Health issues that you discovered were affecting your riding / energy

Rotaholic
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11/2/2022 6:53pm
Long time sufferer from chronic fatigue ME/CFS. Im still able to the things I love in moderation but it was, and still is a long learning curve. With all the long covid stuff going on in the world, doctors/scientists will have much more data, testing and treatments for post viral fatigue in the future.

Don't count the days, make the days count!
R VanKamp77
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11/2/2022 7:36pm
SoCalMX70 wrote:
Well, I'm 5 days into an ACL reconstruction... So my next year is going to be very health focused. It's going to be one of those...
Well, I'm 5 days into an ACL reconstruction... So my next year is going to be very health focused. It's going to be one of those "best shape of my life" stories when it's all said and done.

I made a run in 2018 when I got back into racing. Went from 245lbs to 185. Learned some good lessons there, but definitely had some shortcomings. Then I got back up to 200lbs during peak covid. Was trying to make a run for 180lbs and ripped this year but never really got into gear with it, especially after my first incident with my knee.

I don't have really any advice to offer this thread that hasn't already been said. I'll just say, everyone is different. Different programs and diets work differently for everyone. In my experience, completely solo, it has taken a long time to get to know what gets me in shape! If you have the time and money for a good trainer and/or nutritionist, it may help speed up the process.
It’s awesome when you learn enough about yourself to know “what works” too. Good luck on your recovery dude.
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Redrcr34
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11/2/2022 8:48pm
Didn’t realize I’ve always had a resting heart rate of around low to mid 90s and by the time I hit the starting line it was well in the 140s 150s. My max wearing a heart rate monitor riding moto was 208 bpm sustained around 15 to 20 minutes. Been on med and now have a resting Hr of around 58 59 bpm.
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11/2/2022 9:07pm
For me it’s a few things.
Eat like crap, train like crap, watch crap, addiction= crap performance.

Eat smarter (I still eat food I like just work in a more rounded and controlled portions) I don’t care if you want to be plant based that’s your choice I don’t want to. I’m working on making 1-2 days a week all plant based meals. You don’t need a large double quarter pounder meal from McD’s get a regular cheeseburger and a water/poweraid/lemonade and walk away finish it wait 5-10 mins and see if you’re still hungry you’d be surprised.

Train regularly start small work up to longer. Don’t go 100% hard core, start no supplements and see how you actually feel after getting your program figured out. Have a coffee if you need it. After a few months it’s second nature.

Stop wasting time on the gram/FB/YT it’s easy to waste 30+ minutes you could have worked out or done something productive and rewarding. Quit addictions even the so-called “harmless” porn, it kills your motivation and drive. Too much dopamine release from the wrong sources.

Get your dopamine from positive places and you’ll see a massive change in your mood. Read books, work out, spend time with people in person, go places, work in your bike, do yard work whatever. You can watch some TV n crap but regulate it.

If you just work out and quit wasting time on mood killers you’ll be miles ahead of most average joes.
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Muttly
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11/2/2022 9:26pm
Certainly had more endurance after getting a new heart.
You’re definitely putting in some longevity numbers. Congratulations.
VetRider97
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11/3/2022 2:06am
Diagnosed with CLL (Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia) 18 years ago at 45 . Never been treated. Consider myself lucky. Doc said "you used to have V8 now you have a V4" To be truthful I don't think about it much and not sure I can say it affects my moto riding much.

The first moto season after being diagnosed instead of my name on front number plate I put the acronym "NTL" (Nothing To Lose), nobody asked what it meant but think a few close friends knew....I hole-shoted more than my fair share of moto's in a very competitive +45A @ Millville that an following years LOL. Raced a lot of moto for 10 years after diagnosis and won plus 50A and plus 55 A Racer X vet series and continue to ride moto @ 63. NSR (Never Stop Riding)









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R VanKamp77
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11/3/2022 8:09am
Rotaholic wrote:
Long time sufferer from chronic fatigue ME/CFS. Im still able to the things I love in moderation but it was, and still is a long learning...
Long time sufferer from chronic fatigue ME/CFS. Im still able to the things I love in moderation but it was, and still is a long learning curve. With all the long covid stuff going on in the world, doctors/scientists will have much more data, testing and treatments for post viral fatigue in the future.

