Why couldn't it have been in 2023, I'd love to see this guy race the AMA Outdoor Nationals

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Jeffrey Herlings won the Overall at Sardegna with a 2/2 finish, but watching him charge in that 2nd moto was a thing of beauty.  Eli Tomac, Chase Sexton, Jett Lawrence and Jeffrey Herlings would be epic.  Won't ever happen, because Eli Tomac is retiring this year, but I would have loved to see these 4 battle. 

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mxpappy711 3/27/2023 4:42am
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He lost twice this weekend?

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southeast 3/27/2023 5:41am
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Tomac would destroy him right now.

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southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

Maybe on hard pack, but not on sand.  I don’t think any of the US riders can touch him on a sand track.

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Bonanza69 3/27/2023 6:08am
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mxpappy711 wrote:

He lost twice this weekend?

He won the GP and gained points on the leader of the championship!How’s that?

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BigRedMachine 3/27/2023 6:09am
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mxpappy711 wrote:

He lost twice this weekend?

He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey Herlings outdoors. 

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Bonanza69 3/27/2023 6:10am
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southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

I want to see that at the next mxdn!

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Richard-vanC 3/27/2023 6:31am
3/27/2023 6:31am
southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

Bonanza69 wrote:

I want to see that at the next mxdn!

yeah that would be nice for all the fans ..Tomac at its best against Herlings 

thats if Tomac is going to race MXON 

HonDawg17 3/27/2023 6:32am
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southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

wwdiii wrote:

Maybe on hard pack, but not on sand.  I don’t think any of the US riders can touch him on a sand track.

Have you never seen Tomac on sand bro?...

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RG437 3/27/2023 6:45am
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mxpappy711 wrote:

He lost twice this weekend?

BigRedMachine wrote:
He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey...

He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey Herlings outdoors. 

I believe it’s 7-1 in Herlings favour

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mxpappy711 wrote:

He lost twice this weekend?

BigRedMachine wrote:
He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey...

He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey Herlings outdoors. 

RG437 wrote:

I believe it’s 7-1 in Herlings favour

Post. Gajser,and ac222 results versus tomac also,since both also have beat jeffrey.
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sandtrack315 3/27/2023 6:56am
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mxpappy711 wrote:

He lost twice this weekend?

I assume you didn't actually watch the race. He was going very fast.

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Cobbler 3/27/2023 6:58am
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If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

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captmoto 3/27/2023 7:12am
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Cobbler wrote:

If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

Southwick sand is nothing at all like Belgian or Dutch sand. There are lots of pros in the past that have said so.

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Cobbler wrote:

If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

Southwick is hard pack for Euro riders

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HonDawg17 3/27/2023 7:36am
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Cobbler wrote:

If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

Thank you. ^ this guy knows.

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Cobbler 3/27/2023 7:42am
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I know, since the only thing that matters is how treacherous the track is, we should just line them up for a tough mudder. 

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RG437 3/27/2023 8:24am
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BigRedMachine wrote:
He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey...

He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey Herlings outdoors. 

RG437 wrote:

I believe it’s 7-1 in Herlings favour

mxb2 wrote:
Post. Gajser,and ac222 results versus tomac also,since both also have beat jeffrey.

That wasn’t the question bud. 

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TeamGreen 3/27/2023 8:29am
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I have no idea how things would go as far as “Herlings versus our guys” in 2023; but, I’d sure like to see it happen! 

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Bonanza69 3/27/2023 8:32am
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BigRedMachine wrote:
He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey...

He didn't have very good starts in each moto, but got good solid finishes.  Anybody know how Eli Tomac has done head to head against Jeffrey Herlings outdoors. 

RG437 wrote:

I believe it’s 7-1 in Herlings favour

mxb2 wrote:
Post. Gajser,and ac222 results versus tomac also,since both also have beat jeffrey.

So,what are the statistics Gajser/Cairoli vs Herlings?Well,i would say,it could be a 7-1 in favor of Herlings!?lol

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Bonanza69 3/27/2023 8:39am
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captmoto wrote:

Southwick sand is nothing at all like Belgian or Dutch sand. There are lots of pros in the past that have said so.

Villopoto would say,shitty tracks.lol

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Cortami79 3/27/2023 8:40am
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Ah yes, another Herlings vs Tomac thread! Smile

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RG437 wrote:

I believe it’s 7-1 in Herlings favour

mxb2 wrote:
Post. Gajser,and ac222 results versus tomac also,since both also have beat jeffrey.
RG437 wrote:

That wasn’t the question bud. 

