Christian Craig just got the world off his back!

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5/8/2022 9:15am
AJ565 wrote:
That’s not accurate. 2011 is when racer x showed he raced 250’s for the first time and scored 3 points and only 1 point in 2012...
That’s not accurate. 2011 is when racer x showed he raced 250’s for the first time and scored 3 points and only 1 point in 2012. Vince Friese on the other hand did start racing 250’s in 2009, are you mad at him to for racing in the 250’s with CC this year or nah because he’s not winning?
Craig turned pro in 2009 man. Can’t argue with someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
You said he was racing the 250 class since 2009 not when he turned pro. Maybe proofread before posting? If you want to go off when he turned pro then Vince went pro in 2008 so you must really hate him since he’s been at it longer then CC.
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5/8/2022 9:19am Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 9:23am
[i]The guy never took a dive, he finally put it together, that’s all. [/i] Easy there. I'm not sure CC is know for "putting it together"...
The guy never took a dive, he finally put it together, that’s all.

Easy there. I'm not sure CC is know for "putting it together". This is a guy that had to have a light installed on his bar because he couldn't remember to breathe.

The work and the effort he (and Star) put in to winning the title is noted.

The hyperbole of all the stories of struggle and adversity is and has been a bit much. A get that he had a pretty major injury, but to extrapolate this to everything gets tiring. They're not exactly living on food stamps.....Christian married into money and a ride on his father-in-laws team which allowed him to springboard into some pretty good opportunities on first-rate equipment. His retirement was cut short when he found out that working a 9-5 day job sucks.

Congrats to him and his entire team. All said, he won a title, which is special. Now it's time to run with the big dogs.

DonM wrote:
So what's your point? The guy said "he finally put it together" This year he did put it together...it took him some time but he did...where...
So what's your point? The guy said "he finally put it together" This year he did put it together...it took him some time but he did...where he came from and who he is married too has zero to do with this...you want to blame him for the storyline TV created and hate him for it...that's fine but he's still the champion....can't take that away...
[i]So what's your point? The guy said "he finally put it together" This year he did put it together...it took him some time but he did...[/i]...
So what's your point? The guy said "he finally put it together" This year he did put it together...it took him some time but he did...

Point is he won a title with some good performances and the help of the currently best team in the 250 class for a few years running. And somewhat of a depleted field. Good news is now he can "put it all together" in the 450 class and prove me wrong.

where he came from and who he is married too has zero to do with this...

Disagree with you here. Money affords opportunities.

you want to blame him for the storyline TV created and hate him for it...

They literally just spoke the words that someone wrote out for them and blindly went along with the script, did they? At some point you have to have some belief and ownership in what you're saying or it comes off as non-authentic.

You're confusing being critical as 'hate'. You can be critical and still admire someone's success. It's not an all-or-nothing proposition. Don't hate CC, I congratulated him on his championship. As you've said, and I agree, now one can take away his championship. Don't get so ramped up.
Pennypacker, just give it up bro. In the Vital world it’s either you have to love these guys and agree with everyone in this forum or you are hater who can’t beat Christian. You can never just call a spade a spade.
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since when did he have the “world on his back” that’s a bit mellow dramatic don’t you think? He won that championship and it’s to be congratulated, I am looking forward to seeing what he can do in the 450 class!
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bvm111 wrote:
since when did he have the “world on his back” that’s a bit mellow dramatic don’t you think? He won that championship and it’s to be...
since when did he have the “world on his back” that’s a bit mellow dramatic don’t you think? He won that championship and it’s to be congratulated, I am looking forward to seeing what he can do in the 450 class!
Monkey off his back would’ve been more appropriate.
It’s a shame that the media has put too much emphasis on his struggles, because it’s caused some unneeded hate from people who tend to jump on the bandwagon. I like Christian Craig and am happy that he was able to get this championship. But as others have eluded, I’m a little tired of the story. That’s really not his fault, IMO. But make no mistake, he had some serious hurdles to get over.
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5/8/2022 11:49am
So can we deduct that every person who says that Christian is too old to ride in this class, is happy to accept that the 250 class is a ‘feeder’ or somewhat ‘amateur’ or ‘not proper’ class??

*Not my opinion I might add..