Don't count the days, make the days count!
Long Covid? They say vaccination helps with that. Did you get it?
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erik_94COBRA
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11/3/2022 9:21am
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
Yes. I inadvertently went on a high fat/moderate protein/low carbohydrate diet in 2013. I lost quite a bit of weight and had other health improvements.

After I was sure it was going to stay off, I made a post about it and received a lot of flak:
https://www.thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1114701-weight-loss-after-ditc…

I'm now back to 198 lbs due to lifting heavy weights for about 2 years (+5-10 lbs), and now drinking quite a bit more. When I stop drinking and eat more disciplined it falls back off in weeks. I also sleep better, think more clearly, and have a better attitude.

Without question, eating is 80% (at least) of the reason you and others have the problems they do. The other 20% is some combination of environment, genetic disposition, and other factors. Chronically high blood glucose and high insulin levels are the causes of all these various malfunctions. Your eyes (and kidneys, and other parts) are very sensitive to blood glucose levels in particular.

For those who have Long Covid or developed problems after an injection, look here:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-recover-long-covi…



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Moto Nomad
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11/3/2022 10:29am
I discovered that when I don't train, party a lot, and don't practice much, I don't do well at the races.Laughing
sam hain
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11/3/2022 10:35am
I have a rare blood disorder that makes me sick as a dog for several hours if I race when its warm/hot. Nausea that feels like someone cutting your guts out and puking, it will last around 2hrs then the feeling when its gone is better than sex Laughing
Rotaholic
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11/3/2022 11:37am Edited Date/Time 11/3/2022 11:38am
Rotaholic wrote:
Long time sufferer from chronic fatigue ME/CFS. Im still able to the things I love in moderation but it was, and still is a long learning...
Long time sufferer from chronic fatigue ME/CFS. Im still able to the things I love in moderation but it was, and still is a long learning curve. With all the long covid stuff going on in the world, doctors/scientists will have much more data, testing and treatments for post viral fatigue in the future.

Don't count the days, make the days count!
Long Covid? They say vaccination helps with that. Did you get it?
No not me, but from what I understand is people that have covid and then try and push through it before they're well get long covid, regardless of being vaccinated or not. Probably better to call it post viral fatigue rather than long covid because you can get it from epstein barr etc
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DanielsenMX
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11/3/2022 4:22pm
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
The best advice I can give you, sourced from years of study, is transition to a whole food plant-based diet. If you take a deep dive into the literature, and be careful to source unbiased studies (you can find the conflicts of interest published in the study on PubMed), you'll ultimately find a WFPB diet is the only way of eating proven to suspend and reverse type two diabetes and heart disease. I've been vegan for eight years now and am healthy as a horse, with normal insulin sensitivity, perfect cholesterol, and virtually no chance of ever suffering from heart disease. Dementia is also less likely as the blood vessels in my brain will remain clear of buildup. The blood vessels to the nether region will also remain clear!

This is going to cause a shitstorm in this thread, I'm well aware, so I will not be responding to any comments.

Wish you all the best on your journey to health and vitality. I feel so fortunate to have come across this invaluable information all those years ago.
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Tim507
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11/3/2022 4:52pm
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
The best advice I can give you, sourced from years of study, is transition to a whole food plant-based diet. If you take a deep dive...
The best advice I can give you, sourced from years of study, is transition to a whole food plant-based diet. If you take a deep dive into the literature, and be careful to source unbiased studies (you can find the conflicts of interest published in the study on PubMed), you'll ultimately find a WFPB diet is the only way of eating proven to suspend and reverse type two diabetes and heart disease. I've been vegan for eight years now and am healthy as a horse, with normal insulin sensitivity, perfect cholesterol, and virtually no chance of ever suffering from heart disease. Dementia is also less likely as the blood vessels in my brain will remain clear of buildup. The blood vessels to the nether region will also remain clear!

