Should a larger rider start on a 250 2 stroke?

Hey man, first off welcome to the greatest sport ever.

I honestly believe the 250f is your best bet as a beginning rider especially based on your size. The power band on them makes them very easy to learn, they aren’t overwhelming like a 450 can be and they don’t have to be kept up in the rpms to be effective like a two stroke. While I of course can understand the concern of maintenance of one to the other, don’t let that weigh too heavily. Like your post said you’re a beginner. So you won’t be pushing any of the bikes to their limits day in and day out.

Pretty much all modern bikes are solid when it comes to reliability assuming you stay up on oil changes, air filter cleaning, and checking other fluids, spokes, etc when you ride. With that said something can always come up and yes the overall costs can be higher on a 4 stroke.

Another benefit of a 4 stroke is fill it with pump gas and you’re off. No need to stress with mixing oil.

To give some reference I’ve been riding a 250 2 stroke for the past few years and have raced 85-450s in the past. If you want any further insight don’t hesitate to reply.

You are WAY to heavy for a 125

A 250f will probably not get away from you, while a 250 2-stroke could.

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With a flywheel weight. Yes do it. If it’s jetted right it should be smooth power.

There's a 300lb+ member here with video of him riding an RM125 faster than a lot of people on here who say you need a 450 if you're over 170 lbs. I vote 250f due to it being easier to ride, but for a beginner, a 125 can still be a handful.

Do not buy a 250 two stroke, as a rookie... those bike are deceptively fast.. also don't get a 450 either.

I vote a 250f.

I’d go with a 250f for sure. Get a very low hour one or buy new if you can. The maintenance isn’t too bad at all there’s lots of technical help out there

I’d suggest a 250 2T. I’m at 6’1” @ 235 lbs. & have ridden a few 250f’s that feel like they lack a bit. Similar to the 125 2T that have to be ridden harder as opposed to the the 250 2T. The 250 2T you will be able to lug easier at 200 + lbs.. As you get to learn the bikes characteristics you can start to open up the throttle.
As far as maintenance goes the 2T is much easier to work on. Good luck either way you go & welcome to the sport..

While I love 2 strokes, a modern 250F is no higher maintenance than a 2-stroke.. Perhaps the opposite. The penalty comes if you have a catastrophic failure, they’re much more expensive to repair.

Yamaha YZ250F is hard to beat for someone starting out. Even the 2014’s have programable mapping with a handheld. I have an old guy map in my 2014 which makes it stupid easy to ride and ain’t slow by any means.

Really fast 250f

A lot of people loooove them. I’ve never been a fan of the Ktm suspension or handling though. But that’s likely because I’ve ridden aluminum framed coil sprung bikes for 25 years..

you have 0 experience so what ever you learn on will probably be what you prefer

250 two stroke mx bike for a first bike is a asking to be the first and last bike.

250f. Keep the air filter clean and change the oil, you’ll get many seasons out of it before it will need anything. It will be confidence inspiring, you’ll be able to get the basics down and it will allow you to know exactly what you want in a bike without biting you like a 250 smoker or larger displacement four stroke.

Get a total pig for your first bike like a Honda CRF250L and ride in deep sand for a couple months. This will totally help your balance and reactions so when you get on a real MX bike you have some idea how to keep it on two wheels. Don't try to do double and triple jumps until you have table tops totally down

Don’t get a 250 two stroke as your first bike it will not be a fun time. A 125 will definitely pull you around but the 250f would probably be easier.
As far as maintenance goes a modern four stroke isn’t more expensive than a two stroke if you change the oil regularly and keep the air filter clean. If you’re just starting out and not bouncing off the revlimiter you can easily go an entire season on a top end.
Welcome to an amazing sport!

I don't think a 2017-2022 Austrian 250 2-stroke is too much for a bigger beginner. You can tune the engine to be incredibly smooth and that is in my opinion the most important thing for a beginner: Linear power.

250F probably is the smart bet, but I can agree with that too, if you're a dude who is more in the finesse / controlled aggression camp than the heavy handed / kinda wild camp.

They can be made pretty mild without additional parts and while the super smooth delivery and engine braking on the four stroke can be handy, the even lighter more flicky feel of the two stroke has it's plusses too.

I asked similar a couple years ago, and I'm glad I tried the husky 250 and would happily have another, I just wanted to try a 350, which is growing on me too.

Welcome to the sport! I started riding on a (borrowed) 250 2 stroke years ago… Being tall and strong I managed and I learned… but I think you will learn quicker and have more fun on a 250 4 stroke. As long as you treat them decently they are really reliable. And don’t forget to switch to 250 2 stroke after maybe two years. Or add one to your collection :-) Enjoy!

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You've mentioned KTM 250 2ts with a few years on them.

Well, the 250 300 engines are one of the easiest engines to tame / tune.

Without spending a cent on them.

That is, through changing the Power Valve spring, And / Or the Power Valve spring pre-load.

Through those incredibly simple adjustments, ranging from a few seconds, to but a couple of minutes, you can go from a (relatively) mild, to wild.

And, one key thing is riding either a 2 stroke 250, or a 4 stroke 250, the way the engines work.

For the same type of 'tune' ( eg, Off Road / MX usage through to Road Race ) and capacity, a 250 / 300 2 stroke has more torque and horsepower through to a lower rev limit ( generally around 8500 / 9000 rpm) , as against a 250f having a flatter, longer torque curve, but far lower maximum torque, but , generally, another 3000 ( at the least) extra revs.

Just look at the stroke difference between a 250 300 KTM 2t, of any of the last 20 plus years, at 72mm , as against 52.3mm for the 2022 SXF250, nearly 20mm difference - and the earlier KTMs and other 250fs are not that far behind in their over square specifications.

Yes, with the lower, but longer torque curve of a 250f, you can just scoot around (quite quickly), happily, but if you are going genuinely fast, you rev the little blighters out. They are great engines. But, it's revs, revs revs, for their full performance potential.

One of the things that always has me laughing / shaking my head, is when you have a rider revving the beejesus out of a 250 / 300 2t. Be they 'stars' having a rip on one, or just average riders on one. The average / unaccustomed rider to a 250 300 2t, well, that's where they have 'problems'. The 'guns', well, much of the time, though they can be going bloody fast, they'll be often going over that cliff that is the 2 stroke dropping power after their optimum revs.

As I wrote, you don't have to have a scary, fire breathing bike under you, if you just set it up, And, ride it how it works the best.

So many people seem to ignore those simple, free options. And then you've got things like flywheels, pipes / mufflers .

If you’re truly a Beginner,, then a 125 will help you just learn the basics of riding! Then move up, yes. A 250f would be better for your size ,

125 will work, 250F will be better in the long run. Like others said 250 2T is asking for trouble if your a beginner.

250f baby!

Im 6'2 ...230...ridden all my life.
Always been '450 guy' being that I'm bigger

Bought a cheap 250f over the summer.

Never going back!
Light,flickable,all the power I need.

Smokers lack of engine braking will catch you out.

Small bore 4 stroke to start 🤙🏽

If zero experience- do this !
This is your most 'manageable' option

Don't think the 450 won't send you to the moon