CZ's were da shit at one time

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This was a 76, I had Stormy Winter to Lay Down/move up on my own Bilsteins. Stormy did most of Mike Kids motor and set up his AMA National Championship season. Stormy was another of our strong moto team that included Pat Richter & Villopoto's from the Unknown Coast.

That 76 Red Frame came with the Mikuni, but I added Motoplat, cut the fins, Snake Pipe, plastic air box, modded the tank to except the leading axle Marzochi's, Sun Rims, Heavy Spokes, Chain Tensioner, Tall Seat. It looks like the front brake lever got modded the same time as my ass in those JT's. That was a Redwood Acres Fairground race in Eureka, CA. Great moto community, but I can say the mods... although impressive for that era and a CZ never jelled. I had really no clue on bike set up and although the stroke, turnability worked great, that shock and fork set up I couldn't dial in.
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This was a 76, I had Stormy Winter to Lay Down/move up on my own Bilsteins. Stormy did most of Mike Kids motor and set up...
This was a 76, I had Stormy Winter to Lay Down/move up on my own Bilsteins. Stormy did most of Mike Kids motor and set up his AMA National Championship season. Stormy was another of our strong moto team that included Pat Richter & Villopoto's from the Unknown Coast.

That 76 Red Frame came with the Mikuni, but I added Motoplat, cut the fins, Snake Pipe, plastic air box, modded the tank to except the leading axle Marzochi's, Sun Rims, Heavy Spokes, Chain Tensioner, Tall Seat. It looks like the front brake lever got modded the same time as my ass in those JT's. That was a Redwood Acres Fairground race in Eureka, CA. Great moto community, but I can say the mods... although impressive for that era and a CZ never jelled. I had really no clue on bike set up and although the stroke, turnability worked great, that shock and fork set up I couldn't dial in.
Sounds like you went all out on that CZ.

My '73, had the rear suspension like yours & stock forks with 1 " extended damping rods, which we also modified for smoother dampening in the middle of the stroke. Maybe I just didn't know any better, but it felt good to me. Maybe a little unstable on the fast stuff, but quick turning and lots of grunt in the tight stuff.

The guys at The Dirt Shop in Beltsville Md (AMA D-7) were died in the wool CZ fanatics back then. I'm sure CZ sold a lot of bikes in the mid -Atlantic area because of them.

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I also had that extended rod kit before the marzochi's. I tried a set of subtanks Pat Richter had used when he was supported by CZ, I think that combo was set up better but they would snap about every time I stepped off which was pretty frequent in those days. Glad I outgrew that!
Anyway, I was involved in a head on returning from a race that thankfully no one was seriously hurt, but this CZ along with my YZ125 took a serious trip over the cab of my truck and spilling out across the hwy. Insurance replaced the forks, wheels and other hard parts. So yes, there wasn't many CZ's trying to keep up with the Japs and Maico's in 76. It was pretty much the end. I was on Yamaha's after until my 81 Maico 490.
Just like your Dirt Shop RBrider, Eureka Cycles and Assc Pat Richter and Fred Villopoto sold a lot of CZ's over on this coast
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I built this bike for the CZ World Championships and raced it a number of years. 83 Husky chassis with a CZ 380 motor.

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I heard the Russians ran footpegs that were just straight rods welded to the frame,
and sometimes laid the bike down, digging the peg into the dirt to help stop on the big downhills.Woohoo



When men were men.....
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And sheep were scared!
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I built this bike for the CZ World Championships and raced it a number of years. 83 Husky chassis with a CZ 380 motor. [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/bze2.jpg/][IMG]https://imageshack.us/a/img11/8911/bze2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
I built this bike for the CZ World Championships and raced it a number of years. 83 Husky chassis with a CZ 380 motor.

Nice! A 71 or 72 engine?

Grady, I read an interview with Roger D where he said his ankles still give him trouble from the days when he rode for CZ.
He blamed it on the non-folding footpegs they used in the '60's.

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The King, Showtime. GOAT, Fastest on the Planet, whatever.



