FOX MX | Ricky Carmichael - The Greatest of All Time

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There’s no argument: Ricky Carmichael is the Greatest of All Time. His legendary battles, undefeated seasons, and iconic Fox Racing graphics are burned into our collective memories. The GOAT Special Edition Collection reinvents three Ricky Carmichael Replica kits, handpicked by RC himself to honor significant moments from his career. To Ricky, these graphics have “more meaning than just racing.”

The second graphic in the collection—known as Strafer—commemorates his back-from-injury, 2004 Pro Motocross Championship-winning season. It was the first year the #4 number plate was bolted to a “thumper”, and we got a real taste of 4-stroke racing at tracks like Kenworthy’s Motocross Park in Troy, Ohio. If that doesn’t jog your memory, how about RC’s 100th win at Budds Creek, or claiming another undefeated season? That’s 24 outdoor motocross wins following an ACL injury, and that wasn’t even his plan. Just another reason why RC is the Greatest of All Time.

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We truly do have one of the few sports in which there is 0 debate. I’m fortunate enough to have gotten to watch and remember his entire career vividly.

The only one who maybe could have come close to making it an argument was Villopoto. He was basically Carmichael with injuries. Which is of course another amazing thing. The speed Carmichael went his entire career and only missed 04 SX due to injury.

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One of my favorite gear lines of all time

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I am so glad I got to witness his career, such a fierce competitor and now looking back he is so grateful and well spoken.

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Beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Greatest Of All Time!  Not only for his racing career, but for how much he has given back to the sport and continues to give to this sport that we love.

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Loved the vertigo gear.  My youngest used the jersey as his keeper jersey when he was playing soccer.

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Does anyone have a photo of his foot from the practice crash. I remember seeing a photo online at the time and the thing was black, purple and the size of a football. It was crazy! 
 

here’s the crash. https://youtu.be/eF33k8yqz9Q

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Does anyone have a photo of his foot from the practice crash. I remember seeing a photo online at the time and the thing was black...

Does anyone have a photo of his foot from the practice crash. I remember seeing a photo online at the time and the thing was black, purple and the size of a football. It was crazy! 
 

here’s the crash. https://youtu.be/eF33k8yqz9Q

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Going 24-0 for the 2nd time then going 12-0 (22-2) the very next year is just next level. 
 

sick in the head

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grrr


"GRRRR!!!"

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Going 24-0 for the 2nd time then going 12-0 (22-2) the very next year is just next level. 
 

sick in the head

This!

 

Think about the mental strength just to not F that up getting down to the last few Moto's!  RC = no headcase!

 

RC was an incredible racer!

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Going 24-0 for the 2nd time then going 12-0 (22-2) the very next year is just next level. 
 

sick in the head

Just talking MX, but am I right in thinking he only lost one overall between 02 and mid 06?

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Just talking MX, but am I right in thinking he only lost one overall between 02 and mid 06?

Windham beat him twice in 2003. 

James beat him 3 times in 2006. 

RC won everything else. 

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RC in the 04 MX season was the most dominant display of racing we have ever seen. He Led all but 12 or 13 laps in the entire season, his avg margin of victory was over 20 seconds a moto and this was after he would cruise the last 2 laps and on top of this Reed and Windham were in the prime of their careers after RC sat out the the entire SX season. 
 

This was probably the only time in RCs career he was clearly on the best bike and this is what happened. 

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Just talking MX, but am I right in thinking he only lost one overall between 02 and mid 06?

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Windham beat him twice in 2003. 

James beat him 3 times in 2006. 

RC won everything else. 

I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were all because they were on four strokes and RC was not in 2003.

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RC also led something like 370 of 382 laps in 04

 

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I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were...

I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were all because they were on four strokes and RC was not in 2003.

Kevin went 1-1 in 2001 at Washougal too.  I could swear tortelli won a few races in 2000 and 2001 as well.

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Park Boys wrote:
I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were...

I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were all because they were on four strokes and RC was not in 2003.

Flatliner wrote:

Kevin went 1-1 in 2001 at Washougal too.  I could swear tortelli won a few races in 2000 and 2001 as well.

In 2000 and 01 he was beat quite a few times, after that no. He won 16 of the 23 250/450 MX races he entered. What’s crazy is that 16 out of 23 for anyone else is amazing. For RC it was his “weak” time. 

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"GRRRR!!!"

grrr


"GRRRR!!!"

Watching him and James in 05 and 06 was amazing! It looked like the rest of the class was in a different class. Like watching 2 top local pros go out in the B class. It was amazing to see them battle at Highpoint.   I went to many of the Outdoor races that RC did and got to see a lot of amazing rides.  I wish I was at Millville when he lapped second place.  It  was amazing how much faster he was than everybody. James was close for half the moto. But one of the years  RC won one of the Motos  by over a minute, and James was second by over a minute ahead of Windham in 3rd.  They must have been pretty close to lapping KW. KW was pretty pissed off when I saw him latter on in the pits.

