Justin Cooper to Forgo 450 Debut at A1...

ML512
Posts
17002
Joined
12/28/2008
Location
Wildomar, CA, USA
Fantasy

He will instead make his 450 debut at Houston.

https://www.vitalmx.com/news/news/justin-cooper-wont-lineup-anaheim-1

1
|
MxAddic
Posts
5308
Joined
11/24/2022
Location
USA
1/6/2023 7:15am

Back in the day when they paid someone to race they raced...

3
10
SGoodman
Posts
279
Joined
8/17/2022
Location
Aurora, CO, USA
1/6/2023 7:40am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2023 7:42am

JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop.... you can't bench a 450 SX rider the first four rounds... wtf?? 

3
15
uncledaddy69
Posts
2549
Joined
4/2/2011
Location
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
1/6/2023 7:41am

Bummer, I really wanted to see him out there. You think it’s because the team doesn’t want to pay for mechanics, etc… for an extra rider, or do they think he’s not ready and don’t want him to get injured?

2
1

The Shop

GrapeApe
Posts
8944
Joined
6/7/2010
Location
Mc Kinney, TX, USA
1/6/2023 7:47am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2023 7:54am

Wasn't that the plan from the start that he would race select 450 races in '23 SX, not the whole series?  They didn't technically have a 450 spot available but are doing him a solid due to the circumstances of him being advanced out of 250SX.  Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

11
1
1/6/2023 7:48am

Are there any videos of him on the 450? Maybe he just needs more time to adapt. 

1
motomike137
Posts
8180
Joined
4/22/2010
Location
Fenton, MI, USA
1/6/2023 7:50am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2023 7:52am

Bummer, I'm really looking forward to seeing J Coop on a big bike.

edit: Maybe a combo of parts availability and his comfort on the bike?

1
8tensolutions
Posts
3520
Joined
11/15/2009
Location
Salt Lake City, UT, USA
1/6/2023 7:52am
GrapeApe wrote:
Wasn't that the plan from the start that he would race select 450 races in '23 SX, not the whole series?  They didn't technically have a...

Wasn't that the plan from the start that he would race select 450 races in '23 SX, not the whole series?  They didn't technically have a 450 spot available but are doing him a solid due to the circumstances of him being advanced out of 250SX.  Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

Yes sir.  I still don't understand why it is "select" races, unless they are having him pound outdoor motos to try and dominate the summer.  I am not a fan of Cooper, but do think he deserves to do all the races with his past performance.  I think many are assuming Cooper wants to do the whole series and Star is telling him he cannot.  For all we know, HE may not want to do them all.....and instead dip his toe in the 450 water and not have expectations.  

1
stremme12
Posts
1220
Joined
3/10/2015
Location
HA, HI, USA
1/6/2023 7:58am
SGoodman wrote:
JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop...

JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop.... you can't bench a 450 SX rider the first four rounds... wtf?? 

He was allowed to defend his 250sx title. He was actually injured and due to his injury he was not able to defend it. What you're saying and what actually happened are 2 different things. 

6
2
-MAVERICK-
Posts
67125
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
1/6/2023 8:05am
Are there any videos of him on the 450? Maybe he just needs more time to adapt. 

Are there any videos of him on the 450? Maybe he just needs more time to adapt. 

2
-MAVERICK-
Posts
67125
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
1/6/2023 8:06am
SGoodman wrote:
JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop...

JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop.... you can't bench a 450 SX rider the first four rounds... wtf?? 

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

43
1
stremme12
Posts
1220
Joined
3/10/2015
Location
HA, HI, USA
1/6/2023 8:10am
SGoodman wrote:
JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop...

JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop.... you can't bench a 450 SX rider the first four rounds... wtf?? 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

You forgot he won't even watch any of the Nationals because it is ran by MXSports. I'm not sure what racing he actually watches.

6
1/6/2023 8:11am

Before everyone dogpiles on Star with zero information, here's some potential, non-nefarious completely legitimate reasons why they would postpone his debut:

- J Coop doesn't feel ready

- Star doesn't feel J Coop is ready and doesn't want to put him in danger when it's completely unnecessary

- They don't have enough spare parts yet for 3 450s

- J Coop has an undisclosed injury or is banged up

- They have some additional parts they need tested and would rather utilize him back in Florida for more testing

- To piss off VitalMX

 

Take your pick and move on. No rider is ever "owed" a ride that isn't in a contract. Some of you need to go buy your own SX team since you know so much more about how to run one than everyone else. 

1
3
fourfourone
Posts
3046
Joined
10/14/2017
Location
86oh, CT, USA
1/6/2023 8:18am
SGoodman wrote:
JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop...

JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop.... you can't bench a 450 SX rider the first four rounds... wtf?? 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

Any idea what his last 4 usernames were? 

3
GrapeApe
Posts
8944
Joined
6/7/2010
Location
Mc Kinney, TX, USA
1/6/2023 8:18am
SGoodman wrote:
JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop...

JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop.... you can't bench a 450 SX rider the first four rounds... wtf?? 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

stremme12 wrote:

You forgot he won't even watch any of the Nationals because it is ran by MXSports. I'm not sure what racing he actually watches.

And he's boycotting KTM products (they didn't answer his phone call) and Yamaha products (Deegangate). He even changed is username from gt80rider because he felt that was supporting Yamaha. 

I don't know what's left in this sport for him to enjoy.