Quite simply, The Man.
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Pretending to be the "man"
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Sold off my CZ collection earlier this year.......about 45 plus and many other 60's and early 70's MX bikes. Hated to see them go but storage was a costly challengeSad









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Wow Tim What a collection!
Impressive twin pipe 250 to say the least...Was that your highest sell?
i often wondered why CZ went away from that peanut tank to the yellow and then coffin tank design, Seemed like they took steps backwards.
They certainly were the shit from the mid 60's for a strong full decade.
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Sold them as a lot to buyer on the East Coast.....price was acceptableSmile I considered piece meal but my guess was several years to liquidate and then the $$$ dribble in and dribbles out. The lot sale allowed me to do something productive.....

Sorry to see them go and also relieved…..had some real sweet Maico’s, Bultaco’s, Montesa’s, Pentons, Husky, ………………




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Hat's off guy, you saved a bunch for history.

man, that blue one, I have never seen a blue one.

Was that 507 bike factory paint?

Unreal collection.

Anyone see a '74 Cappra out there for sale? A 250?
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Thanks Tim, I have to wipe off my keyboard.
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This was my Center Port CZ that I rode in Germany



This picture was at Gaildorf in 1974

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I was invited to a DAS Motard picture shoot in 1975. Thats me on the bikeWoohoo An awesome experiecne racing in Germany!!!!

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This bike came from Belgium - I traded a bunch of CZ motors to Rik Ballet for this bike. I'm not sure if the blue tank was a factory color - however it was a great color on this bike.

Picture was taken at Woodland WA.


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Thanks for posting Tim. Most impressive.

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My first bike was a 1972 CZ 250. It was bomb proof. I weighed about 110 lbs. and it weighed twice as much.
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Just amazing bikes, we have a blast on them at Unadilia Rewind, had to build my own
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I just went through this one last year. It has some CZ World Championship history from back in the early 80's.


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Still are.... Always will be.....
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Czguy_Lee wrote:
Still are.... Always will be..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/07/558506/s1200_0044.jpg[/img]
Still are.... Always will be.....
Not sure ,but you may have set a record in digging up the oldest thread -- 16 years !! CongratsWoohoo
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Tim507 wrote:
I was invited to a DAS Motard picture shoot in 1975. Thats me on the bike:woohoo: An awesome experiecne racing in Germany!!!! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/12/28/40279/s1200_Das_Motorad_1_1_JPG.jpg[/img]
I was invited to a DAS Motard picture shoot in 1975. Thats me on the bikeWoohoo An awesome experiecne racing in Germany!!!!

Nice! I got a Schulz Frame here and will build a big CZ with it
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Bone stock '73 (okay it had a Petty front fender) at the the '85 CZ National at Corona Raceway.
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The late Robin Hannah used this pic for a poster at the 2015 CZWC.... We conversed about this shot many years back but I'd lost the emails long ago.... Great shot.....
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Czguy_Lee wrote:
Still are.... Always will be..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/07/558506/s1200_0044.jpg[/img]
Still are.... Always will be.....
OldPro277 wrote:
Not sure ,but you may have set a record in digging up the oldest thread -- 16 years !! CongratsWoohoo
And it's as cool a thread today as it was back then.
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I raced a 250 CZ in the 70’s when I was a kid in Oklahoma. I think I bought it when I was a Jr. in high school, 1973.

Mechanic at a Suzuki shop I raced out of before I had the CZ gave me a Mikuni carb off a factory 250 Suzuki road race bike along with a had full of jets and said get an adapter, file a couple of millimeters off the back side of the piston, polish the ports and go racing kid. I remember him saying I can’t blame you for getting off that Suzuki, they can’t hold a candle to a CZ.

So I did what he said and had a lot of fun. I got to be a reasonable fast amateur I’d say. I moved the shocks forward, got my hands on a good set shocks and plastic tank from Mid Valley cycle sales in Van Nuys, Ca. Maybe a pipe too, can’t remember where it came from. I had my CZ tricked out pretty good, carried out a lot of groceries to get there.

I only ran the stock piston for short time. When I went with a Wiseco and did some more port work, I got that heavy CZ to move out pretty dang good. I hit the ground really hard at Big Red Motocross in Oklahoma City, ran over couple of times, another bike fell on me and took a foot pegs in the back. Woke up in the back of a Chevy truck a new didn’t have a clue where I was. Kinda lost some of my nerve after that.

Good times for kid from a small oil patch town of 13k people in Oklahoma.
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