KTM backorder parts problem

Superchris16
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Does anyone know why all of ktm 22.5-current models parts are on back order.  Makes me want to sell this thing and by a honda or a yamaha.  Sh!ts getting old. Any one else having the same issues.

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3/26/2023 11:00am
Does anyone know why all of ktm 22.5-current models parts are on back order.  Makes me want to sell this thing and by a honda or...

Does anyone know why all of ktm 22.5-current models parts are on back order.  Makes me want to sell this thing and by a honda or a yamaha.  Sh!ts getting old. Any one else having the same issues.

I wouldn't sell my bike over it, but yes, ive been waiting months for a pile of KTM power parts...

183Matt
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3/26/2023 11:24am

It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes it’s getting old.

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 just got my SXS 150 kit after a 5 month backorder.  completely forgot about it till I got an email.

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Superchris16
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3/26/2023 12:28pm
183Matt wrote:
It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes...

It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes it’s getting old.

But some how all these manufacturers have zero problems getting new bikes on the floor.  God forbid you break something on them cause now you will be just looking at your new bike.

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3/26/2023 12:43pm

KTM staff have been told they will have parts supply issue's well into 2024. I just tried to order a HP wheel - delivery date is Dec. 2nd.

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3/26/2023 1:34pm

I work in Aerospace and we're having massive material shortages not to mention nobody wants to work that's just here in America I'm sure it's worldwide🤷‍♂️ I'm over it's time to get things rolling again! 

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3/26/2023 1:58pm

In my world, lead times on industrial transformers and 3MW gensets are 90-100 weeks. I ordered new RTUs in January and will get the first of them in March 2024. 

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3/26/2023 2:02pm

Like its by design or something 😏

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Superchris16
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3/26/2023 2:08pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2023 5:54pm
In my world, lead times on industrial transformers and 3MW gensets are 90-100 weeks. I ordered new RTUs in January and will get the first of...

In my world, lead times on industrial transformers and 3MW gensets are 90-100 weeks. I ordered new RTUs in January and will get the first of them in March 2024. 

Agreed. In my industry commercial general contractor. We see issues with switch gear, ac and refrigeration gear.  But we can get parts for them. Moto is the opposite we can by new bike but not parts to support it.

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3/26/2023 2:21pm
In my world, lead times on industrial transformers and 3MW gensets are 90-100 weeks. I ordered new RTUs in January and will get the first of...

In my world, lead times on industrial transformers and 3MW gensets are 90-100 weeks. I ordered new RTUs in January and will get the first of them in March 2024. 

Agreed. In my industry commercial general contractor. We see issues with switch gear, ac and refrigeration gear.  But we can get parts for them. Moto is...

Agreed. In my industry commercial general contractor. We see issues with switch gear, ac and refrigeration gear.  But we can get parts for them. Moto is the opposite we can by new bike but not parts to support it.

Same here on the residential side.  We have something like a 46 week wait on new 600A and up residential panels.  With CA mandating that everything be electric ready, this is only going to get worse.  

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183Matt
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3/26/2023 10:42pm
183Matt wrote:
It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes...

It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes it’s getting old.

But some how all these manufacturers have zero problems getting new bikes on the floor.  God forbid you break something on them cause now you will...

But some how all these manufacturers have zero problems getting new bikes on the floor.  God forbid you break something on them cause now you will be just looking at your new bike.

Yep, that’s why I’m not on the new generation bike yet.

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3/26/2023 11:48pm

That sucks. I want a 23 450 SXF in the worst way, but I'm thinking I may hold off for a little while. My buddy just bought a brand new 23 FC350, hasn't even put ten hours on the bike and has had a litany of issues with it. Radiator leaking, bike not starting etc. Our local dealer here in Socal was able to get parts though and it's all fixed now. Hopefully they have this shit sorted out by the end of this year because I wanna try one! The current fleet of Austrian bikes look so badass.

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3/27/2023 4:02am

Here in Europe I struggled getting a chain, sprockets, clutch plates. Basic stuff. Usually parts you would not even think about being unavailable.

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3/27/2023 4:08am

Pretty certain Rocky Mountain or Motosport would have that stuff wouldn't they?

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3/27/2023 4:18am
Spoonguy wrote:

Pretty certain Rocky Mountain or Motosport would have that stuff wouldn't they?

Not exactly. I tried to order stuff for my 2020 KTM and parts were on backorder. I cancelled my order because they had zero idea when they were going to get the parts. I just went on eBay and bought used or nearly new parts. 

