Riders getting a bit soft

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Edited Date/Time 5/14/2023 12:32pm

The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are becoming more soft? Pulling off after a niggle? Knowing they will be well taken care off and won’t get roused at? 

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No. 

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5/13/2023 11:25pm

With Kenny you never know but no they aren't getting softer it's the same.

Look at Herlings getting landed on, look at Webb I know I'm missing more.

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5/14/2023 3:24am

Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of 7-10 years.

Whether that affects riders (or teams) or not, remains to be seen.

Stay sharp, be true, and have fun.

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5/14/2023 3:34am
js256 wrote:
The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are...

The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are becoming more soft? Pulling off after a niggle? Knowing they will be well taken care off and won’t get roused at? 

Why don’t you just say straight out what you mean?

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5/14/2023 3:43am
ShipLap wrote:
Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of...

Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of 7-10 years.

Whether that affects riders (or teams) or not, remains to be seen.

Stay sharp, be true, and have fun.

The norming of male sportsmen publicly sobbing is unedifying.

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EvelMX11
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5/14/2023 3:47am

you remember feelings, right?

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5/14/2023 3:57am

Criticising a man for showing emotion or being what you deem ‘soft’, says more about you than it does about them.

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5/14/2023 4:06am

They are still tough guys, but people in general and pro athletes are less tough then they use to be.

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5/14/2023 5:07am
ShipLap wrote:
Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of...

Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of 7-10 years.

Whether that affects riders (or teams) or not, remains to be seen.

Stay sharp, be true, and have fun.

Goldmember wrote:

The norming of male sportsmen publicly sobbing is unedifying.

On today’s episode of insecure vital members 

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5/14/2023 5:08am
Spoonguy wrote:

They are still tough guys, but people in general and pro athletes are less tough then they use to be.

As a generality, yes.  People are getting softer.  Pro athletes are getting softer.  Pro MX/SX guys are still pretty much bad-asses far above the mainstream.

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5/14/2023 5:10am

Had to google niggle. I’ll be adding that to the vernacular. 

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js256 wrote:
The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are...

The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are becoming more soft? Pulling off after a niggle? Knowing they will be well taken care off and won’t get roused at? 

Your first sentence answers your second.

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5/14/2023 5:42am

No riders are getting a bit hurt, not getting soft….

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ShipLap wrote:
Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of...

Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of 7-10 years.

Whether that affects riders (or teams) or not, remains to be seen.

Stay sharp, be true, and have fun.

Goldmember wrote:

The norming of male sportsmen publicly sobbing is unedifying.

Yalls insecurities are just hanging out in the open right now.

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5/14/2023 5:52am
Spoonguy wrote:

They are still tough guys, but people in general and pro athletes are less tough then they use to be.

TerryB wrote:

As a generality, yes.  People are getting softer.  Pro athletes are getting softer.  Pro MX/SX guys are still pretty much bad-asses far above the mainstream.

NHL players too. Last month a guy on the Winnipeg Jets took a skate to the face. Went to the locker room for 75 stitches then finished the game!

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5/14/2023 6:44am

Not knowing specifically what situation you’re speaking of, we have a lot more information about CTE, so that has to weigh on riders when they sustain a concussion. What are the consequences 20 or 30 years down the road? To say nothing of the physical pounding that comes from the practice, training and racing itself. The riders have to weigh the cost themselves.
I do believe that western society overall is different, probably softer is the best term. Many of us haven’t been tempered by hardship. Case in point, when kids are doing end of year testing in public schools, the halls are off-limits, and they don’t even cut the grass outside for fear of distracting the students. The same kids will study with music or the tv on, then when they do poorly on the tests, the parents will blame the school for not providing an atmosphere conducive to test taking. So I guess softer is the best word.

 

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5/14/2023 8:02am
js256 wrote:
The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are...

The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are becoming more soft? Pulling off after a niggle? Knowing they will be well taken care off and won’t get roused at? 

Soft like how you tiptoed this post? No, they aren't.

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5/14/2023 8:07am Edited Date/Time 5/14/2023 8:07am

I don’t think Ken is being soft. I mean you saw his injury in 17 yea? Kens never had a knee injury..I’m assuming he thought he did some major damage to his knee to pull off. I mean 3rd in the points was up for grabs…aka more $$$$

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5/14/2023 8:10am

I don't know, are they?

 

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5/14/2023 8:28am Edited Date/Time 5/14/2023 8:28am
Peabody59 wrote:
Not knowing specifically what situation you’re speaking of, we have a lot more information about CTE, so that has to weigh on riders when they sustain...

Not knowing specifically what situation you’re speaking of, we have a lot more information about CTE, so that has to weigh on riders when they sustain a concussion. What are the consequences 20 or 30 years down the road? To say nothing of the physical pounding that comes from the practice, training and racing itself. The riders have to weigh the cost themselves.
I do believe that western society overall is different, probably softer is the best term. Many of us haven’t been tempered by hardship. Case in point, when kids are doing end of year testing in public schools, the halls are off-limits, and they don’t even cut the grass outside for fear of distracting the students. The same kids will study with music or the tv on, then when they do poorly on the tests, the parents will blame the school for not providing an atmosphere conducive to test taking. So I guess softer is the best word.

 

Your whole second paragraph is an oddly-specific hypothetical that you’re presenting as fact to generalize the entire current generation as soft, lol

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5/14/2023 8:41am
ShipLap wrote:
Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of...

Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of 7-10 years.

Whether that affects riders (or teams) or not, remains to be seen.

Stay sharp, be true, and have fun.

Covid was a perfect example. Your spot on.

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5/14/2023 8:47am

There's a pill for that problem.   little, blue...

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5/14/2023 8:47am
ShipLap wrote:
Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of...

Western culture is becoming weaker (or softer).  Huge societal shifts that used to take one hundred years or more are now occurring in the space of 7-10 years.

Whether that affects riders (or teams) or not, remains to be seen.

Stay sharp, be true, and have fun.

Covid was a perfect example. Your spot on.

You’re…

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Peabody59
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5/14/2023 8:56am
Peabody59 wrote:
Not knowing specifically what situation you’re speaking of, we have a lot more information about CTE, so that has to weigh on riders when they sustain...

Not knowing specifically what situation you’re speaking of, we have a lot more information about CTE, so that has to weigh on riders when they sustain a concussion. What are the consequences 20 or 30 years down the road? To say nothing of the physical pounding that comes from the practice, training and racing itself. The riders have to weigh the cost themselves.
I do believe that western society overall is different, probably softer is the best term. Many of us haven’t been tempered by hardship. Case in point, when kids are doing end of year testing in public schools, the halls are off-limits, and they don’t even cut the grass outside for fear of distracting the students. The same kids will study with music or the tv on, then when they do poorly on the tests, the parents will blame the school for not providing an atmosphere conducive to test taking. So I guess softer is the best word.

 

Your whole second paragraph is an oddly-specific hypothetical that you’re presenting as fact to generalize the entire current generation as soft, lol

Now I’ve confused myself. Is that a sign of softness? Crap! This didn’t go as planned.

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5/14/2023 12:22pm

I don't know.  MXers, even as kids, break body parts, then return to the sport.  That's pretty freaking tough if you ask me.

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5/14/2023 12:39pm
js256 wrote:
The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are...

The teams are doing a great job protecting their riders and steering them towards healthier and more sustainable mindsets. But is there a chance riders are becoming more soft? Pulling off after a niggle? Knowing they will be well taken care off and won’t get roused at? 

No, I don't think so...but there's little doubt that message board posters are getting more critical, without all that pesky critical thinking before hitting the submit button

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