Kenny has a tough choice

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Hes not going to go faster through the whoops than what we just seen in paris.
If you have an advantage you need to stick with it. my thoughts
1. stay on honda?
Put the bike in privateer honda rig and get paid from sponsors? Im sure his gear deal alone is close to a $mil.
will they keep paying big $$ to only do world sx? same for redbull. Does he even need to race US sx?

2. clearly yami has a bike but do they have $$ in the budget for him.

what would you do?

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fullfloater 11/12/2022 6:47pm
11/12/2022 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 11/12/2022 6:50pm
He looked amazing in Paris but he also looked amazing at straight rhythm on a YZ250.

He will do well on any bike as long as his body holds up.

Props to the guys setting up his Honda for these off season races.
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lostboy819 11/12/2022 8:31pm
11/12/2022 8:31pm
He looks amazing every year at A1 also but it never carries through the full season.
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Sr_Vet_Rider 11/12/2022 8:34pm
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LouisianaMotocross wrote:
He will do neither of those options more than likely.
^^ THIS ^^
There’s a GREEN bike in his position, we will have to see if he likes it enough to race it.
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MX Guy 11/12/2022 11:13pm
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Based on his post race interview with Darkside, it almost sounded like he all but confirmed he’d be riding this Honda Genuine bike next year.
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Don’t know if it is the high grip level in the dirt there but the classic Honda over steer was gone last night.

Ken can make any bike look good but i think that this was the best i have seen a Honda 450 in a long time.
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viking174 11/13/2022 4:48am
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I say Kawasaki or Suzuki and we know Suzuki has an offer ready.
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MX Guy wrote:
Based on his post race interview with Darkside, it almost sounded like he all but confirmed he’d be riding this Honda Genuine bike next year.
Yeah it’s Great news Ken is an extremely Gifted rider. Ken will b Riding Red for many reasons. One being he wants to race the DBP 04 actually it was supposed to b the 05 engine CR 125 . Rumor that Ken is funding selected 125 races of the amount of 800k. 2023 is a Great year to Ride Red.
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MXP 11/13/2022 7:23am
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If the whoops in Paris are as difficult as the whoops in American SX, I think he's found his set up. But those whoops and that dirt, seem more rider friendly than in the states. He needs a bike that will be consistently good in the whoops. That said, he's looked great so far, 4 races in.
Is he on a 23? And what suspension is he using?
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8tensolutions 11/13/2022 7:51am
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MXP wrote:
If the whoops in Paris are as difficult as the whoops in American SX, I think he's found his set up. But those whoops and that...
If the whoops in Paris are as difficult as the whoops in American SX, I think he's found his set up. But those whoops and that dirt, seem more rider friendly than in the states. He needs a bike that will be consistently good in the whoops. That said, he's looked great so far, 4 races in.
Is he on a 23? And what suspension is he using?
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for Ken. This has nothing to do with what linkage he is allowed to run etc.

If he tells himself he is happy he will go faster than anyone and look amazing doing it. As soon as there is a hiccup and he crashes or doesn't "feel" good, he goes the opposite direction by blaming the bike and having numerous sicknesses and rides around in 7th.
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It’s Kenny’s health. If he’s 💯 his set up is working better. Kinda tough to be 85% or less when your bike is set up for 100%. If he can stay healthy all year, he’s a contender. Now… let’s see. With his 6 years of Honda, he didn’t complete at least 5 series.
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MXP 11/13/2022 7:56am
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MXP wrote:
If the whoops in Paris are as difficult as the whoops in American SX, I think he's found his set up. But those whoops and that...
If the whoops in Paris are as difficult as the whoops in American SX, I think he's found his set up. But those whoops and that dirt, seem more rider friendly than in the states. He needs a bike that will be consistently good in the whoops. That said, he's looked great so far, 4 races in.
Is he on a 23? And what suspension is he using?
8tensolutions wrote:
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for...
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for Ken. This has nothing to do with what linkage he is allowed to run etc.

If he tells himself he is happy he will go faster than anyone and look amazing doing it. As soon as there is a hiccup and he crashes or doesn't "feel" good, he goes the opposite direction by blaming the bike and having numerous sicknesses and rides around in 7th.
I'm interested because Sexton had the same problem last year until the outdoors, when he used a different shock.
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MX Guy wrote:
Based on his post race interview with Darkside, it almost sounded like he all but confirmed he’d be riding this Honda Genuine bike next year.
I think a team like Honda Genuine, MCR, - regardless of Manuf is the perfect team for KR94
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JB 19 11/13/2022 8:01am
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8tensolutions wrote:
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for...
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for Ken. This has nothing to do with what linkage he is allowed to run etc.

