Larocco’s leap?

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12/27/2022 5:36pm
Meister wrote:
All depends if they C block it or not like they did at vet fest with 89,000 gallons of water in the corner before it. Lol...

All depends if they C block it or not like they did at vet fest with 89,000 gallons of water in the corner before it. Lol.

The pic of stew hitting it, jump was easy and had much less consequence. I hit it during that period of time and overshot, came up short, and threw no footed can cans over it on a bone stock 02crf450 lol.. (pic below) Once they added 50 loads of sand before it, it became more difficult. The next year I did it 1 lap on a mod CRF and came up short enough to wash my hands of it. I only even tried it because of a bet that year. Mike Katin said I had to if he did on his rm250.. He did, and wadded. My next practice first lap I held up my end. I didn't wreck but I bent wheels lol.. 

 

The way it is now is totally different. This year I was very close to pulling the trigger during race day practice. First lap it hit me the corner was good enough. Second and third laps my front tire hit a dozer rut at the entry of the corner and unsettled me enough I couldn't stay wide open in the corner to get to the top of third. Once Motos came it was back to bumpy rut fest from the prior days water. If you come up short now, it's the bounce that'll ruin your day. Probably 30' down to the actual bottom then starts to come back up in elevation to the corner, so you'll be augering in.. 

 

To answer your question, yes a 2 stroke 250 with the right guy on it can do it if that guy has the sack to not let off.. as seen by the dude at mxon..

 

Beautiful description!  
 

They have made it harder to hit…..moved the turn in….added a zig……added a zag….uprooted the whole thing and moved it 40 feet to the left……small changes over the years

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12/27/2022 6:05pm

Couple more from this year. 

 

 

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12/27/2022 7:11pm

 Picture of Tomac I snapped this year during practice. Such an awesome jump to see in person. There was a guy this year at MXoN on a Fantic 250 smoker hitting it. Guy was a beast! 

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12/28/2022 5:59am
tcannon521 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/07/20/275929/s1200_49914A43_DEB2_4C03_A6D3_6E3ED7211549.jpg[/img] TFS hitting it on his DR-Z400 back in the day is still the absolute best. R.I.P. you crazy fool!



TFS hitting it on his DR-Z400 back in the day is still the absolute best. R.I.P. you crazy fool!
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Does anybody know if he seat bounced it to get over?

Great PS!!  Btw he manualled it.. lol

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12/28/2022 7:56am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2022 10:32am

The early and late 90's version of Larocco's leap is not apples to apples to what it is today.   In the early days, the landing was several feet tall and built on up on flat ground.   The consequences of casing it were ankle pain and bars laid back in your lap, the reward of making it was still met with a falling out of the sky feeling and still a rather hard landing.   

As the years have progressed, the Richie's have built up a larger sized landing and removed soil from the downside to give a much longer downside to the landing than is present on the face of that same landing jump.  This raises the stakes immensely because a case and rebound is followed by another 12-15' vertical drop for bad stuff to happen in.  The upside, and my suspicion of what the track builders were trying to do, is that if you grease the landing it is so smooth that the rider and equipment could do it all day long without any issues.  Over Jumping today would likely feel like skydiving while waiting to land, lol.

 

This video shows the progression of how much the landing has changed.   

At the 56 second mark you can see laracoo jump it and the landing is a small mound with no real downside (think tabletop)

At the 3:55 minute mark you can see in about 2007 when the landing had continued to be built up but still on that flat surface (front and backside of landing the same length)

At the 6:31 minute mark you can see more what it looks like it modern times with a much longer and pronounced landing.  

 

 

 

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12/28/2022 11:45am

 Here’s a pic of my buddy eating a funnel cake on the landing of the leap after des nations this year.  Hahaa 

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12/28/2022 10:52pm
tcannon521 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/07/20/275929/s1200_49914A43_DEB2_4C03_A6D3_6E3ED7211549.jpg[/img] TFS hitting it on his DR-Z400 back in the day is still the absolute best. R.I.P. you crazy fool!



TFS hitting it on his DR-Z400 back in the day is still the absolute best. R.I.P. you crazy fool!
What's the story behind this?
Curious as well. Looks shopped....

Well that’s because it is… 

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12/29/2022 8:32am

 

Watching it from the stands.  The day I was there only a couple of the 250 guys even tried.  The prep/ traffic/ mud/sand in the left corner before seems to matter more then anything…..  Bogel 19  was so smooooooth though!

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12/29/2022 8:48am Edited Date/Time 12/29/2022 8:48am

I have been to a few races at Redbud but have never ridden the track. Those of you who have hit it or attempted, what gear are you in just for our perspective? On a 450. 

