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Horrid listening.
Forever that kid will be known as the kid that could of taken Haiden Deegan's bike.
I'm gutted that he didn't get it.
Basically everything I feel has been said minus the Caviar guy who must be Deegan, either that or his moral compass is so fucked up it's not even funny.
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Well, Brennan (who seems like a good kid), said in his initial video interview that his dealer (Chris from Motoplex) told him Yamaha said they were going to pull the dealers support and/or franchise if he went through with this claim. The dealer is saying did not say this.
It makes a lot of sense to a ton of people that there could have likely been a coalition between Walker and Luce to bully Brennan into changing his mind. Why the hell would Luce text Walker late at night and call him back to the track for an important meeting? If the Yamaha side was “ready to let the bike go” there would be no late night call to Walker to return to the track for a private meeting. Their coalition would have likely resulted in Walker telling the Dealer that Yamaha will pull support for his dealers if Brennan didn’t retract his claim. Walker obviously did the talking to keep Luce out of it, but used Luce’s presence as a threat to the Dealer. As a result, don’t you think it’s very possible that the Dealer told Brennan’s father they need to pull their claim for this reason (for fear of losing support from Yamaha)? If yes then Brennan isn’t lying, but instead relaying the information he learned from his Dad’s discussion with the Dealer. IMO, it would be very VERY likely for a Dealer to communicate this to the Dad during their private conversation. Why? Because it takes the Dealer’s opposing stance/opinions/emotion out of the equation and makes it a much more comfortable conversation to have with the Dad in order to justify the need for the claim to be removed. And just because you claim his Dealer said he didn’t say that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…anyone of these guys can be bluffing, so maybe keep an open mind to both sides.
Brennen said that it was Cotter and Deegan with him in a room, we know now Mike from AMA was in there also.
There was a lot of talk from Cotter on the layout of the trailer. Isn’t it possible that the layout of the trailer had Brennan facing the direction of Cotter and Deegan but he didn’t see Burkeen had entered the room or was standing in the back corner listening? Regardless whether Burkeen was in the room or not, or in front of Brennan’s face or not, 3-5 minutes of this, or 6 minutes according to Cotter, is 6 minutes way too long. It shouldn’t have happened, at ALL. This is a huge violation. Cotter seemed to care a lot about whether Brennan’s engine builder was his Dad while talking outside, but he didn’t seem to care about Brennan’s age when he took him inside by himself. Cotter said something along the lines of “I thought he was 18”. Well, unfortunately in the real world where there’s accountability, he could be terminated for this assumption no matter how good of a guy he might be.
Brennen never mentioned the motors from Yamaha in his initial video interview, first time was to me. That seems rather important fact no?
Isn’t it more important that it’s known Brennan approached Yamaha earlier in the week about those motors but didn’t get any support. But then after Brennan claimed the bike he gets a special late night meeting with Yamaha and they roll out the red carpet (a.k.a bribe) right after being threatened by the interrogation team? Just because Walker was doing the yelling, doesn’t mean Luce wasn’t part of the strongarming. Luce said, “I let Matt take the lead”. So if Luce is sitting there, going along with all the threats and yelling and he didn't object in any way, then he’s part of the bullying team too. Also, does Yamaha give two motors to all amateurs who ask for them? You made it seem like Yamaha was doing such a good gesture by taking care of his motors. Why weren’t his motors taken care of before he made the claim?
To me, THE most effed up thing in this was Brennen saying that Yamaha was threatening this dealer..if true, that's absolutely terrible. Brennen admitted to me he didn't know WHO told his dealer that AND the dealer said no one from Yamaha said anything to him about that
Read above for a logical explanation of where that came from. It’s very likely that Walker was used as the conduit for the Yamaha strongarming.
Brennan, who again SHOULD have this bike, has not been consistent in his side of the story. That's 100% true.
It’s very easy for you to say 14 times “He should have the bike” when he doesn’t actually have the bike. FYI – it’s not making you appear to be neutral in this situation when you are completely blind to any form of bullying or coalition from the guys who pay some of your bills.
A couple more things. The fact that you discussed the beef between these two kids shows intent to bash his character and paint a bad picture for his motivation/intent. His motivation or intent is completely irrelevant.
Finally, you seem to question Brennan's credibility due to his age....well, how old was that kid you let join your show to bash Brennan (friend of the Deegan's coincidentally)? Why would you let such a young kid who's not credible due to his age come onto the show and bash another kid? Seems like you had it all planned out.
I think it all turned on comms between Star, and the dealer.
'Yo, your guy is trying to get my $50,000 bike - what's up?'
"You succeed because you kiss ass" is the resentment song of failures.
He clearly doesn’t know how to be objective but only sees things his own way. Not surprised he is reporting in a way that protects his sponsors and keeps himself in good standing with “the cool kids”.
I know it’s been said by a few. But another shout out to ML for being objective and not burying this to protect the big fish.
Edit: although I stand by what I wrote above, I don’t know Steve personally so I formally apologize for the name calling with claiming he is a narcissist. Still don’t like him saying you have to be there to report but that doesn’t call for claiming he is something that I don’t know to be 100% true.
Yeah, I'm def known as the kiss ass in the pits. I've never been yelled at by promoters, teams, riders for talking about things they don't want to talk about. For sure, thats me.
I think the kids assertion that Yamaha threatened his dealer was wrong to say or insinuate because thats pretty serious stuff and it wasn't proven and denied by even the dealer. I def wanted to get that part out because if Yamaha did do that, that's effed IMO. I was pretty sure they didn't and it seems they did not.
I think saying Tim Cotter (who works for Racer X's sister company) should never have put the kid in a room, I'm on RXI's payroll, would I say that if I wanted to "build my empire"?
The great part of America is we can agree to disagree. Have a good day!
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In my opinion, the only person that should have talked to Brennan about this is the AMA. If that would have been the case, all of this would have been avoided.
Thanks for all of the content you put out and the same to ML...and to both of you for handling this particular situation well. Every other source was only telling one side and seemed to just want to stir the pot for clicks or whatever.
Seems like Walker just didn’t want to be known as the guy training the kid that claimed Deegans bike. It’s a shame, Brennan should have that bike right now.
Walker keeps saying that he just didn’t want this attached to Brennan, but it’s really himself he didn’t want it attached too.
I really rate your other podcasts you do, but I’ve drifted away from the Pulp show for the reason above.
Kudo’s for diving in here, but definitely a lot of agreeing to disagree.
You say if the kid should have gotten the bike and that this never would have been a problem if Deegan and the team just gave it up like they were supposed to. A Yamaha employee is directly involved in this, and is on record saying after he knew the kid wouldn't change his mind, he offered 2 free motors and a ride day at the goat farm.
Maybe even the past 20 years!
He pissed off the GOAT!
Wonder if RC is mad at him? lol
Also...
Cant help but to think of the time that Tony Alessi banned Matthes from his pit area and made that note/little sign that looked like it was written by a little kid.
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