I’d like to see 250s raced by anyone who wants to race them, no matter their age/pedigree.
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DonM wrote:
Nailed it....
wb173 wrote:
Easy to be a follower...
DonM wrote:
You just can't help yourself....
Your post represent a follower...
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The guy never took a dive, he finally put it together, that’s all. Would you prefer him to continue to get 3-5? Or win eventually then...
The guy never took a dive, he finally put it together, that’s all.

Would you prefer him to continue to get 3-5? Or win eventually then move out of the class like he is doing?

Damn Jmart is fucked if he wins next year on club mx, tough crowd.
[i]The guy never took a dive, he finally put it together, that’s all. [/i] Easy there. I'm not sure CC is know for "putting it together"...
The guy never took a dive, he finally put it together, that’s all.

Easy there. I'm not sure CC is know for "putting it together". This is a guy that had to have a light installed on his bar because he couldn't remember to breathe.

The work and the effort he (and Star) put in to winning the title is noted.

The hyperbole of all the stories of struggle and adversity is and has been a bit much. A get that he had a pretty major injury, but to extrapolate this to everything gets tiring. They're not exactly living on food stamps.....Christian married into money and a ride on his father-in-laws team which allowed him to springboard into some pretty good opportunities on first-rate equipment. His retirement was cut short when he found out that working a 9-5 day job sucks.

Congrats to him and his entire team. All said, he won a title, which is special. Now it's time to run with the big dogs.

DonM wrote:
So what's your point? The guy said "he finally put it together" This year he did put it together...it took him some time but he did...where...
So what's your point? The guy said "he finally put it together" This year he did put it together...it took him some time but he did...where he came from and who he is married too has zero to do with this...you want to blame him for the storyline TV created and hate him for it...that's fine but he's still the champion....can't take that away...
Thank you. I believe you. 7th at best overall outdoors.
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Vital MX

The 23 year old rule in mxgp sucks

Also vital

Christian craig is too old to race a 250
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Vital MX

The 23 year old rule in mxgp sucks

Also vital

Christian craig is too old to race a 250
I like the 23 rule. It brought all the best talent to mx1 for a while
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5/8/2022 3:18pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 3:24pm
bvm111 wrote:
since when did he have the “world on his back” that’s a bit mellow dramatic don’t you think? He won that championship and it’s to be...
since when did he have the “world on his back” that’s a bit mellow dramatic don’t you think? He won that championship and it’s to be congratulated, I am looking forward to seeing what he can do in the 450 class!
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Monkey off his back would’ve been more appropriate. It’s a shame that the media has put too much emphasis on his struggles, because it’s caused some...
Monkey off his back would’ve been more appropriate.
It’s a shame that the media has put too much emphasis on his struggles, because it’s caused some unneeded hate from people who tend to jump on the bandwagon. I like Christian Craig and am happy that he was able to get this championship. But as others have eluded, I’m a little tired of the story. That’s really not his fault, IMO. But make no mistake, he had some serious hurdles to get over.
To be fair Christian has brought up his comebacks, retirement, injuries and such many time on the podium and press conferences. He definitely doesn't shy away from those subjects at all and likes to bring them up himself. I don't think the media should take the blame for all this hype. He seems to thrive off of it. He has a massive chip on his
shoulder and seems to always need to prove something.



