MXGP Rumours/Silly season

Muscle-Milk-KTM 10/3/2022 12:13pm
10/3/2022 12:13pm
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Are we going to see any British riders in MXGP next year?Looking like there’s a pretty slim chance at the moment
Where will Watson end up?
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Stevie.b2288 10/3/2022 1:38pm
10/3/2022 1:38pm
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Are we going to see any British riders in MXGP next year?Looking like there’s a pretty slim chance at the moment
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
Where will Watson end up?
Not sure but may not end up doing a full MXGP season and just maybe Euro gp’s as I can’t see home singing for a decent team at the moment. Thought his best bet was gebben but think he will struggle to even get that ride
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roninho 10/3/2022 10:48pm
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I see Davy Pootjes listed at JWR (with ?) on the list by Kemco posted a bit earlier (thanks for that update btw!).

But that can't be possible right, that Pootjes gets a ride after what he showed this season?
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tek14 10/4/2022 12:11am
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roninho wrote:
I see Davy Pootjes listed at JWR (with ?) on the list by Kemco posted a bit earlier (thanks for that update btw!). But that can't...
I see Davy Pootjes listed at JWR (with ?) on the list by Kemco posted a bit earlier (thanks for that update btw!).

But that can't be possible right, that Pootjes gets a ride after what he showed this season?
I think you can pay your way in these teams. Not sure if he has personal sponsors that will cover cost anyway.

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roninho 10/4/2022 12:50am
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Yeah for sure you can pay your way into a team. But just look at his GP's this year ...:

Sweden: did ride in warm up, not in races
Belgium: did ride in warm up, not in races
Czech: did ride in warm up, did 0 laps in moto 1, nothing in moto 2
Germany: Finished a lap down in moto 1, 13 laps down in moto2
France: did ride in warm up, not in races
Great Britain: did ride in warm up, not in races

I have no idea what the reason is for this, and i also understand why some teams need to take a paying rider due to budget issues, but why would it help a team (and Pootjes) to spend money and simply not ride the motos...?
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Snapper 10/4/2022 2:51am
10/4/2022 2:51am
roninho wrote:
Yeah for sure you can pay your way into a team. But just look at his GP's this year ...: Sweden: did ride in warm up...
Yeah for sure you can pay your way into a team. But just look at his GP's this year ...:

Sweden: did ride in warm up, not in races
Belgium: did ride in warm up, not in races
Czech: did ride in warm up, did 0 laps in moto 1, nothing in moto 2
Germany: Finished a lap down in moto 1, 13 laps down in moto2
France: did ride in warm up, not in races
Great Britain: did ride in warm up, not in races

I have no idea what the reason is for this, and i also understand why some teams need to take a paying rider due to budget issues, but why would it help a team (and Pootjes) to spend money and simply not ride the motos...?
I just had a look at those events. Looks like he is just off the pace. You'd think racing the motos would help with that but finding three seconds a lap isn't easy.
chuckdavies 10/4/2022 3:25am
10/4/2022 3:25am
roninho wrote:
Yeah for sure you can pay your way into a team. But just look at his GP's this year ...: Sweden: did ride in warm up...
Yeah for sure you can pay your way into a team. But just look at his GP's this year ...:

Sweden: did ride in warm up, not in races
Belgium: did ride in warm up, not in races
Czech: did ride in warm up, did 0 laps in moto 1, nothing in moto 2
Germany: Finished a lap down in moto 1, 13 laps down in moto2
France: did ride in warm up, not in races
Great Britain: did ride in warm up, not in races