This is going to cause a shitstorm in this thread, I'm well aware, so I will not be responding to any comments.

Wish you all the best on your journey to health and vitality. I feel so fortunate to have come across this invaluable information all those years ago.
I started down this path, however my teeth started hurt and then loosened up. I went back to a some meat protein and that symptom disappeared.

On another note I lived in the Renton area until 1985. Know Maple Valley all to well!
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11/3/2022 5:38pm
I had covid dec 20 into jan of 21. Never left my bed for 3 weeks. I started getting better, then all of the sudden went downhill!!

No energy, joint pain, limited mobility, breathing issues. Dr thought it was long covid. Seen a few drs and rhumatologists. All had a different opinion. I finally got into KU Med center and they diagnosed me with systemic schleroderma. It is a bitch of a disease with no cure.

I did finally ride again about 2 weeks after not being on the bike for a year. I didnt go very fast, but damn i had fun!!!
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R VanKamp77
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11/3/2022 8:19pm
When I hear about vegans and vegs gaining their health back from the switch to plant based diets, I always want to know what they were eating before.....
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captmoto
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11/4/2022 4:29pm
sandman768 wrote:
I ride better after having a few beers the night before…. Is what it is…..
I was hungover when I won my first race as a 250 novice. I went out there with no fucks to give.
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idworx
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11/4/2022 4:56pm
Just check your sodium and iron levels on a regular basis, especially when it is hot!
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prozach
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11/5/2022 6:05am Edited Date/Time 11/5/2022 6:12am
Last year I was going wacky crazy off and on and not able to wake up randomly in the morning. ( Like in a coma state). Turned out I had an ultra rare insulinoma tumor on my pancreas pumping out unregulated insulin. Basically had to consume sugar non-stop all day. Constantly dropping my blood sugar into the low 30s.

Got worse with physical activity. Put on 25 pound having to wake up and eat 2-3 times a night to stay alive. Finally got that bitch cut out. Spent 27 days in the hospital from complications, but I'm doing great now 4 1/2 months later. Took 6 months for my Drs to figure it out and some of them thinking I was just going crazy.
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FreshTopEnd
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11/5/2022 7:20pm
Certainly had more endurance after getting a new heart.
Muttly wrote:
You’re definitely putting in some longevity numbers. Congratulations.
"You’re reminded to enjoy every sandwich and every minute playing with the guys, and being with the kids." ~ Warren Zevon
11/6/2022 12:58am
Fitness and overall health improved with the following: Stop smoking (weed) Reduce alcohol Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies Eat no...
Fitness and overall health improved with the following:

Stop smoking (weed)
Reduce alcohol
Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies
Eat no more than 2 meals a day, all before 5:00 PM
Cut out carbs, sugar and all processed foods
Drink a gallon of water a day
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming...
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming the reason to have all the meals completed by five is a metabolism related thing?
If you stop eating by 5:00 PM and don't eat again until 7:00 AM the following morning, you're giving yourself 14 hours of intermittent fasting. Very...
If you stop eating by 5:00 PM and don't eat again until 7:00 AM the following morning, you're giving yourself 14 hours of intermittent fasting. Very hard to do with a family, for sure, unless you choose not to eat on their schedule.

The three meals a day thing is what's wrong with American diet. And also the desire to eat something different every day. I tried the carnivore diet for a brief period of time, but ultimately settled on keto being the ideal diet for me. Eating some veggies is beneficial. I do find eating one big protein loaded meal a day minimizes my hunger throughout the day. It's pretty easy to go 14+ hours without getting the munchies.
My opinion is to eat everything in moderation. Portion meal into protein, good fats/ some carbs and veges.

80% good eating, 20% not so good but good to eat! Enjoy don’t feel guilty! This internet has turned food into the devil. You can’t go through life not enjoying the odd burger, fries and a beer etc.

Everything in moderation and try exercise most days be it a few squats, lunges one days or a run the next. Even a walk. Get out in the fresh air!!

Keto, Paleo, fasting etc IMO a fad, but end off the day what works for YOU!

Eat well most of the time and excercise. No secret and no “plan” to sign up too!
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