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Park Boys wrote:
I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were...

I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were all because they were on four strokes and RC was not in 2003.

Flatliner wrote:

Kevin went 1-1 in 2001 at Washougal too.  I could swear tortelli won a few races in 2000 and 2001 as well.

Vuillemin won two races in 2000 and one in 2001. 

Tortelli won a race in 2000 and 2001.

Windham won a race in 2001.

Posted the following in a different thread.

Only guys who beat RC outdoors are:

Kevin Windham (1996 1x, 1997 3x, 2001 1x, 2003 2x)
Scott Sheak (1997 1x)
Damon Huffman (1997 1x)
Steve Lamson (1998 1x)
John Dowd (1998 2x)
Robbie Reynard (1998 1x)
Tallon Vohland (1999 1x)
Brock Sellards (1999 1x)
Nic Wey (1999 1x)
David Vuillemin (2000 2x, 2001 1x)
Sebastien Tortelli (2000 1x, 2001 1x)
Tim Ferry (2001 1x)
James Stewart (2006 3x)

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Does anyone know why Woody the woodpecker was part of his graphics when he was with Honda? Screenshot 20230330 191737 Google.jpg?VersionId=TqH

 

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Does anyone know why Woody the woodpecker was part of his graphics when he was with Honda?   

Does anyone know why Woody the woodpecker was part of his graphics when he was with Honda? Screenshot 20230330 191737 Google.jpg?VersionId=TqH

 

From a press release in December 2000

UNIVERSAL STUDIOS CONSUMER PRODUCTS GROUP TEAMS-UP WITH HONDA MOTORCYCLE RACING TEAMS FOR SPONSORSHIP AND REPRESENTATION AGREEMENT

Agreement will highlight Universal Studios’ Woody Woodpecker as Honda’s Official Team Mascot and also feature Jurassic Park 3 in 2001.

Torrance, Calif. December 8, 2000 — American Honda Motor Co. Inc.’s Motorcycle Division today announced a unique Honda Racing Team sponsorship and exclusive representation agreement with Universal Studios Consumer Products Group (USCPG).

The companies have formed an innovative motorsports relationship. The multi-year partnership creates a sponsorship that will feature Universal Studios’ character Woody Woodpecker as Team Mascot for both the Honda Motocross Racing Team and the Honda Road Racing Team. Universal Studios will become the primary racing team sponsor for two motocross and two road racing events in 2001 and 2002. Additionally, Universal Studios will represent the merchandising and promotional rights to Honda Racing Team’s motocross riders, Sebastien Tortelli, Ezra Lusk, Ryan Hughes and roadrace riders, Nicky Hayden and Miguel Duhamel.

Feature-length Universal Studios films will be showcased with special designs on the bodywork and uniform of one Honda Racing Team bike and rider for each of the selected races. Although the specific races have not been determined, Jurassic Park III, the third chapter of one of the most successful film franchises in Universal Studios’ history, scheduled for release on July 18, 2001, will be featured on the 2001 Honda Racing Teams. The development and implementation of the global merchandising program for The Jurassic Park franchise has to date resulted in over $2.5 billion in retail sales and over $250 million in promotional media support.

“We are very pleased to bring Universal Studios into the Honda racing family,” said Ray Blank, vice president of Honda’s Motorcycle Division. “As leaders in our respective industries, Honda Racing and Universal Studios will see ‘Performance First’ reach new heights in the coming years.”

The selection of the feisty red-headed Woody Woodpecker as official Team Mascot is a perfect compliment to the Honda Racing Teams featuring the Red Riders. During the 2001 and 2002 racing seasons, Woody Woodpecker will be featured in AMA sanctioned (American Motorcyclist Association) Honda factory racing efforts in Supercross, national motocross, and national road racing competition. A special Woody Woodpecker/Honda Racing Team logo has been developed and will be featured on the CR250R, CBR600F4i and RC51 racing bikes, the racer’s uniforms, the Racing Team trucks and promotional materials.

“Cross-licensing between entertainment and motorsports has been a very successful combination for Universal,” said Elliot Lederman, vice president, licensing and sports, Universal Studios Consumer Products Group. “Universal has had successful programs with NASCAR Champions Jeff Gordon and Bobby Labonte, NHRA Funny Car Champion, John Force and Formula One Champions, WilliamsF1 . We are very proud to have the opportunity to sponsor and represent Honda, the winningest team in motorcycle history.”

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Set robot to destroy…. Drop gate. He was the Orca. Insane when you break down and really look at what he did. 🐐 

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Vuillemin won two races in 2000 and one in 2001.  Tortelli won a race in 2000 and 2001. Windham won a race in 2001. Posted the...

Vuillemin won two races in 2000 and one in 2001. 

Tortelli won a race in 2000 and 2001.

Windham won a race in 2001.

Posted the following in a different thread.