I have no idea what the reason is for this, and i also understand why some teams need to take a paying rider due to budget issues, but why would it help a team (and Pootjes) to spend money and simply not ride the motos...?
They are some crazy stats :D
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inthebadboycorner 10/4/2022 3:34am
10/4/2022 3:34am
145mx wrote:
Stamp Mitch Evans alongside Febvre at Kawasaki 😉
I really hope so, his recent results show there is some speed there.
Stevie.b2288 10/4/2022 3:48am
10/4/2022 3:48am
145mx wrote:
Stamp Mitch Evans alongside Febvre at Kawasaki 😉
inthebadboycorner wrote:
I really hope so, his recent results show there is some speed there.
Pretty sure Mitch at kawi is a done deal. did hear about his hip break but pretty sure he will be good to go start of the season and shouldn’t effect him signing for them. Can see some decent riders not being involved at all in MXGP next season and even with them helping out with freight cost and lowering entry fees I think the gates will be low again next season and if something doesn’t improve could actually see it disappears all together
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Neo78 10/4/2022 3:54am
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145mx wrote:
Stamp Mitch Evans alongside Febvre at Kawasaki 😉
inthebadboycorner wrote:
I really hope so, his recent results show there is some speed there.
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Pretty sure Mitch at kawi is a done deal. did hear about his hip break but pretty sure he will be good to go start of...
Pretty sure Mitch at kawi is a done deal. did hear about his hip break but pretty sure he will be good to go start of the season and shouldn’t effect him signing for them. Can see some decent riders not being involved at all in MXGP next season and even with them helping out with freight cost and lowering entry fees I think the gates will be low again next season and if something doesn’t improve could actually see it disappears all together
Have to agree mate. Can see this year or next, being the last year of MXGP.
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philip_DJ 10/4/2022 4:18am
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And what about Husqvarna 450 side? Any news on that?
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Neo78 10/4/2022 4:30am
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philip_DJ wrote:
And what about Husqvarna 450 side? Any news on that?
Sidelined whilst they fit electric motors…
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LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 4:32am
10/4/2022 4:32am
roninho wrote:
I see Davy Pootjes listed at JWR (with ?) on the list by Kemco posted a bit earlier (thanks for that update btw!). But that can't...
I see Davy Pootjes listed at JWR (with ?) on the list by Kemco posted a bit earlier (thanks for that update btw!).

But that can't be possible right, that Pootjes gets a ride after what he showed this season?
JWR haven't signed any riders yet but it's unlikely that Pootjes will be back there.

Oh, he wasn't paying for his ride this year either. The team paid him a salary.
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LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 4:34am
10/4/2022 4:34am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2022 4:35am
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Are we going to see any British riders in MXGP next year?Looking like there’s a pretty slim chance at the moment
Conrad will wildcard a few MXGP rounds, supposedly, but I can't see it... When has that ever worked for someone on Dave Thorpe's team?

Joel Rizzi will be in MX2 again, but that's all that's confirmed at the moment. Watson is still out there.
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Freddy 10/4/2022 4:39am
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roninho wrote:
Yeah for sure you can pay your way into a team. But just look at his GP's this year ...: Sweden: did ride in warm up...
Yeah for sure you can pay your way into a team. But just look at his GP's this year ...:

Sweden: did ride in warm up, not in races
Belgium: did ride in warm up, not in races
Czech: did ride in warm up, did 0 laps in moto 1, nothing in moto 2
Germany: Finished a lap down in moto 1, 13 laps down in moto2
France: did ride in warm up, not in races
Great Britain: did ride in warm up, not in races

I have no idea what the reason is for this, and i also understand why some teams need to take a paying rider due to budget issues, but why would it help a team (and Pootjes) to spend money and simply not ride the motos...?
In an interview with the team boss he said that Davy was never happy with his suspension, but he was also around 7 seconds off the second to last guy and that he never put and effort in and that suspension doesnt work very well when just riding around. 😄
LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 4:40am
10/4/2022 4:40am
philip_DJ wrote:
And what about Husqvarna 450 side? Any news on that?
No Husqvarna riders in MXGP (factory at least) next year, but it sounds like that could change in 2024.
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roninho 10/4/2022 4:44am
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LewisPhillips wrote:
JWR haven't signed any riders yet but it's unlikely that Pootjes will be back there. Oh, he wasn't paying for his ride this year either. The...
JWR haven't signed any riders yet but it's unlikely that Pootjes will be back there.

Oh, he wasn't paying for his ride this year either. The team paid him a salary.
A salary ...? Damn that is money not so well spend .... Woohoo
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philG 10/4/2022 4:48am
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Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Pretty sure Mitch at kawi is a done deal. did hear about his hip break but pretty sure he will be good to go start of...
Pretty sure Mitch at kawi is a done deal. did hear about his hip break but pretty sure he will be good to go start of the season and shouldn’t effect him signing for them. Can see some decent riders not being involved at all in MXGP next season and even with them helping out with freight cost and lowering entry fees I think the gates will be low again next season and if something doesn’t improve could actually see it disappears all together
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha , this year, on the Honda, so will he be better or worse.