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12/29/2022 9:28am
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I have been to a few races at Redbud but have never ridden the track. Those of you who have hit it or attempted, what gear...

I have been to a few races at Redbud but have never ridden the track. Those of you who have hit it or attempted, what gear are you in just for our perspective? On a 450. 

3rd

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12/29/2022 11:49am
 Picture of Tomac I snapped this year during practice. Such an awesome jump to see in person. There was a guy this year at MXoN on...

 Picture of Tomac I snapped this year during practice. Such an awesome jump to see in person. There was a guy this year at MXoN on a Fantic 250 smoker hitting it. Guy was a beast! 

 Here is a Swap Moto photo of Hakon Osterhagen going for it on the Fantic 250 2 stroke.

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12/29/2022 4:20pm
JG463 wrote:
I have been to a few races at Redbud but have never ridden the track. Those of you who have hit it or attempted, what gear...

I have been to a few races at Redbud but have never ridden the track. Those of you who have hit it or attempted, what gear are you in just for our perspective? On a 450. 

Top of 3rd on a 450 is what I used to say.. now, wfo at the top of 3rd....

12/29/2022 8:17pm

So many of you love this jump. But then in the thread about whoops you all want tamed down obstacles for safety. It's very confusing. This jump separates the Riders and it has a high penalty for lack of execution. Just like any other obstacle.

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12/30/2022 4:09am

After watching that great compilation, it would seem that the price of casing it can be rather high. Lol Roczen sure had some effortless style over it. Jett jumped it like it was just another day at the office. Kudos to anyone that can clear it. 

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12/30/2022 4:27am
So many of you love this jump. But then in the thread about whoops you all want tamed down obstacles for safety. It's very confusing. This...

So many of you love this jump. But then in the thread about whoops you all want tamed down obstacles for safety. It's very confusing. This jump separates the Riders and it has a high penalty for lack of execution. Just like any other obstacle.

I don't know about taming down whoops in SX, but THE LEAP has an alternative approach to it. You don't have to clear it. Just land in the middle like 90% of the riders do. The whoops, however, is something you cannot get around. Just my observation. 

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12/30/2022 4:53am
So many of you love this jump. But then in the thread about whoops you all want tamed down obstacles for safety. It's very confusing. This...

So many of you love this jump. But then in the thread about whoops you all want tamed down obstacles for safety. It's very confusing. This jump separates the Riders and it has a high penalty for lack of execution. Just like any other obstacle.

I don't know about taming down whoops in SX, but THE LEAP has an alternative approach to it. You don't have to clear it. Just land...

I don't know about taming down whoops in SX, but THE LEAP has an alternative approach to it. You don't have to clear it. Just land in the middle like 90% of the riders do. The whoops, however, is something you cannot get around. Just my observation. 

You could just go slower through the whoops, maybe jump them if you're unable to skim. Your right hand has the most say in how safe any obstacle is.

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12/30/2022 8:00am

Probably a top 3 reason and there are only 3, to like a 450, is the fact that you are now capable of hitting this jump. 
3rd matted with a little preload and you’re a smooth operator. 

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12/31/2022 7:53am
What's the story behind this?

Someone on vital said they didn’t think a 40+ Vet could clear the leap on a dual sport with slicks. TFS handed someone his beer and sent it on his DRZ and proved them wrong. Most amazing thing I’d never seen. RIP TFS!!!

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12/31/2022 12:07pm
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Top of 3rd on a 450 is what I used to say.. now, wfo at the top of 3rd....

3rd tapped on a 450……..just thinking about that makes me grateful for woods racing 

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12/31/2022 6:15pm
Meister wrote:

Top of 3rd on a 450 is what I used to say.. now, wfo at the top of 3rd....

3rd tapped on a 450……..just thinking about that makes me grateful for woods racing 

I duno man... 3rd wide in the woods gives me the heebie jeebies even more and I have ridden with some gncc pros that do that on the regular. Lol

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1/3/2023 6:02am

 Watching Tanel Leok from Estonia launch it no problem 1st lap unseen in the mud!! at this years MXDN did it for me.

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1/3/2023 3:21pm

Maxime Reneux (sp) cleared it every lap at MXdN. He would tap his rear brake mid-air to bring his front wheel down a bit for a smooth landing. Very impressive technique. 

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1/3/2023 7:25pm
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Maxime Reneux (sp) cleared it every lap at MXdN. He would tap his rear brake mid-air to bring his front wheel down a bit for a...

Maxime Reneux (sp) cleared it every lap at MXdN. He would tap his rear brake mid-air to bring his front wheel down a bit for a smooth landing. Very impressive technique. 

He was Super fast on 125,s . The EMx class is stacked that kid really stood out. 

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