Why couldn't it have been in 2023, I'd love to see this guy race the AMA Outdoor Nationals

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3/27/2023 10:37am
Cobbler wrote:

If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

OT wrote:

Southwick is hard pack for Euro riders

How many times have you ridden Southwick? 

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Bonanza69 wrote:

So,what are the statistics Gajser/Cairoli vs Herlings?Well,i would say,it could be a 7-1 in favor of Herlings!?lol

mxb2 wrote:
Wrong. Last time i check tim is the mxgp champ and more 450 titles .
Bonanza69 wrote:
Man,you are comparing race results to championships!?

Man,you are comparing race results to championships!?Pinch

Yep,titles mean more
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TeamGreen wrote:

I have no idea how things would go as far as “Herlings versus our guys” in 2023; but, I’d sure like to see it happen! 

Deegan would blow his doors off. Stamp it...

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3/27/2023 10:56am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2023 10:57am
RG437 wrote:
Yeah, Argentina has tons of sand and Sardinia was not technical at all 

Yeah, Argentina has tons of sand and Sardinia was not technical at all Blink

That dude smoking some good reefa 😂. Not technical at all 😂😂

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How many times have you ridden Southwick? 

How many times have you ridden Lommel?Were you at some dutchmaster races in the past?You know nothing!!!

 

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Right now I would give tomac the edge because Herlings is coming off an injury. In a few months it’s anyone’s guess 

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mxb2 wrote:
Wrong. Last time i check tim is the mxgp champ and more 450 titles .
Bonanza69 wrote:
Man,you are comparing race results to championships!?

Man,you are comparing race results to championships!?Pinch

mxb2 wrote:
Yep,titles mean more

The initial post was about the statistics of Herlings vs Tomac,so stop your nonsense.

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We'll race em when it's time.

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Bonanza69 wrote:
Man,you are comparing race results to championships!?

Man,you are comparing race results to championships!?Pinch

mxb2 wrote:
Yep,titles mean more
Bonanza69 wrote:

The initial post was about the statistics of Herlings vs Tomac,so stop your nonsense.

And like i said. Other riders were mentioned by the op,. Hmmm. I see you dont like. The facts of titles mean more than wins.
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3-3 if gajser was there 

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mxb2 wrote:
Yep,titles mean more
Bonanza69 wrote:

The initial post was about the statistics of Herlings vs Tomac,so stop your nonsense.

mxb2 wrote:
And like i said. Other riders were mentioned by the op,. Hmmm. I see you dont like. The facts of titles mean more than wins.

7-1,0-0,that‘s a fact.

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Bonanza69 wrote:

The initial post was about the statistics of Herlings vs Tomac,so stop your nonsense.

mxb2 wrote:
And like i said. Other riders were mentioned by the op,. Hmmm. I see you dont like. The facts of titles mean more than wins.
Bonanza69 wrote:

7-1,0-0,that‘s a fact.

Lol. And forkner is 1-0 vs herlings
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My bad,i meant webb. In charlotte
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Cortami79 wrote:

Ah yes, another Herlings vs Tomac thread! Smile

It's the same 2-3 guys that take over every MXGP related thread with the exact same point/counter-points. It's endless as they're too childish to let anyone else have the last word.

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7F67F1B0-95FB-406F-A890-0EE4C45A4914

 

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TeamGreen wrote:

I have no idea how things would go as far as “Herlings versus our guys” in 2023; but, I’d sure like to see it happen! 

BobbyMyers wrote:

Deegan would blow his doors off. Stamp it...

Got me LOLing in a restaurant Laughing

Btw, Glendale..Dr Mark’s suite? 

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ExFix407 wrote:
 

7F67F1B0-95FB-406F-A890-0EE4C45A4914

 

This thread delivers 

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3/27/2023 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2023 12:20pm
southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

wwdiii wrote:

Maybe on hard pack, but not on sand.  I don’t think any of the US riders can touch him on a sand track.

