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BobbyM 9/3/2022 3:01pm
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dsc131 wrote:
One line. Usable racing area looks about 5 feet wide in lots of places.

Big difference from last weeks awesome track.
Track looks pretty good and no dust. It could be worse and the racing was great. Carry on with all the whiny ass posts.
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yak651 9/3/2022 4:15pm
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VetRider97 wrote:
Track does look really crappy and single lined . Don't understand why MX Sports goes back to Pala at end of season when it's a hot...
Track does look really crappy and single lined .

Don't understand why MX Sports goes back to Pala at end of season when it's a hot and very dry location at end of August. It definitely takes away form the visual aspect of the sport which is important in my opinion and certainly doesn't do anything for the sport. After watching racing on 10 other excellent tracks it really makes Pala look bad.
Same reason they tried MAV for streaming. Way for them to make more $$$$
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BobbyM 9/3/2022 4:32pm
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VetRider97 wrote:
Track does look really crappy and single lined . Don't understand why MX Sports goes back to Pala at end of season when it's a hot...
Track does look really crappy and single lined .

Don't understand why MX Sports goes back to Pala at end of season when it's a hot and very dry location at end of August. It definitely takes away form the visual aspect of the sport which is important in my opinion and certainly doesn't do anything for the sport. After watching racing on 10 other excellent tracks it really makes Pala look bad.
yak651 wrote:
Same reason they tried MAV for streaming. Way for them to make more $$$$
Who's them? And way/how they make more money?
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OCgoon1533 9/3/2022 4:43pm
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Other than the rock hard sections in the back, I think it looks pretty good.
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Yeti831 9/3/2022 5:24pm
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mtl wrote:
Of those poo pooing Pala, who have ridden the track?
Ridden or raced?

Great track, super fun but would not want to race it for 30+.
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FHKRacingZ 9/3/2022 5:28pm
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I thought that was a perfect final track the way the racing played out… Super rough, super fast and the cream rose to the top again with 4 great races…
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TeamGreen 9/3/2022 5:36pm
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mtl wrote:
Of those poo pooing Pala, who have ridden the track?
Yeti831 wrote:
Ridden or raced?

Great track, super fun but would not want to race it for 30+.
Shiiit…

I’ve even raced it/qualified for Mammoth on the Main Track…on my CRF450X Grinning
This is the 1st 4 Stroke Honda I ever rode there…2018…?

The palace is a Blast. Especially on a fresh YZ450F.

But, let’s not allow any of that to interfere with the Vital Bitchfest!
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BAMX 9/3/2022 5:39pm
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mtl wrote:
Of those poo pooing Pala, who have ridden the track?
It's 15 minutes from my house and I hardly ever go there. Other tracks near by are worth the drive.
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Ozy 9/3/2022 5:47pm
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It's a motocross track - what's not to like?

Go find some youtube videos on the GP's at Carlsbad or the AMA National at Saddleback. If you think this track sucks you would hate the blue groove. Most old timers consider Carlsbad and Saddleback and legendary and iconic.

Perspective is everything. We got to watch 12 rounds of amazing motocross live every weekend!! STOKED!!
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RonSkj 9/3/2022 6:10pm
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It may or may not be great for riding or racing from a riders prospective. But of a fan that's going as a spectator, it sucks ass!
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yak651 9/3/2022 6:23pm
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VetRider97 wrote:
Track does look really crappy and single lined . Don't understand why MX Sports goes back to Pala at end of season when it's a hot...
Track does look really crappy and single lined .

Don't understand why MX Sports goes back to Pala at end of season when it's a hot and very dry location at end of August. It definitely takes away form the visual aspect of the sport which is important in my opinion and certainly doesn't do anything for the sport. After watching racing on 10 other excellent tracks it really makes Pala look bad.
yak651 wrote:
Same reason they tried MAV for streaming. Way for them to make more $$$$
BobbyM wrote:
Who's them? And way/how they make more money?
MXSports-they could’ve went with another service but to get paid they went with MAV
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mxracer591 9/3/2022 6:33pm
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davermz450 wrote:
Genuine question, what are some tracks you guys think would be better that aren’t already on the schedule?
Baja Acres in Michigan
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 6:36pm
9/3/2022 6:36pm
dsc131 wrote:
Here’s some for debate:

