those are 'minor'. I have full motor control. Can walk. Run. Ride. Really anything I want. Sensation-only. I'm beyond super lucky. I can't possibly imagine what Scottie, Jessy, Moreau, Schellenberger, Daubitz, Mitch and so many others live with every day. Scottie, especially. If only this had come along a year back. Would he have found it worth continuing the fight? 

I'll be following this closely. With Moore's Law and the rate that AI is progressing, I can foresee this type of therapy reaching critical mass. Sooner rather than later. Let's hope.

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I'm almost 66 yrs old and that is one of many things I was hoping I would see the day when they had that figured out...

I'm almost 66 yrs old and that is one of many things I was hoping I would see the day when they had that figured out. Appears they are well on their way. Awesome news.

Dude. We're contemporaries!. (Don't tell anybody).

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enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

I don't take any offense to your comment as you likely are just not very aware how vital (no pun intended) this is to the moto community. Unfortunately, paralysis is a very common injury in this sport with several members of this board being paralyzed from MX including myself, not to mention some higher profile names such as Mitch Payton, David Bailey, Doug Henry, Ricky James, James Marshall, Jessy Nelson, etc. 

I'm happy to see some major developments are being made in treating paralysis but the truth is we're still far away from a practical solution. I hate to be the negative Nancy here but in the 22 years I've been paralyzed I've seen/heard many "miracle" stories of people walking again from some experimental treatment but they always meet a dead end.  The truth is paralysis isn't a major issue in the world. Take for example Cancer....20 years ago if you were diagnosed with nearly any form of cancer it was virtually a death sentence. Today you have a significant chance of survival even with the most severe cases. Cancer has it's own month and several major charities which have made huge strides in treatments and cures. You simply don't see the same "awareness" for paralysis. 

I'm nearly 35 years old, paralyzed for 22 of them, I have a full time job with a wife, bills, and virtually living paycheck to paycheck. I have no chance in this treatment as it stands. I can't afford to have multiple surgeries implanting devices in my skull and spine along with years of intense physical therapy.  I was injured at 12 yrs old and believe me I spent several years of non-stop physical therapy, experimental surgeries & treatments, stem cell injections, everything possible but nothing worked. I was only able to do it because I was so young with no responsibilities and my parents paid for everything out of pocket since insurance absolutely will NOT cover any of these type of treatments since they aren't fully FDA approved.  These kind of procedures are all out of pocket. 

What blows my mind is knowing how someday, eventually, curing paralysis will be as simple as fixing a broken arm. Like how 100 years ago if you got the flu you had a 50/50 chance of dying but now you just take some medicine and a few days off work. Maybe not in my lifetime but it's great to see some progress is still being made and getting closer to ending this horrible injury.  

 

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enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

ProKawi24 wrote:
I don't take any offense to your comment as you likely are just not very aware how vital (no pun intended) this is to the moto...

I don't take any offense to your comment as you likely are just not very aware how vital (no pun intended) this is to the moto community. Unfortunately, paralysis is a very common injury in this sport with several members of this board being paralyzed from MX including myself, not to mention some higher profile names such as Mitch Payton, David Bailey, Doug Henry, Ricky James, James Marshall, Jessy Nelson, etc. 

I'm happy to see some major developments are being made in treating paralysis but the truth is we're still far away from a practical solution. I hate to be the negative Nancy here but in the 22 years I've been paralyzed I've seen/heard many "miracle" stories of people walking again from some experimental treatment but they always meet a dead end.  The truth is paralysis isn't a major issue in the world. Take for example Cancer....20 years ago if you were diagnosed with nearly any form of cancer it was virtually a death sentence. Today you have a significant chance of survival even with the most severe cases. Cancer has it's own month and several major charities which have made huge strides in treatments and cures. You simply don't see the same "awareness" for paralysis. 

I'm nearly 35 years old, paralyzed for 22 of them, I have a full time job with a wife, bills, and virtually living paycheck to paycheck. I have no chance in this treatment as it stands. I can't afford to have multiple surgeries implanting devices in my skull and spine along with years of intense physical therapy.  I was injured at 12 yrs old and believe me I spent several years of non-stop physical therapy, experimental surgeries & treatments, stem cell injections, everything possible but nothing worked. I was only able to do it because I was so young with no responsibilities and my parents paid for everything out of pocket since insurance absolutely will NOT cover any of these type of treatments since they aren't fully FDA approved.  These kind of procedures are all out of pocket. 

What blows my mind is knowing how someday, eventually, curing paralysis will be as simple as fixing a broken arm. Like how 100 years ago if you got the flu you had a 50/50 chance of dying but now you just take some medicine and a few days off work. Maybe not in my lifetime but it's great to see some progress is still being made and getting closer to ending this horrible injury.  

 

I was interested in hearing your take as soon as I saw what the thread was about.

It's pretty bleak that so little attention is given to it, but we can only hope stuff like this continues making progress.

All the best and thanks for the real world, experienced opinion on it man 👍

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Let's give the guy a break. You're allowed a few freebies here.  I have chronic deficits from my own SCI. Burst fracture L2. Fortunately those are...