Watson hasnt forgotten how to ride, he would be a good fit at Gebben, they get what is needed.
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roninho 10/4/2022 4:49am
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Freddy wrote:
In an interview with the team boss he said that Davy was never happy with his suspension, but he was also around 7 seconds off the...
In an interview with the team boss he said that Davy was never happy with his suspension, but he was also around 7 seconds off the second to last guy and that he never put and effort in and that suspension doesnt work very well when just riding around. 😄
The 7 seconds off to the second to last guy was not at all the case in the timed practices. He never qualified last and had GP's where he put 5+ riders behind him.

it was more like he was on and off during the weekend. I watched him at Lommel this year, and it was like night and day between different sessions. He looked pretty fast in first practice & timed practiced and then just mailed it in the other sessions and didnt even line up for the races.
LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 4:50am
10/4/2022 4:50am
philG wrote:
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha...
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha , this year, on the Honda, so will he be better or worse.

Watson hasnt forgotten how to ride, he would be a good fit at Gebben, they get what is needed.
I would have liked to see Watson at Gebben too, but the last that I heard was that they want their second guy to pay.
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Hegz 10/4/2022 4:52am
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philG wrote:
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha...
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha , this year, on the Honda, so will he be better or worse.

Watson hasnt forgotten how to ride, he would be a good fit at Gebben, they get what is needed.
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I would have liked to see Watson at Gebben too, but the last that I heard was that they want their second guy to pay.
Monticelli?
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Motofinne 10/4/2022 4:53am
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philG wrote:
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha...
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha , this year, on the Honda, so will he be better or worse.

Watson hasnt forgotten how to ride, he would be a good fit at Gebben, they get what is needed.
LewisPhillips wrote:
I would have liked to see Watson at Gebben too, but the last that I heard was that they want their second guy to pay.
Ivo Monticelli says hello in the most Italian way possible
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LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 4:53am
10/4/2022 4:53am
philG wrote:
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha...
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha , this year, on the Honda, so will he be better or worse.

Watson hasnt forgotten how to ride, he would be a good fit at Gebben, they get what is needed.
LewisPhillips wrote:
I would have liked to see Watson at Gebben too, but the last that I heard was that they want their second guy to pay.
Hegz wrote:
Monticelli?
Monticelli will be in the British Championship with the ASA team, I believe. He told MXGP teams that he doesn't want to pay anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if Gebben just run Vlaanderen.
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Stevie.b2288 10/4/2022 5:02am
10/4/2022 5:02am
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Pretty sure Mitch at kawi is a done deal. did hear about his hip break but pretty sure he will be good to go start of...
Pretty sure Mitch at kawi is a done deal. did hear about his hip break but pretty sure he will be good to go start of the season and shouldn’t effect him signing for them. Can see some decent riders not being involved at all in MXGP next season and even with them helping out with freight cost and lowering entry fees I think the gates will be low again next season and if something doesn’t improve could actually see it disappears all together
philG wrote:
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha...
Be interesting to see how Evans does. Second year for the team , you could argue he has had a season like Watson had on Yamaha , this year, on the Honda, so will he be better or worse.

Watson hasnt forgotten how to ride, he would be a good fit at Gebben, they get what is needed.
yeah will be interesting to see how mitch does. I do believe he has more raw speed and if he stays fit I see him on the podium a lot next year and even some overalls too.
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themac100 10/4/2022 5:16am
10/4/2022 5:16am
Kevin Brumann was testing a JM Honda a few weeks back at Lommel

Alvin Ostlund will be on a JWR Honda

I thought Bobby Bruce was doing Mx2 next year also?

Guillod, Beaton got anything?
LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 5:26am
10/4/2022 5:26am
themac100 wrote:
Kevin Brumann was testing a JM Honda a few weeks back at Lommel Alvin Ostlund will be on a JWR Honda I thought Bobby Bruce was...
Kevin Brumann was testing a JM Honda a few weeks back at Lommel

Alvin Ostlund will be on a JWR Honda

I thought Bobby Bruce was doing Mx2 next year also?

Guillod, Beaton got anything?
I forgot about Ostlund going to JWR! Bobby Bruce's plans confuse me... It seems nothing is clear.