Freestone
Gatorback
Tomahawk
Glen Helen
Loretta’s
Cahuilla Creek
South of the Border
Tomahawk is an embarrassing track to float the idea of holding a national. Gatorback is also a really bad track. All the others would be fine with the right prep
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 6:45pm
9/3/2022 6:45pm
The only two tracks worthwhile tracks that have been mentioned recently as possible nationals would be monster mountain and golden pines
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yz133rider 9/3/2022 7:21pm
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dsc131 wrote:
Here’s some for debate:

Freestone
Gatorback
Tomahawk
Glen Helen
Loretta’s
Cahuilla Creek
South of the Border
Harambe Nanny wrote:
Tomahawk is an embarrassing track to float the idea of holding a national. Gatorback is also a really bad track. All the others would be fine...
Tomahawk is an embarrassing track to float the idea of holding a national. Gatorback is also a really bad track. All the others would be fine with the right prep
Are you drunk? How is tomahawk embarrassing? The only thing is could the facility handle the parking.

The track itself is amazing.

Have you watched Stepek ride there when it’s rough and deep? It’s beyond comprehension how insane that track is.
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 7:26pm
9/3/2022 7:26pm
yz133rider wrote:
Are you drunk? How is tomahawk embarrassing? The only thing is could the facility handle the parking. The track itself is amazing. Have you watched Stepek...
Are you drunk? How is tomahawk embarrassing? The only thing is could the facility handle the parking.

The track itself is amazing.

Have you watched Stepek ride there when it’s rough and deep? It’s beyond comprehension how insane that track is.
I’ve ridden tomahawk dozens of times. Usually cause it was the only track open in my area. The soil is not natural at all, the base is unbelievably hard pack freeway style. And they laid a bunch of rough sloppily cut wood chips on top. This track is also not technical at all, its not overly high speed but just sort of a silly layout in general . The quality of the dirt is really what disqualifies the track even as a suggestion for a national. And who cares about how fast some local pro can roll around a freeway
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yz133rider 9/3/2022 7:31pm
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yz133rider wrote:
Are you drunk? How is tomahawk embarrassing? The only thing is could the facility handle the parking. The track itself is amazing. Have you watched Stepek...
Are you drunk? How is tomahawk embarrassing? The only thing is could the facility handle the parking.

The track itself is amazing.

Have you watched Stepek ride there when it’s rough and deep? It’s beyond comprehension how insane that track is.
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I’ve ridden tomahawk dozens of times. Usually cause it was the only track open in my area. The soil is not natural at all, the base...
I’ve ridden tomahawk dozens of times. Usually cause it was the only track open in my area. The soil is not natural at all, the base is unbelievably hard pack freeway style. And they laid a bunch of rough sloppily cut wood chips on top. This track is also not technical at all, its not overly high speed but just sort of a silly layout in general . The quality of the dirt is really what disqualifies the track even as a suggestion for a national. And who cares about how fast some local pro can roll around a freeway
A freeway? You’ve ridden it dozens of times and refer to it as a freeway?

Sloppily cut wood chips on top? Have you only gone there in the winter or something? I’ve probably been there hundreds of times and talked to dozens of people and nobody has ever described it the way you are.
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 7:36pm
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yz133rider wrote:
A freeway? You’ve ridden it dozens of times and refer to it as a freeway? Sloppily cut wood chips on top? Have you only gone there...
A freeway? You’ve ridden it dozens of times and refer to it as a freeway?

Sloppily cut wood chips on top? Have you only gone there in the winter or something? I’ve probably been there hundreds of times and talked to dozens of people and nobody has ever described it the way you are.
I’m not sure who you’re talking to that characterizes this place as “deep”. Literally the most hard pack track on the planet and only gets a rut in the one corner up in the woods and only after a heavy rain. The rest of the time it’s just loose wood chip burms. I’m sorry dawg but you’re track doesn’t rut up and it ain’t deep. Tomahawk is cancer and it’s another track that just gets an area qualifier every year cause the owner is pals with DC
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yz133rider 9/3/2022 7:38pm
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You must have had bad luck every single time you’ve gone there.

Your mind is made up, but I’ve been there countless times where it’s prepped and so deep that even downhills you need to be on the gas to not slow down. And the uphills forget about it.