5
1
geo309
Posts
267
Joined
7/9/2008
Location
USA
1/6/2023 8:22am

I just feel he is getting the short end of the stick.   Could not defend his SX title.  Then in outdoors he rides himself into shape and  all the haters just bag on him during the season how bad he is riding.  Earns a spot on the MXDN team  and kicks ass!.   Hope when he does go to outdoors he get some redemption  for how good he really is.

GrapeApe
Posts
8944
Joined
6/7/2010
Location
Mc Kinney, TX, USA
1/6/2023 8:22am
SGoodman wrote:
JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop...

JCoop should have been allowed to defend his 250 SX title..... but the idiots running the show think otherwise... and Star is just clueless with JCoop.... you can't bench a 450 SX rider the first four rounds... wtf?? 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

Any idea what his last 4 usernames were? 

gt80rider

You can view his farewell to that screen name here, in the Dumgeon:  https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Without-listening-to-a-single-interview,1405740

3
1
fourfourone
Posts
3046
Joined
10/14/2017
Location
86oh, CT, USA
1/6/2023 8:26am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2023 8:28am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

Any idea what his last 4 usernames were? 

GrapeApe wrote:

gt80rider

You can view his farewell to that screen name here, in the Dumgeon:  https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Without-listening-to-a-single-interview,1405740

wow haha! What a whiney little girl. 

Kyle_McNab
Posts
741
Joined
1/19/2018
Location
Crofton, MD, USA
1/6/2023 8:30am

Lame, but not surprised. Sexton is 2 years younger and has already been in the 450 class for 3 years. Justin will be 25 this year he’s more than ready for a 450. But I guess if he’s getting paid the same it’s no skin off his back. It’s not like he’ll be able to ride 250 sx next year anyway. Completely banking on 250 motocross and having the whole season revolve around Motocross doesn’t make sense when he’ll be 450 next year anyway. Why not get a jump on experience?

1
1
1/6/2023 8:37am
Are there any videos of him on the 450? Maybe he just needs more time to adapt. 

Are there any videos of him on the 450? Maybe he just needs more time to adapt. 

Check his latest IG post. 

1
loftyair
Posts
2905
Joined
7/3/2009
Location
riverside, CA, USA
1/6/2023 8:55am

Get rid of 'cc' and 'stroke' rules. Run what's best for you.

2
Johnny Ringo
Posts
8219
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
1/6/2023 9:08am

450s are dangerous he should stay 250 forever

1
3
1/6/2023 9:11am

Weak.

Don't really care if its his decision or teams - doesn't make much difference. 

Only caveat is if he is injured (if he is idk why they would not disclose this - would help his and the teams image during this decision). 

1
Spoonguy
Posts
3606
Joined
2/28/2022
Location
Mc Kean, PA, USA
1/6/2023 9:40am

The Yamaha 450 is a new platform this year. I'm certain the scooter needs more testing, parts, etc.. Why put a non-championship contender on it right away?

Zycki11
Posts
7863
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
1/6/2023 9:54am

From what I understand is that Star and JCoop are running select 450 rounds to give him time on the 450 and to see how he stacks up healthy against the field with the ultimate goal of 250 outdoor MX title. This is a tryout as well as championship hopes  

1/6/2023 9:54am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

Any idea what his last 4 usernames were? 

GrapeApe wrote:

gt80rider

You can view his farewell to that screen name here, in the Dumgeon:  https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Without-listening-to-a-single-interview,1405740

It’s gotta be difficult being that miserable all the time. 

1
1/6/2023 9:58am
loftyair wrote:

Get rid of 'cc' and 'stroke' rules. Run what's best for you.

He could run the 250f in the premier class if he felt it was best for him.

3
1/6/2023 11:51am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

He's here for replies exactly like this, but I get where you're coming from. Trolls just want to get your goat.

 

rFtfbTL.jpeg?VersionId=LSQiEZogSySfU7Z

 

1
-MAVERICK-
Posts
67125
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario, CA
1/6/2023 11:53am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

He's here for replies exactly like this, but I get where you're coming from. Trolls just want to get your goat.    

He's here for replies exactly like this, but I get where you're coming from. Trolls just want to get your goat.

 

rFtfbTL.jpeg?VersionId=LSQiEZogSySfU7Z

 

He's in his 50's, but I get what you're saying. Laughing

1
fourfourone
Posts
3046
Joined
10/14/2017
Location
86oh, CT, USA
1/6/2023 12:51pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Honest question, why are you even here? All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be...

Honest question, why are you even here?

All you do is bitch and complain about the sport. You complain about the broadcast because it should be free on YouTube, that you won't watch because of smaller whoops, won't watch because Jett is racing 250SX and "will have zero competition and lap the field", can't stand Racer X, etc. 

Yet here you are posting on the biggest MX forum and you'll be glued to your screen tomorrow watching the races like everyone else and posting on here.

I don't get it. 

He's here for replies exactly like this, but I get where you're coming from. Trolls just want to get your goat.    

He's here for replies exactly like this, but I get where you're coming from. Trolls just want to get your goat.

 

rFtfbTL.jpeg?VersionId=LSQiEZogSySfU7Z

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
He's in his 50's, but I get what you're saying. 

He's in his 50's, but I get what you're saying. Laughing

Dude is really in his 50's?  How embarrassing...  

Post a reply to: Justin Cooper to Forgo 450 Debut at A1...

The Latest