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3/27/2023 5:39am

OEM Radiator shrouds for my 23 250XC are backordered until June.

 

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3/27/2023 5:53am

Most large companies use six sigma or similar just in time manufacturing strategy.  Works fairly well until shortages throw the process off track.  When I retired last year from from a large tech company, our PLC hardware was running over 16 weeks if I recall, I bet it’s longer than that now.  Glad I’m through with working for a living.  

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3/27/2023 6:32am

Lol a plastics kit for my 23 was on back order till October this year. I ended up sourcing each piece randomly from checking different outlets. Cost me more but at least I got it. On a side note I think it’s BS that Ktm made it so that you can only buy plastics from them and no aftermarket company’s can make them. I think it’s going to court but sucks in the mean time. At least make product for your customers if your gonna control the damn market on it. 

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3/27/2023 7:37am
In my world, lead times on industrial transformers and 3MW gensets are 90-100 weeks. I ordered new RTUs in January and will get the first of...

In my world, lead times on industrial transformers and 3MW gensets are 90-100 weeks. I ordered new RTUs in January and will get the first of them in March 2024. 

Agreed. In my industry commercial general contractor. We see issues with switch gear, ac and refrigeration gear.  But we can get parts for them. Moto is...

Agreed. In my industry commercial general contractor. We see issues with switch gear, ac and refrigeration gear.  But we can get parts for them. Moto is the opposite we can by new bike but not parts to support it.

BAMX wrote:
Same here on the residential side.  We have something like a 46 week wait on new 600A and up residential panels.  With CA mandating that everything...

Same here on the residential side.  We have something like a 46 week wait on new 600A and up residential panels.  With CA mandating that everything be electric ready, this is only going to get worse.  

Commercial HVAC equipment is bare minimum 40 week lead time now. Residential is thankfully no issue right now, but commercial guys are pretty screwed for a while.

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Agreed. In my industry commercial general contractor. We see issues with switch gear, ac and refrigeration gear.  But we can get parts for them. Moto is...

Agreed. In my industry commercial general contractor. We see issues with switch gear, ac and refrigeration gear.  But we can get parts for them. Moto is the opposite we can by new bike but not parts to support it.

BAMX wrote:
Same here on the residential side.  We have something like a 46 week wait on new 600A and up residential panels.  With CA mandating that everything...

Same here on the residential side.  We have something like a 46 week wait on new 600A and up residential panels.  With CA mandating that everything be electric ready, this is only going to get worse.  

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Commercial HVAC equipment is bare minimum 40 week lead time now. Residential is thankfully no issue right now, but commercial guys are pretty screwed for a...

Commercial HVAC equipment is bare minimum 40 week lead time now. Residential is thankfully no issue right now, but commercial guys are pretty screwed for a while.

Yep,  trane and Lenox is who I deal with mostly and they are 40+ weeks out after your signed submittal is approve. Ses are minimum 52 weeks.

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3/27/2023 8:19am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2023 9:01am
mikelawlor wrote:
Lol a plastics kit for my 23 was on back order till October this year. I ended up sourcing each piece randomly from checking different outlets...

Lol a plastics kit for my 23 was on back order till October this year. I ended up sourcing each piece randomly from checking different outlets. Cost me more but at least I got it. On a side note I think it’s BS that Ktm made it so that you can only buy plastics from them and no aftermarket company’s can make them. I think it’s going to court but sucks in the mean time. At least make product for your customers if your gonna control the damn market on it. 

Shdnt release a bike until you can get parts for it.
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3/27/2023 8:57am
mikelawlor wrote:
Lol a plastics kit for my 23 was on back order till October this year. I ended up sourcing each piece randomly from checking different outlets...

Lol a plastics kit for my 23 was on back order till October this year. I ended up sourcing each piece randomly from checking different outlets. Cost me more but at least I got it. On a side note I think it’s BS that Ktm made it so that you can only buy plastics from them and no aftermarket company’s can make them. I think it’s going to court but sucks in the mean time. At least make product for your customers if your gonna control the damn market on it. 

UFO has plastic for the 23 KTM's I have gotten a few sets of it.  I have not compared it directly to the OEM KTM or Powerparts stuff yet.  So not sure if it is a different shade of orange or any other differences. The front fenders do not have the fins on them like the powerparts and OEM ones.  I have Powerparts plastic kits I ordered back on Nov of 22 that had an ETA of December 22, then Jan 23, Feb 23, now April 23 . But not optimistic that I'll ever get them at this point. 