But whatever 🤷‍♂️
Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 7:43pm
9/3/2022 7:43pm
yz133rider wrote:
You must have had bad luck every single time you’ve gone there. Your mind is made up, but I’ve been there countless times where it’s prepped...
You must have had bad luck every single time you’ve gone there.

Your mind is made up, but I’ve been there countless times where it’s prepped and so deep that even downhills you need to be on the gas to not slow down. And the uphills forget about it.

But whatever 🤷‍♂️
If you enjoy riding tomahawk then carry on. I don’t mean to let the air out of your balloon. I got so tired of having to choose between doublin and tomahawk my choices were literally to move or blow my brains out. Ended up in Arizona
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AS64 9/3/2022 7:44pm
9/3/2022 7:44pm Edited Date/Time 9/3/2022 7:49pm
Freestone should have never left the schedule.
That being said, great racing today whether you like Pala or not. Passes were made, creative lines were used. Track wasn’t overly dusty. Solid day overall
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 7:56pm
9/3/2022 7:56pm
AS64 wrote:
Freestone should have never left the schedule. That being said, great racing today whether you like Pala or not. Passes were made, creative lines were used...
Freestone should have never left the schedule.
That being said, great racing today whether you like Pala or not. Passes were made, creative lines were used. Track wasn’t overly dusty. Solid day overall
Yeah actually freestone was way hotter than Pala and race time never got cut. Good track too. The owner just said I’m not going to lose money . Very unfair how MXSports treats business partners
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hubbardmx50 9/3/2022 8:01pm
9/3/2022 8:01pm
I ride Pala often and was getting sick of the excessive hate from all you eastcoast bros, but I have to say that track absolutely sucked balls. Horrible prep
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caviar&cigarettes338 9/3/2022 8:01pm
9/3/2022 8:01pm
dsmith wrote:
There should be a rule... following season can't have the same tracks.... except redbud..
LouisianaMotocross wrote:
No. The circuit has a lot of good tracks. Only two I think could go away and we happen to race one of those twice.
What other track should go? I agree on Pala sucking but I think the other tracks belong and proper mx outdoor tracks
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yzinger 9/3/2022 8:11pm
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Man, I said after round 1 and I will say it again. This shithole unless major changes doesnt deserve to be on the schedule.....my god, never mind it was the best fight in years and it comes down to this track. My sons, I have been a DC supporter forever and in fact will continue, but my fuck Pala has got to go or else be in middle somewhere....
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LungButter 9/3/2022 8:12pm
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Harambe Nanny wrote:
If you enjoy riding tomahawk then carry on. I don’t mean to let the air out of your balloon. I got so tired of having to...
If you enjoy riding tomahawk then carry on. I don’t mean to let the air out of your balloon. I got so tired of having to choose between doublin and tomahawk my choices were literally to move or blow my brains out. Ended up in Arizona
If you’re gonna talk shit about moving somewhere for better moto, don’t say Arizona LOL

#credibilitylost
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 8:14pm
9/3/2022 8:14pm Edited Date/Time 9/3/2022 8:15pm
caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
What other track should go? I agree on Pala sucking but I think the other tracks belong and proper mx outdoor tracks
I don’t even have a problem with Pala if it’s just one round. But honestly as a fan, I’m sort of getting tired of watching the same tracks year after year. I understand a lot of the tracks are really good and have sentimental value. But after so many years of watching high point, red bud, south wick, unadilla, budds, etc. i just get tired of seeing the same old tracks over and over . Now I understand the peanut gallery is about to crucify me because these are “the best tracks ever” and “more sentimental than Christmas”
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Harambe Nanny 9/3/2022 8:18pm
9/3/2022 8:18pm
I think Millville is the quality of track we should expect from a pro national. The fact that most of the tracks on the circuit are so much worse is sort of a testament to the failure of the MXSports legacy system
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bhoag 9/3/2022 8:27pm
9/3/2022 8:27pm
Bring back Steel City for the final!
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bigk218 9/3/2022 8:40pm
9/3/2022 8:40pm
The fact that this track is even on the professional circuit blows my mind. Might be the worst track I’ve ever seen. I literally had to fast forward through the racing because I couldn’t take it.
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