Let's give the guy a break. You're allowed a few freebies here. 

I have chronic deficits from my own SCI. Burst fracture L2. Fortunately those are 'minor'. I have full motor control. Can walk. Run. Ride. Really anything I want. Sensation-only. I'm beyond super lucky. I can't possibly imagine what Scottie, Jessy, Moreau, Schellenberger, Daubitz, Mitch and so many others live with every day. Scottie, especially. If only this had come along a year back. Would he have found it worth continuing the fight? 

I'll be following this closely. With Moore's Law and the rate that AI is progressing, I can foresee this type of therapy reaching critical mass. Sooner rather than later. Let's hope.

Scottie was in a lot of physical pain. Being in a chair for so long took it's toll. Even having a chance to walk he would still of had many issues to deal with and he reached his breaking point. It's not just the ability to walk, it's also not having bowel & bladder control. As much as we would absolutely love to just walk again, being a grown man and shitting or pissing your pants in public is beyond embarrassing and humiliating. After 22 years my shoulders are torn to shreds and Scottie was in a chair longer than me and his were much worse. I miss and think about him all the time but unfortunately we are still too far behind the curve for a solid cure but this is major progress and moving things in the right direction.  It breaks my heart anytime I hear of someone else ending up in a chair knowing the Hell they're about to go through but eventually one day I truly believe there will be a cure. 

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5/25/2023 1:25am
ProKawi24 wrote:
Scottie was in a lot of physical pain. Being in a chair for so long took it's toll. Even having a chance to walk he would...

Scottie was in a lot of physical pain. Being in a chair for so long took it's toll. Even having a chance to walk he would still of had many issues to deal with and he reached his breaking point. It's not just the ability to walk, it's also not having bowel & bladder control. As much as we would absolutely love to just walk again, being a grown man and shitting or pissing your pants in public is beyond embarrassing and humiliating. After 22 years my shoulders are torn to shreds and Scottie was in a chair longer than me and his were much worse. I miss and think about him all the time but unfortunately we are still too far behind the curve for a solid cure but this is major progress and moving things in the right direction.  It breaks my heart anytime I hear of someone else ending up in a chair knowing the Hell they're about to go through but eventually one day I truly believe there will be a cure. 

              ProKawi24, I truly have not one iota of an idea of how it feels to live with your tragic injury. I am not a religious man, but to you, and to all of the other men and women dealing with these medical conditions I offer my heartfelt prayers and well wishes. Keep kicking Ass !

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5/25/2023 1:30am
ProKawi24 wrote:
Scottie was in a lot of physical pain. Being in a chair for so long took it's toll. Even having a chance to walk he would...

Scottie was in a lot of physical pain. Being in a chair for so long took it's toll. Even having a chance to walk he would still of had many issues to deal with and he reached his breaking point. It's not just the ability to walk, it's also not having bowel & bladder control. As much as we would absolutely love to just walk again, being a grown man and shitting or pissing your pants in public is beyond embarrassing and humiliating. After 22 years my shoulders are torn to shreds and Scottie was in a chair longer than me and his were much worse. I miss and think about him all the time but unfortunately we are still too far behind the curve for a solid cure but this is major progress and moving things in the right direction.  It breaks my heart anytime I hear of someone else ending up in a chair knowing the Hell they're about to go through but eventually one day I truly believe there will be a cure. 

I know people think I'm an a-hole and I don't know you in person. But I have to say I greatly admire the way you deal with the cards that you were delt. It's extremely impressive. That's all. Props brother.

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5/25/2023 3:55am Edited Date/Time 5/25/2023 3:56am
enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

ProKawi24 wrote:
I don't take any offense to your comment as you likely are just not very aware how vital (no pun intended) this is to the moto...

I don't take any offense to your comment as you likely are just not very aware how vital (no pun intended) this is to the moto community. Unfortunately, paralysis is a very common injury in this sport with several members of this board being paralyzed from MX including myself, not to mention some higher profile names such as Mitch Payton, David Bailey, Doug Henry, Ricky James, James Marshall, Jessy Nelson, etc. 

I'm happy to see some major developments are being made in treating paralysis but the truth is we're still far away from a practical solution. I hate to be the negative Nancy here but in the 22 years I've been paralyzed I've seen/heard many "miracle" stories of people walking again from some experimental treatment but they always meet a dead end.  The truth is paralysis isn't a major issue in the world. Take for example Cancer....20 years ago if you were diagnosed with nearly any form of cancer it was virtually a death sentence. Today you have a significant chance of survival even with the most severe cases. Cancer has it's own month and several major charities which have made huge strides in treatments and cures. You simply don't see the same "awareness" for paralysis. 

I'm nearly 35 years old, paralyzed for 22 of them, I have a full time job with a wife, bills, and virtually living paycheck to paycheck. I have no chance in this treatment as it stands. I can't afford to have multiple surgeries implanting devices in my skull and spine along with years of intense physical therapy.  I was injured at 12 yrs old and believe me I spent several years of non-stop physical therapy, experimental surgeries & treatments, stem cell injections, everything possible but nothing worked. I was only able to do it because I was so young with no responsibilities and my parents paid for everything out of pocket since insurance absolutely will NOT cover any of these type of treatments since they aren't fully FDA approved.  These kind of procedures are all out of pocket. 