If he tells himself he is happy he will go faster than anyone and look amazing doing it. As soon as there is a hiccup and he crashes or doesn't "feel" good, he goes the opposite direction by blaming the bike and having numerous sicknesses and rides around in 7th.
I know that Kenny has a long history of this, but it really isn't much different than Eli going beast mode and then the next week riding around in 6th because he isn't feeling it. I think Kenny just needs a more compliant bike than most top riders which is why he seems to always prefer more of a stock chassis setup.
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8tensolutions 11/13/2022 8:06am
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8tensolutions wrote:
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for...
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for Ken. This has nothing to do with what linkage he is allowed to run etc.

If he tells himself he is happy he will go faster than anyone and look amazing doing it. As soon as there is a hiccup and he crashes or doesn't "feel" good, he goes the opposite direction by blaming the bike and having numerous sicknesses and rides around in 7th.
JB 19 wrote:
I know that Kenny has a long history of this, but it really isn't much different than Eli going beast mode and then the next week...
I know that Kenny has a long history of this, but it really isn't much different than Eli going beast mode and then the next week riding around in 6th because he isn't feeling it. I think Kenny just needs a more compliant bike than most top riders which is why he seems to always prefer more of a stock chassis setup.
I agree. Tomac has similar mental issues other than didn't claim sickness. Tomac was able to get past it though and it would be awesome if Kenny did the same....but saying this CRF is magically better and he is so comfortable on it is clearly mental.....and that's great if it sticks. Last year Factory Honda couldn't get it right for him while his teammates won titles and contended for wins/titles (Jett and Chase)....and he bailed halfway through the SX season.

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Bromley686 11/13/2022 8:46am
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8tensolutions wrote:
I agree. Tomac has similar mental issues other than didn't claim sickness. Tomac was able to get past it though and it would be awesome if...
I agree. Tomac has similar mental issues other than didn't claim sickness. Tomac was able to get past it though and it would be awesome if Kenny did the same....but saying this CRF is magically better and he is so comfortable on it is clearly mental.....and that's great if it sticks. Last year Factory Honda couldn't get it right for him while his teammates won titles and contended for wins/titles (Jett and Chase)....and he bailed halfway through the SX season.

Chase won a title last year?
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8tensolutions wrote:
I agree. Tomac has similar mental issues other than didn't claim sickness. Tomac was able to get past it though and it would be awesome if...
I agree. Tomac has similar mental issues other than didn't claim sickness. Tomac was able to get past it though and it would be awesome if Kenny did the same....but saying this CRF is magically better and he is so comfortable on it is clearly mental.....and that's great if it sticks. Last year Factory Honda couldn't get it right for him while his teammates won titles and contended for wins/titles (Jett and Chase)....and he bailed halfway through the SX season.

Bromley686 wrote:
Chase won a title last year?
Sorry. Fixed original post. I think you get the point.
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Bromley686 11/13/2022 1:43pm
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8tensolutions wrote:
Sorry. Fixed original post. I think you get the point.
I’m just giving you a hard time. I knew what you were trying to get at.

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8tensolutions wrote:
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for...
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for Ken. This has nothing to do with what linkage he is allowed to run etc.

If he tells himself he is happy he will go faster than anyone and look amazing doing it. As soon as there is a hiccup and he crashes or doesn't "feel" good, he goes the opposite direction by blaming the bike and having numerous sicknesses and rides around in 7th.
JB 19 wrote:
I know that Kenny has a long history of this, but it really isn't much different than Eli going beast mode and then the next week...
I know that Kenny has a long history of this, but it really isn't much different than Eli going beast mode and then the next week riding around in 6th because he isn't feeling it. I think Kenny just needs a more compliant bike than most top riders which is why he seems to always prefer more of a stock chassis setup.
8tensolutions wrote:
I agree. Tomac has similar mental issues other than didn't claim sickness. Tomac was able to get past it though and it would be awesome if...
I agree. Tomac has similar mental issues other than didn't claim sickness. Tomac was able to get past it though and it would be awesome if Kenny did the same....but saying this CRF is magically better and he is so comfortable on it is clearly mental.....and that's great if it sticks. Last year Factory Honda couldn't get it right for him while his teammates won titles and contended for wins/titles (Jett and Chase)....and he bailed halfway through the SX season.