Well other riders were mentioned but only tomacs name comes up when its convenient. 🤷🤷🤷
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mxb2 3/27/2023 8:46am
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RG437 wrote:

I believe it’s 7-1 in Herlings favour

mxb2 wrote:
Post. Gajser,and ac222 results versus tomac also,since both also have beat jeffrey.
Bonanza69 wrote:

So,what are the statistics Gajser/Cairoli vs Herlings?Well,i would say,it could be a 7-1 in favor of Herlings!?lol

Wrong. Last time i check tim is the mxgp champ and more 450 titles .
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Ozy 3/27/2023 8:47am
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southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

wwdiii wrote:

Maybe on hard pack, but not on sand.  I don’t think any of the US riders can touch him on a sand track.

I purchased MXGPtv season pass for 2023 and have been watching.

The tracks for the first two rounds were pretty basic tracks with lots of sand and not many technical sections. Pretty much WFO.

Right now Tomac would destroy #84 on any track in the world. Herlings has not been anything close to FMOTP. <-- nobody should be surprised since he didn't race for 14 months. Lets wait a few more months before we get into this debate

I have much to learn about the GP's and riders since I just started following the show. and the MXoN is the only reference I have. Geerts and Prado didn't shine very bright at the nations but look really good so far. For sure surprised Renaux and Seewar are doing so poorly

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1911 3/27/2023 8:54am
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Cortami79 wrote:

Ah yes, another Herlings vs Tomac thread! Smile

What time does Deegan race? 😀

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team_player 3/27/2023 8:56am
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southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

wwdiii wrote:

Maybe on hard pack, but not on sand.  I don’t think any of the US riders can touch him on a sand track.

Ozy wrote:
I purchased MXGPtv season pass for 2023 and have been watching. The tracks for the first two rounds were pretty basic tracks with lots of sand...

I purchased MXGPtv season pass for 2023 and have been watching.

The tracks for the first two rounds were pretty basic tracks with lots of sand and not many technical sections. Pretty much WFO.

Right now Tomac would destroy #84 on any track in the world. Herlings has not been anything close to FMOTP. <-- nobody should be surprised since he didn't race for 14 months. Lets wait a few more months before we get into this debate

I have much to learn about the GP's and riders since I just started following the show. and the MXoN is the only reference I have. Geerts and Prado didn't shine very bright at the nations but look really good so far. For sure surprised Renaux and Seewar are doing so poorly

Geerts didn’t shine at the nations? What race were you watching?

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RG437 3/27/2023 9:13am
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southeast wrote:

Tomac would destroy him right now.

wwdiii wrote:

Maybe on hard pack, but not on sand.  I don’t think any of the US riders can touch him on a sand track.

Ozy wrote:
I purchased MXGPtv season pass for 2023 and have been watching. The tracks for the first two rounds were pretty basic tracks with lots of sand...

I purchased MXGPtv season pass for 2023 and have been watching.

The tracks for the first two rounds were pretty basic tracks with lots of sand and not many technical sections. Pretty much WFO.

Right now Tomac would destroy #84 on any track in the world. Herlings has not been anything close to FMOTP. <-- nobody should be surprised since he didn't race for 14 months. Lets wait a few more months before we get into this debate

I have much to learn about the GP's and riders since I just started following the show. and the MXoN is the only reference I have. Geerts and Prado didn't shine very bright at the nations but look really good so far. For sure surprised Renaux and Seewar are doing so poorly

Yeah, Argentina has tons of sand and Sardinia was not technical at all Blink

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Bonanza69 3/27/2023 10:16am
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mxb2 wrote:
Post. Gajser,and ac222 results versus tomac also,since both also have beat jeffrey.
Bonanza69 wrote:

So,what are the statistics Gajser/Cairoli vs Herlings?Well,i would say,it could be a 7-1 in favor of Herlings!?lol

mxb2 wrote:
Wrong. Last time i check tim is the mxgp champ and more 450 titles .

Man,you are comparing race results to championships!?Pinch

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ATKpilot99 3/27/2023 10:23am
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Any thread containing both Herlings and Tomac should automatically post in the dumbgeon 

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thewrizzle 3/27/2023 10:32am
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Cobbler wrote:

If you think herlings is safe in the sand go watch southwick 2022 again.

OT wrote:

Southwick is hard pack for Euro riders

No, it’s not. Just because it’s not as deep as some Euro tracks doesn’t make it anything like hard pack.

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