What blows my mind is knowing how someday, eventually, curing paralysis will be as simple as fixing a broken arm. Like how 100 years ago if you got the flu you had a 50/50 chance of dying but now you just take some medicine and a few days off work. Maybe not in my lifetime but it's great to see some progress is still being made and getting closer to ending this horrible injury.  

 

Thank you for your honesty and input. I followed Jessy's injury from the day it happened and tried to donate as much and often as possible to help him through his accident. What I have witnessed from locals whose mobility were taken from them by this sport and from reading post like yours is that it's seemingly such a mental battle to overcome this type of injury. I have absolutely no injuries even close to compare to but to me you guys are so mentally tough to achieve what you have through a very harsh situation. I do not type this as a post of sorry but as a post of admiration and respect of your ability to overcome and adapt. 

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For me it seems to be another great way to have a "walking-therapy", like the Exoscelett does.

I'm 47 and half of my life paralized from my neck down. 

Saying that, i'm dealing with all the "bad" stuff, a disabled person does sometimes, but foremost i'm living a happy life, working for a great company(where the pumpkins come from), having a loved wife and since last year even driving my own car.

I'd say, i'm living a great, pretty "normal" life, without hoping everyday for a "cure". If there's someting around  the corner- i'm ready, still working hard to stay in shape.

But that's just MY way..

Great technology!

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5/25/2023 4:52am
enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

ProKawi24 wrote:
I don't take any offense to your comment as you likely are just not very aware how vital (no pun intended) this is to the moto...

I don't take any offense to your comment as you likely are just not very aware how vital (no pun intended) this is to the moto community. Unfortunately, paralysis is a very common injury in this sport with several members of this board being paralyzed from MX including myself, not to mention some higher profile names such as Mitch Payton, David Bailey, Doug Henry, Ricky James, James Marshall, Jessy Nelson, etc. 

I'm happy to see some major developments are being made in treating paralysis but the truth is we're still far away from a practical solution. I hate to be the negative Nancy here but in the 22 years I've been paralyzed I've seen/heard many "miracle" stories of people walking again from some experimental treatment but they always meet a dead end.  The truth is paralysis isn't a major issue in the world. Take for example Cancer....20 years ago if you were diagnosed with nearly any form of cancer it was virtually a death sentence. Today you have a significant chance of survival even with the most severe cases. Cancer has it's own month and several major charities which have made huge strides in treatments and cures. You simply don't see the same "awareness" for paralysis. 

I'm nearly 35 years old, paralyzed for 22 of them, I have a full time job with a wife, bills, and virtually living paycheck to paycheck. I have no chance in this treatment as it stands. I can't afford to have multiple surgeries implanting devices in my skull and spine along with years of intense physical therapy.  I was injured at 12 yrs old and believe me I spent several years of non-stop physical therapy, experimental surgeries & treatments, stem cell injections, everything possible but nothing worked. I was only able to do it because I was so young with no responsibilities and my parents paid for everything out of pocket since insurance absolutely will NOT cover any of these type of treatments since they aren't fully FDA approved.  These kind of procedures are all out of pocket. 

What blows my mind is knowing how someday, eventually, curing paralysis will be as simple as fixing a broken arm. Like how 100 years ago if you got the flu you had a 50/50 chance of dying but now you just take some medicine and a few days off work. Maybe not in my lifetime but it's great to see some progress is still being made and getting closer to ending this horrible injury.  

 

Well said! 19 years as a quad here. I can careless if I ever walk and know whatever they come up with won’t be for us long time chair guys but hope one day it’s cured like a normal broken bone. 

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5/25/2023 5:57am
enketchum wrote:

seems non-moto to me 

            WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU. ?

Maybe he has had too many concussions . Maybe too many drugs. Maybe a mental illness. Maybe his wife just left him. Maybe Joe's facing bankruptcy.  Maybe he's also paralyzed. Maybe there really is something wrong with him..........or maybe he's  just a dipshit. Everybody has a story

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I would hope (and pray) that they are further down the road than it looks - hoping that this ‘breakthrough’ is only now out in the open after rigorous checks to confirm it works.

I suspect sadly there will be a never ending queue of volunteers in the future.

To anyone that is dealing with any type of paralysis I take my hat off to your mental courage to keep pushing every new day.

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Having several friends that have spent many years in a chair, I think this is HUGE.  So many motocross riders have had their freedom of being...

Having several friends that have spent many years in a chair, I think this is HUGE. 

So many motocross riders have had their freedom of being able to walk, taken away.
I can’t imagine how this must give some a bit of hope. 

I am one of them, this seems absolutely awesome. I’m am in the middle of figuring out how to get 30k for stem cell. I was paralyzed in March of 2020 and I have recently gotten feeling down to my calves and small hip flexer motor movement. My fiancé was crying last night as I did it 

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