Only guys who beat RC outdoors are:

Kevin Windham (1996 1x, 1997 3x, 2001 1x, 2003 2x)
Scott Sheak (1997 1x)
Damon Huffman (1997 1x)
Steve Lamson (1998 1x)
John Dowd (1998 2x)
Robbie Reynard (1998 1x)
Tallon Vohland (1999 1x)
Brock Sellards (1999 1x)
Nic Wey (1999 1x)
David Vuillemin (2000 2x, 2001 1x)
Sebastien Tortelli (2000 1x, 2001 1x)
Tim Ferry (2001 1x)
James Stewart (2006 3x)

Reynard when firing on all cylinders in 98 passed RC for a moto win at Unadilla and Millville. Crashed out of another potential moto win at Washougal after passing RC and then won a moto at Binghamton before finally winning the O/A at Steel City to end the year. If Robbie could have gotten starts he could have been a legitimate threat to RC for at least a half a season. Which is more then most can say. His one victory is arguably the most misleading on the list for having raw speed on RC for a time. Tortelli only having Two wins against him is crazy too. As he won a fair few motos but only 2 O/As. The concrete starts killed him. 

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I have a bit if a different take on the GOAT.  While RC has the stats and I do think he is the GOAT, I also think it's a bit unfair to past eras.  Every era produces riders of unique significance who were supreme under the conditions and competition they were given.  So many legends from the 70s, 80s, and 90s.  Would Ricky have defeated Mark Barnett during the Bomber's reign of terror on the 125 class? Bayle in 1991?  Johnson in 86? McGrath in his prime? Stewart on a 125?

Hard to say, but at the end of the day, RC has the stats to back it up and it's hard to argue against what the facts clearly show.

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Park Boys wrote:
I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were...

I was/am a huge Windham fan but those two losses and the 6 motos he dropped that year to Windham and the 1 to Ferry were all because they were on four strokes and RC was not in 2003.

Flatliner wrote:

Kevin went 1-1 in 2001 at Washougal too.  I could swear tortelli won a few races in 2000 and 2001 as well.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Vuillemin won two races in 2000 and one in 2001.  Tortelli won a race in 2000 and 2001. Windham won a race in 2001. Posted the...

Vuillemin won two races in 2000 and one in 2001. 

Tortelli won a race in 2000 and 2001.

Windham won a race in 2001.

Posted the following in a different thread.

Only guys who beat RC outdoors are:

Kevin Windham (1996 1x, 1997 3x, 2001 1x, 2003 2x)
Scott Sheak (1997 1x)
Damon Huffman (1997 1x)
Steve Lamson (1998 1x)
John Dowd (1998 2x)
Robbie Reynard (1998 1x)
Tallon Vohland (1999 1x)
Brock Sellards (1999 1x)
Nic Wey (1999 1x)
David Vuillemin (2000 2x, 2001 1x)
Sebastien Tortelli (2000 1x, 2001 1x)
Tim Ferry (2001 1x)
James Stewart (2006 3x)

Are we talking motos or overalls?

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Are we talking motos or overalls?

Overalls. 

4/4/2023 12:09pm

What do people think of Steve Matthes not thinking that Carmichael is the GOAT? His argument is that you have to be the best indoors and outdoors to be the GOAT, and McGrath was clearly better indoors. Personally, I disagree with that, because the GOAT label applies to the greatest of all time, not the first person to be the best at both indoors and outdoors. In the history of the sport, Carmichael is the greatest of all time.

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But clearly he is not the greatest at SX.... Stats are stats You can't argue that.

Overall, yes, but SX - Mc #1 greatest of all time

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The Moth wrote:
I have a bit if a different take on the GOAT.  While RC has the stats and I do think he is the GOAT, I also...

I have a bit if a different take on the GOAT.  While RC has the stats and I do think he is the GOAT, I also think it's a bit unfair to past eras.  Every era produces riders of unique significance who were supreme under the conditions and competition they were given.  So many legends from the 70s, 80s, and 90s.  Would Ricky have defeated Mark Barnett during the Bomber's reign of terror on the 125 class? Bayle in 1991?  Johnson in 86? McGrath in his prime? Stewart on a 125?

Hard to say, but at the end of the day, RC has the stats to back it up and it's hard to argue against what the facts clearly show.

RC would have dominated no matter the era or the competition.  The one thing he had in spades was indomitable will power.  He always found a way to beat whoever was in front of him.

Looking back now, it's laughable to recall the "wisdom" of the time -   

When RC was an amateur destroying the mini classes  - "he'll never be any good on the big bikes.  He's too small"

When he dominated the big bikes in Am's - "he won't be able to do that in the Pros, he's too short and fat"

When he dominated the 125's in the Pros - "he won't be able to do that on a 250... too small!"

When he dominated 250's outdoors - "he'll never do that in SX.  He's an outdoor rider.  He'll never beat McGrath!"

All this and more was commonly said.  He shut everyone up through sheer will power.

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