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Is it too much to ask to put a little dirt next to the jumps? These guys crash off the track and land directly on freaking concrete and plywood. The tracks are extremely thin so theres hardly any margin of error for these guys to make a mistake without getting obliterated. A lot of the crashes that arent even that bad end up a lot worse by landing on a completely solid surface. Then when it is a bad crash forget about it. I guarantee its a cost saving measure because it always is, but these guys safety shouldnt be sacrificed over a couple loads of dirt…
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I was thinking the same thing after Anderson's heat race crash.
it isn't just a little bit of dirt.
to add another 15' to 25' of dirt around the outside edge would be a considerable amount of dirt and would not necessarily make it that much better to crash on.
it would have to be thick enough to compact and stick together or it would be more unpredictable to ride on than the concrete or plywood.
The extra dirt you're wishing would be on the side of the track would be better put on the track itself. They'd be better off putting cushions or pads on the outskirts of the track vs dirt if you're trying to prevent injuries on off track incidents.
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Might have something to do with clean up as well? Back dragging vs more hand work possibly? Not a lot of time to do what they do and throw in the variable of weather.
It would be approximately 10 loads of dirt
Something like this would help a lot.
show your math
Closer to 100 than 10.
10’ wide by approximately 1320’ long with is usually the perimeter length of a football field, 4” thick.
10x1320x0.33/27=161cy. 18 yards to a truck. 10 loads.
The fact you think 4" is enough shows your inability to have any credibility in this discussion. And maybe another discussion as well 😉
So 20 loads then? You want 8" thick of dirt for them to crash on?
I have no clue, other than no way is 4" enough to make a difference. I agree it's a problem, I was just making a very amateur observation about the 4" of dirt.
Ok, but i dont think 10' is enough, and your linear feet is more than i did in my head. I just figured 2 football field lengths plus 2 half fields for the width, so 900'
900' x 20' x .5 = 900 cubic feet ÷ 27 = 333.3 cubic yards ÷ 18 yards/load = 18.5 loads
I was figuring an average of 20' wide and 6" thick. I do not think you would ever get it to not pull apart and shift any thinner than that without compacting it, and if you compact it then you are increasing the expense even more while minimizing the advantage of it over the surfaces you are trying to improve on.
If only there was some kind of impact absorbing protective gear available for racers to wear.
Not that 8" is enough or your math correct but you are already @ 40 loads by the time you get the dirt out.
I do this for a living. 4” thick is plenty. Just need a layer around the track so these guys don’t slip and slid. 15 trucks could do most areas that needed it.
I’d honestly be surprised if the base layer is more than 12”
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Lol. It would be a lot more then that.
We should all pitch in on some 'my Pillow' to help them out! I think theyre on sale.
Even a mat like they use for the floor routines in gymnastics would be a welcome addition. Just something softer which doesn't leave splinters would reduce some minor injury.
Like everything involved, however, it is not the cheapest way to go.
Cubic yard translated to square yards at “X” depth?
You want to slow the speed while running off the track and soften the blow... use cushion sand.
They cannot put dirt around the edges of the track as these are safety lanes for equipment/crew/emergency personnel to travel around the track. For example, if they put dirt down and it rains, the Alpinestars mule could potentially get stuck in the mud. The plywood is not shipped from round to round. It is sourced locally and is put down on the stadium floor by local crews that each stadium hires for the weekend. Putting another material (like rubber mat) down on top of the wood sheets will increase costs and add more time to the build/break down of the track which they’re already short on.
Stack some tyres around it..
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