Nothing for Beaton or Guillod at the moment. Not many options now, as a lot of guys are scared of JWR.
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Stevie.b2288 10/4/2022 5:27am
10/4/2022 5:27am
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Are we going to see any British riders in MXGP next year?Looking like there’s a pretty slim chance at the moment
LewisPhillips wrote:
Conrad will wildcard a few MXGP rounds, supposedly, but I can't see it... When has that ever worked for someone on Dave Thorpe's team? Joel Rizzi...
Conrad will wildcard a few MXGP rounds, supposedly, but I can't see it... When has that ever worked for someone on Dave Thorpe's team?

Joel Rizzi will be in MX2 again, but that's all that's confirmed at the moment. Watson is still out there.
Hey Lewis, have to agree, can’t see Conrad doing any MXGP. Same with Tommy he always said he wanted to do some MXGP rides but it never happened. Is this why Tommy signed for REVO? Could we see Tommy doing some MXGP or AMA stuff next season I commented on his YouTube video from MXON asking about doing some big races for his last year and he said it’s on the cards. That would be some great content
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LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 5:30am
10/4/2022 5:30am
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Are we going to see any British riders in MXGP next year?Looking like there’s a pretty slim chance at the moment
LewisPhillips wrote:
Conrad will wildcard a few MXGP rounds, supposedly, but I can't see it... When has that ever worked for someone on Dave Thorpe's team? Joel Rizzi...
Conrad will wildcard a few MXGP rounds, supposedly, but I can't see it... When has that ever worked for someone on Dave Thorpe's team?

Joel Rizzi will be in MX2 again, but that's all that's confirmed at the moment. Watson is still out there.
Stevie.b2288 wrote:
Hey Lewis, have to agree, can’t see Conrad doing any MXGP. Same with Tommy he always said he wanted to do some MXGP rides but it...
Hey Lewis, have to agree, can’t see Conrad doing any MXGP. Same with Tommy he always said he wanted to do some MXGP rides but it never happened. Is this why Tommy signed for REVO? Could we see Tommy doing some MXGP or AMA stuff next season I commented on his YouTube video from MXON asking about doing some big races for his last year and he said it’s on the cards. That would be some great content
If Tommy feels like he is riding well then, yeah, I think he will do a round of MXGP or Pro Motocross. That wasn't why he moved though. Everything lined up so that the Revo deal was better than anything else by quite a way.
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themac100 10/4/2022 5:32am
10/4/2022 5:32am
themac100 wrote:
Kevin Brumann was testing a JM Honda a few weeks back at Lommel Alvin Ostlund will be on a JWR Honda I thought Bobby Bruce was...
Kevin Brumann was testing a JM Honda a few weeks back at Lommel

Alvin Ostlund will be on a JWR Honda

I thought Bobby Bruce was doing Mx2 next year also?

Guillod, Beaton got anything?
LewisPhillips wrote:
I forgot about Ostlund going to JWR! Bobby Bruce's plans confuse me... It seems nothing is clear. Nothing for Beaton or Guillod at the moment. Not...
I forgot about Ostlund going to JWR! Bobby Bruce's plans confuse me... It seems nothing is clear.

Nothing for Beaton or Guillod at the moment. Not many options now, as a lot of guys are scared of JWR.
Why are guys scared of JWR?
LewisPhillips 10/4/2022 5:34am
10/4/2022 5:34am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2022 5:34am
themac100 wrote:
Kevin Brumann was testing a JM Honda a few weeks back at Lommel Alvin Ostlund will be on a JWR Honda I thought Bobby Bruce was...
Kevin Brumann was testing a JM Honda a few weeks back at Lommel

Alvin Ostlund will be on a JWR Honda

I thought Bobby Bruce was doing Mx2 next year also?

Guillod, Beaton got anything?
LewisPhillips wrote:
I forgot about Ostlund going to JWR! Bobby Bruce's plans confuse me... It seems nothing is clear. Nothing for Beaton or Guillod at the moment. Not...
I forgot about Ostlund going to JWR! Bobby Bruce's plans confuse me... It seems nothing is clear.

Nothing for Beaton or Guillod at the moment. Not many options now, as a lot of guys are scared of JWR.
themac100 wrote:
Why are guys scared of JWR?
Scared was the wrong word... Some guys are hesitant about whether the package is going to be good enough.

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