They did hype up the whole Christian Jett thing though. I don't think he wanted anything to do with all that nonsense.
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Dude has been so fast for so long... and has pushed through so many injuries.... so awesome to see him with a hard earned #1 plate...
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5/8/2022 3:32pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 3:34pm
A regional champion after an eternity as a pro with weak comp, congrats. Can't wait for the stoopid feel good family rhetoric about how hard they've had it and it was "deserved" next season.
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5/8/2022 3:38pm
AJ565 wrote:
John Dowd was 32 when he won the 125W class in 1998 and everyone was stoked back then. Second place was David Vuillenmin at 21, third...
John Dowd was 32 when he won the 125W class in 1998 and everyone was stoked back then. Second place was David Vuillenmin at 21, third Roncada at 19, fourth Ramsey at 24,
Dowd started racing pro when he was 22, That was a totally different set of circumstances.
Right but didn’t Dowd win races in the 250(now 450) class before he won his championship?
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5/8/2022 3:41pm
AJ565 wrote:
John Dowd was 32 when he won the 125W class in 1998 and everyone was stoked back then. Second place was David Vuillenmin at 21, third...
John Dowd was 32 when he won the 125W class in 1998 and everyone was stoked back then. Second place was David Vuillenmin at 21, third Roncada at 19, fourth Ramsey at 24,
Dowd started racing pro when he was 22, That was a totally different set of circumstances.
thewrizzle wrote:
Right but didn’t Dowd win races in the 250(now 450) class before he won his championship?
On top of that how many years was Dowd a pro before his title?
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Y'know. I don't hear any mention of his father, Mike Craig, in all the interviews.
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5/8/2022 4:33pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 6:35pm
ShipLap wrote:
Y'know. I don't hear any mention of his father, Mike Craig, in all the interviews.
You won’t. I don’t hear much about his mother either..
That’s a BIG part of what he’s been dealing with, I can’t imagine not having a good relationship with my parents.
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5/8/2022 5:06pm
ShipLap wrote:
Y'know. I don't hear any mention of his father, Mike Craig, in all the interviews.
Langhammx wrote:
You won’t. I don’t hear much about his mother either.. That’s a BIG part of what he’s been dealing with, I can’t imagine not having a...
You won’t. I don’t hear much about his mother either..
That’s a BIG part of what he’s been dealing with, I can’t imagine not having a good relationship with my parents.
I didn’t know his mom was part of that as well.
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5/8/2022 5:11pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 5:12pm
Congrats to Craig but I still think the 250 class for his experience in racing is like picking low hanging fruit. Not trying to offend anyone, it would be like Marvin dropping down to the 250 class for outdoors this year. It is just my personal opinion.

I truly wonder how CC feels inside, he should have challenged himself and stayed in the 450 class.
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Myke wrote:
Congrats to Craig but I still think the 250 class for his experience in racing is like picking low hanging fruit. Not trying to offend anyone...
Congrats to Craig but I still think the 250 class for his experience in racing is like picking low hanging fruit. Not trying to offend anyone, it would be like Marvin dropping down to the 250 class for outdoors this year. It is just my personal opinion.

I truly wonder how CC feels inside, he should have challenged himself and stayed in the 450 class.
What 450 ride was he offered?
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Myke wrote:
Congrats to Craig but I still think the 250 class for his experience in racing is like picking low hanging fruit. Not trying to offend anyone...
Congrats to Craig but I still think the 250 class for his experience in racing is like picking low hanging fruit. Not trying to offend anyone, it would be like Marvin dropping down to the 250 class for outdoors this year. It is just my personal opinion.

I truly wonder how CC feels inside, he should have challenged himself and stayed in the 450 class.
mxb2 wrote:
What 450 ride was he offered?
Good point! I do not know if he was offered a ride.....
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5/8/2022 5:34pm
After seeing his reaction after winning the championship he must be relieved.
Yep, just like any sport, it’s tough to close it out when the pressure’s on.
5/8/2022 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 5:37pm
Myke wrote:
Good point! I do not know if he was offered a ride.....
If it wasn't factory, or factory-supported, no way he would take a 450 ride over the Star ride.

With as much "comeback kid" the media AND the Craig's are pushing, you'd think he'd be willing to sacrifice some things to make it in the 450's.

Seems to me he wants the cushy Star ride and all it comes with, or else I have no doubt he could have found a 450 ride. If not, maybe there is still something else behind the scenes keeping him from that.

I've mentioned it before, but other than his deal with Rockstar Husky next year, he hasn't been on a TOP level team without some sort of backdoor connection.

Christian and Paige seem like decent people, but undoubtedly part of the problem most people have with this whole thing is how vocal they are about how hard it's been.

People keep bringing up Friese (who up until this year had been 450) and others who are the same age, but the one thing obviously lacking in those comparisons is they aren't on YouTube and social media EVERY SINGLE WEEK making sure everyone knows just how difficult it is to be a highly paid professional athlete.

All that being said, obviously I'm not a Craig fan, but I can still appreciate what it meant to him and Paige when you see the reaction last night.
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Myke wrote:
Congrats to Craig but I still think the 250 class for his experience in racing is like picking low hanging fruit. Not trying to offend anyone...
Congrats to Craig but I still think the 250 class for his experience in racing is like picking low hanging fruit. Not trying to offend anyone, it would be like Marvin dropping down to the 250 class for outdoors this year. It is just my personal opinion.