Everyone thinks Tomac has/had a mental problem but his issues have always been 100% arm pump. I know someone close to him who has said this for years but Eli never made excuses. If anything we should respect that.
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earlshive418 11/13/2022 4:31pm
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MX Guy wrote:
Based on his post race interview with Darkside, it almost sounded like he all but confirmed he’d be riding this Honda Genuine bike next year.
profeshenal125 wrote:
Yeah it’s Great news Ken is an extremely Gifted rider. Ken will b Riding Red for many reasons. One being he wants to race the DBP...
Yeah it’s Great news Ken is an extremely Gifted rider. Ken will b Riding Red for many reasons. One being he wants to race the DBP 04 actually it was supposed to b the 05 engine CR 125 . Rumor that Ken is funding selected 125 races of the amount of 800k. 2023 is a Great year to Ride Red.
Does it have geiger’s porting?
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bd wrote:
It’s Kenny’s health. If he’s 💯 his set up is working better. Kinda tough to be 85% or less when your bike is set up for...
It’s Kenny’s health. If he’s 💯 his set up is working better. Kinda tough to be 85% or less when your bike is set up for 100%. If he can stay healthy all year, he’s a contender. Now… let’s see. With his 6 years of Honda, he didn’t complete at least 5 series.
Your statement doesn’t seem to be accurate. See AC last year. Clearly injured but would go lead laps before fading hard. Ken either leads or rides around in 10th, that’s not because of injury solely.
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Suzuki or bust Evil
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spimx 11/13/2022 7:21pm
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It's rare to see a bike that skims whoops that well and also shoots out of a corner well too!
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KurtJ99 11/13/2022 7:39pm
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Kenny never looked that good in the whoops at any point last year. And Paris there were several shots where he closed or opened the gap on Eli very quickly.
He openly complained about his factory setup on a recent Vital post race interview. Like Tomac leaving Kawi because he can’t get what he wants, perhaps Kenny really was not able to get his setup right until now. The last thing Kenny (or Eli) is, is a “head case”. Confident bike setup at that speed is hard to find and easy to lose.
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kiwifan 11/13/2022 7:41pm
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MXP wrote:
If the whoops in Paris are as difficult as the whoops in American SX, I think he's found his set up. But those whoops and that...
If the whoops in Paris are as difficult as the whoops in American SX, I think he's found his set up. But those whoops and that dirt, seem more rider friendly than in the states. He needs a bike that will be consistently good in the whoops. That said, he's looked great so far, 4 races in.
Is he on a 23? And what suspension is he using?
8tensolutions wrote:
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for...
He said he only tested for two days on the bike and has not touched a clicker.....meaning it is 10000% mental and always has been for Ken. This has nothing to do with what linkage he is allowed to run etc.

If he tells himself he is happy he will go faster than anyone and look amazing doing it. As soon as there is a hiccup and he crashes or doesn't "feel" good, he goes the opposite direction by blaming the bike and having numerous sicknesses and rides around in 7th.
MXP wrote:
I'm interested because Sexton had the same problem last year until the outdoors, when he used a different shock.
and Kenny would of had same option as Sexton but choose not to....
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earlshive418 11/13/2022 7:53pm
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It’s one race. I’d be willing to bet the excuses will begin to flow around 2/3 of the way through the supercross season. Hopefully I’m wrong but that’s what I’m thinking now.
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3rdgearpinned 11/14/2022 11:24am
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Hes the man. Go watch him at Paris. HOWEVER. This is just my 2 cents. He is super strong but it does not take but one thing, maybe even small do pitch him into a downhill spiral for 6 months. The mental game can kill you. I wish him the best but his mind can take over and ditch it all sometimes and most times at the wrong ass time.

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He has tested HRC Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Stark and still feels his current Geneuine Honda team might be best way to go?
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GPR245 11/15/2022 9:53am
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Roczen stays with Genuine Honda Racing for 2023 AMA SX (alongside Dean and Max) then does World SX with Brayton on that team. I don't have an inside source, I just feel like the money will be good enough, he'll be happy and he can keep his personal sponsors. After Paris he sounded very confident that he would be staying put. We've got what 6 weeks until A1? It'll be hard to build a bike capable and enough spares, organize transport etc if he doesn't want to take a team deal.
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WTF_M8 11/15/2022 10:03am
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Regardless of bike, he will sprain his taint in pre-season testing then he will come down with Chicken Pox right after A1.
He will then run up front for 2 to laps and fade. Which will obviously be due to the factory using the wrong air in his tires. He will retire after finishing 9th in the points.
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