Rosso391 wrote:

Have you never seen Tomac on sand bro?...

Have you ever really watched Herlings and Gajser on sand ? 

I absolutely do not question a head to head possibility on hard pack, and it might be to Tomac's advantage, but no need to under estimate the gp guys, they train on sand all year long and even have their team there... I would even put a $20 coin (for $100) that Vlaanderen or Coldenhoff/Renaux/Febvre beats Tomac (who is a beast), at Southwick (or any sand track for that matter).  

Anyway, I am also a big fan of Tomac, and I hope he stay another 2-3 years to get to the 72/73 wins, but outdoors the gp guys are legit too.

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3/27/2023 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2023 12:27pm
mxb2 wrote:
My bad,i meant webb. In charlotte

Herlings is 4-1 up on Webb so you’re still wrong 

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How many times have you ridden Southwick? 

Bonanza69 wrote:

How many times have you ridden Lommel?Were you at some dutchmaster races in the past?You know nothing!!!

 

Ironic... 

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3/27/2023 1:16pm

Could we pin a Tomac vs Herlings thread to the top of the forums and delete the rest? It's literally the same convo everytime. My niece loves when I read her the same fairytales over and over again, so I get it, but maybe we could just stick with one version rather than dozens of copies?

3/27/2023 1:24pm
Cortami79 wrote:

Ah yes, another Herlings vs Tomac thread! Smile

GrapeApe wrote:
It's the same 2-3 guys that take over every MXGP related thread with the exact same point/counter-points. It's endless as they're too childish to let anyone...

It's the same 2-3 guys that take over every MXGP related thread with the exact same point/counter-points. It's endless as they're too childish to let anyone else have the last word.

Like clockwork..

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3/27/2023 1:36pm
Cobbler wrote:

If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

captmoto wrote:

Southwick sand is nothing at all like Belgian or Dutch sand. There are lots of pros in the past that have said so.

I can confirm this. Southwick may as well be a blue grooved hard pack track in comparison to the sand in Europe. I like to think of myself as a sand rider as that is what I grew up in. Southwick was almost always my best National results wise so when I signed up for the GP in the Netherlands I was like this will be fun. I was way wrong lol. I felt like I had never rode a dirt bike in my life. The private team I rode for over there brought me to a sand track to get ready for Assen & I believe I dropped my lap time by over 12 seconds that day from first moto to last moto. That is how steep of a learning curve it was. The sand is so deep over there. You have to be so strong & going wide open around pretty much the entire track. The second you lose momentum you are completely screwed. And then Assen was even tougher because it was a tight sand track with decent size jumps. Tomac would not touch Herlings in the European sands, but Southwick is a different story. I think they would be very close, may as well flip a coin. 

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3/27/2023 1:40pm
Cobbler wrote:

If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

captmoto wrote:

Southwick sand is nothing at all like Belgian or Dutch sand. There are lots of pros in the past that have said so.

eg351 wrote:
I can confirm this. Southwick may as well be a blue grooved hard pack track in comparison to the sand in Europe. I like to think...

I can confirm this. Southwick may as well be a blue grooved hard pack track in comparison to the sand in Europe. I like to think of myself as a sand rider as that is what I grew up in. Southwick was almost always my best National results wise so when I signed up for the GP in the Netherlands I was like this will be fun. I was way wrong lol. I felt like I had never rode a dirt bike in my life. The private team I rode for over there brought me to a sand track to get ready for Assen & I believe I dropped my lap time by over 12 seconds that day from first moto to last moto. That is how steep of a learning curve it was. The sand is so deep over there. You have to be so strong & going wide open around pretty much the entire track. The second you lose momentum you are completely screwed. And then Assen was even tougher because it was a tight sand track with decent size jumps. Tomac would not touch Herlings in the European sands, but Southwick is a different story. I think they would be very close, may as well flip a coin. 