Textron and Arctic Cat tried some similar stuff with not allowing/suing aftermarket  companies with stuff made for the Wildcat XX. As a result it has very very little aftermarket support and is almost dead. It is one of the best handling SXS's and most Suspension guys say the suspension design is the best.  It has had some issues with earlier models , then the lack of aftermarket and then hard to get OEM parts for too. 

Right from the start of KTM trying this with the plastic I was saying it could be bad for them in the long run.   It even limits the stuff a KTM dealer is able to have.  KTM has also made it almost impossible to buy a NON powerparts FMF pipe for the 22.5/23's. It might be bad timing , but I feel like its a basic concept in business to have  multiple sources for the same item. We have multiple accounts to buy multiple brands of plastic so if supplier  A or B is out of it, we still have options. When you limit yourself to a single source your asking for trouble.

Even if KTM had just come out with the powerparts plastic kits right away when the new bikes came out, they would have most likely sold them all before the aftermarket had an option.  WHen the new YZ125/250 body change happened in 22 , it was not until August or around then that there were aftermarket items available to buy. The 23 YZ450 plastic kits will be available soon , maybe a couple months, but thats almost 1 year from when the bike was announced. If KTM just had that head start and showed that their prices were comparable to aftermarket plastic kits, they could have sold just as many, without killing off team sponsors or causing a shortage of options for  replacement parts and or customizing.

As far as other aftermarket items, I'm seeing much less shortages and distributors seem to be back to having pretty much everything in stock again. Not like the height of Covid. Only bikes I have trouble with getting stuff for are the 23 YZ450, and the 23 KTM and Husky's as far as aftermarket items go. And FMF pipes for a lot of bikes too.   Overall much better than it was a year or 2 ago. So much stuff is made a year or so in advance. I would guess that the stuff that is still hard to get might be stuff that is made even farther in advance and or that has had a sustained increased demand .  

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3/27/2023 9:09am

I wish the fuel tank I ordered months ago would finally come in 🤷🏻‍♂️

3/27/2023 9:09am

23 KTM 450 SXF had a faulty fuel pump and they were on backorder. As the bike had less than 1 hour on it I made a bit of an issue about it. They called KTM and it was sent overnight. Parts seem available if you make it an issue I believe.

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3/27/2023 11:25am

I have a good dealer, he has been willing to canabalize a crated bike for some parts for us. Support those that support you!

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3/27/2023 11:30am
183Matt wrote:
It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes...

It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes it’s getting old.

But some how all these manufacturers have zero problems getting new bikes on the floor.  God forbid you break something on them cause now you will...

But some how all these manufacturers have zero problems getting new bikes on the floor.  God forbid you break something on them cause now you will be just looking at your new bike.

But privateers can get free stuff lol
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WDSRCR wrote:

OEM Radiator shrouds for my 23 250XC are backordered until June.

 

FYI UFO has shrouds in stock. I ordered a complete orange plastics kit and it came in about a week

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3/27/2023 3:05pm
BAMX wrote:
Same here on the residential side.  We have something like a 46 week wait on new 600A and up residential panels.  With CA mandating that everything...

Same here on the residential side.  We have something like a 46 week wait on new 600A and up residential panels.  With CA mandating that everything be electric ready, this is only going to get worse.  

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Commercial HVAC equipment is bare minimum 40 week lead time now. Residential is thankfully no issue right now, but commercial guys are pretty screwed for a...

Commercial HVAC equipment is bare minimum 40 week lead time now. Residential is thankfully no issue right now, but commercial guys are pretty screwed for a while.

Yep,  trane and Lenox is who I deal with mostly and they are 40+ weeks out after your signed submittal is approve. Ses are minimum 52...

Yep,  trane and Lenox is who I deal with mostly and they are 40+ weeks out after your signed submittal is approve. Ses are minimum 52 weeks.

It’s crazy man. I’m a York distributor and just listening to all the contractors that need commercial equipment right now but won’t have it for 40+ weeks is insane. 

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I got UFO Plastic last week and it actually fit better

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183Matt wrote:
It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes...

It’s not just 22.5 and newer parts, and it’s not just KTM.  It’s the trickle effect still from the world being put on pause and yes it’s getting old.

But some how all these manufacturers have zero problems getting new bikes on the floor.  God forbid you break something on them cause now you will...

But some how all these manufacturers have zero problems getting new bikes on the floor.  God forbid you break something on them cause now you will be just looking at your new bike.

mxb2 wrote:
But privateers can get free stuff lol

You spelt next factory superstar amateur wrong

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