What was the name of team you were on? 

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TeamGreen wrote:

I have no idea how things would go as far as “Herlings versus our guys” in 2023; but, I’d sure like to see it happen! 

BobbyMyers wrote:

Deegan would blow his doors off. Stamp it...

TeamGreen wrote:
Got me LOLing in a restaurant  Btw, Glendale..Dr Mark’s suite? 

Got me LOLing in a restaurant Laughing

Btw, Glendale..Dr Mark’s suite? 

Not sure, I usually stop by there for a few but if I dont I'll look for you Manny anyways. 😁😊

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BobbyMyers wrote:

Deegan would blow his doors off. Stamp it...

TeamGreen wrote:
Got me LOLing in a restaurant  Btw, Glendale..Dr Mark’s suite? 

Got me LOLing in a restaurant Laughing

Btw, Glendale..Dr Mark’s suite? 

BobbyMyers wrote:

Not sure, I usually stop by there for a few but if I dont I'll look for you Manny anyways. 😁😊

C U there…if the weather holds out, I’m gonna ADV it thru the Dez! 

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Didn’t Herlings go 1-1 a few years ago over here?  
 

I can’t think of any ama guys who would do that on a gp track. Let alone a lommel or something. 

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captmoto wrote:

Southwick sand is nothing at all like Belgian or Dutch sand. There are lots of pros in the past that have said so.

eg351 wrote:
I can confirm this. Southwick may as well be a blue grooved hard pack track in comparison to the sand in Europe. I like to think...

I can confirm this. Southwick may as well be a blue grooved hard pack track in comparison to the sand in Europe. I like to think of myself as a sand rider as that is what I grew up in. Southwick was almost always my best National results wise so when I signed up for the GP in the Netherlands I was like this will be fun. I was way wrong lol. I felt like I had never rode a dirt bike in my life. The private team I rode for over there brought me to a sand track to get ready for Assen & I believe I dropped my lap time by over 12 seconds that day from first moto to last moto. That is how steep of a learning curve it was. The sand is so deep over there. You have to be so strong & going wide open around pretty much the entire track. The second you lose momentum you are completely screwed. And then Assen was even tougher because it was a tight sand track with decent size jumps. Tomac would not touch Herlings in the European sands, but Southwick is a different story. I think they would be very close, may as well flip a coin. 

What was the name of team you were on? 

M. Smith Electrical/Worx Financial services were the two main sponsors not exactly sure if that's what they called it. They were a UK based team that did all of the EMX rounds.

3/28/2023 5:01am
eg351 wrote:
I can confirm this. Southwick may as well be a blue grooved hard pack track in comparison to the sand in Europe. I like to think...

I can confirm this. Southwick may as well be a blue grooved hard pack track in comparison to the sand in Europe. I like to think of myself as a sand rider as that is what I grew up in. Southwick was almost always my best National results wise so when I signed up for the GP in the Netherlands I was like this will be fun. I was way wrong lol. I felt like I had never rode a dirt bike in my life. The private team I rode for over there brought me to a sand track to get ready for Assen & I believe I dropped my lap time by over 12 seconds that day from first moto to last moto. That is how steep of a learning curve it was. The sand is so deep over there. You have to be so strong & going wide open around pretty much the entire track. The second you lose momentum you are completely screwed. And then Assen was even tougher because it was a tight sand track with decent size jumps. Tomac would not touch Herlings in the European sands, but Southwick is a different story. I think they would be very close, may as well flip a coin. 

What was the name of team you were on? 

eg351 wrote:
M. Smith Electrical/Worx Financial services were the two main sponsors not exactly sure if that's what they called it. They were a UK based team that...

M. Smith Electrical/Worx Financial services were the two main sponsors not exactly sure if that's what they called it. They were a UK based team that did all of the EMX rounds.

What year was this? 

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How the fuck can you argue this topic over and over?

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