I truly wonder how CC feels inside, he should have challenged himself and stayed in the 450 class.
mxb2 wrote:
What 450 ride was he offered?
Myke wrote:
Good point! I do not know if he was offered a ride.....
He wasnt, thats why he raced the paying job bike.
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5/8/2022 5:50pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 6:02pm
ShipLap wrote:
Y'know. I don't hear any mention of his father, Mike Craig, in all the interviews.
Langhammx wrote:
You won’t. I don’t hear much about his mother either.. That’s a BIG part of what he’s been dealing with, I can’t imagine not having a...
You won’t. I don’t hear much about his mother either..
That’s a BIG part of what he’s been dealing with, I can’t imagine not having a good relationship with my parents.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I didn’t know his mom was part of that as well.
She’s not.

Seeing the success of both Christian and Jeremy is one of the coolest stories of the sport right now. There was no gold road paved before them.
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5/8/2022 6:30pm
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I didn’t know his mom was part of that as well.
My point was he doesn’t mention his mom. I don’t know Christian nor am I pretending to know what his relationship is with his mom. But, I’ve never seen him post a picture with his mom in it or mention her in interviews. That has to weigh heavy on him, IMO.

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The tides have turned on this web page. It’s going down the tubes….
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The only thing I can think about in all of this is how unfortunate it is that Christian Craig can do this at 30 years old and how many other guys who haven't accomplished half of what he has pointed out. What's going on here.
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Langhammx wrote:
You won’t. I don’t hear much about his mother either.. That’s a BIG part of what he’s been dealing with, I can’t imagine not having a...
You won’t. I don’t hear much about his mother either..
That’s a BIG part of what he’s been dealing with, I can’t imagine not having a good relationship with my parents.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I didn’t know his mom was part of that as well.
Regis wrote:
She’s not. Seeing the success of both Christian and Jeremy is one of the coolest stories of the sport right now. There was no gold road...
She’s not.

Seeing the success of both Christian and Jeremy is one of the coolest stories of the sport right now. There was no gold road paved before them.
Maybe not a Gold paved road but pretty good, His dad was instrumental to his early years of riding, Jeff Ward used to help him as an amateur as well. Then after his broken back gets an opportunity to ride the nationals on his father in laws team, yes he proved he still had it and deserved a spot the following year. But to say it wasn't handed to him is a far stretch. And yes Paige's whining like they came back for nothing is a slap in the face of every privateer that has worked their buts off with no support. Good for Christian tho and I hope he can see it to make amends with his dad. Those of us whose fathers passed at a young age would gladly give anything for a day with them their problems and all.
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
I didn’t know his mom was part of that as well.
Regis wrote:
She’s not. Seeing the success of both Christian and Jeremy is one of the coolest stories of the sport right now. There was no gold road...
She’s not.

Seeing the success of both Christian and Jeremy is one of the coolest stories of the sport right now. There was no gold road paved before them.
ARM670 wrote:
Maybe not a Gold paved road but pretty good, His dad was instrumental to his early years of riding, Jeff Ward used to help him as...
Maybe not a Gold paved road but pretty good, His dad was instrumental to his early years of riding, Jeff Ward used to help him as an amateur as well. Then after his broken back gets an opportunity to ride the nationals on his father in laws team, yes he proved he still had it and deserved a spot the following year. But to say it wasn't handed to him is a far stretch. And yes Paige's whining like they came back for nothing is a slap in the face of every privateer that has worked their buts off with no support. Good for Christian tho and I hope he can see it to make amends with his dad. Those of us whose fathers passed at a young age would gladly give anything for a day with them their problems and all.
He was actually on Troy Lees team when it was on private Hondas after he came back from his back injury and to be fair he wasn't dating Paige when he was on Geico the first time....
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5/9/2022 10:55am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2022 5:47pm
ARM670 wrote:
Maybe not a Gold paved road but pretty good, His dad was instrumental to his early years of riding, Jeff Ward used to help him as...
Maybe not a Gold paved road but pretty good, His dad was instrumental to his early years of riding, Jeff Ward used to help him as an amateur as well. Then after his broken back gets an opportunity to ride the nationals on his father in laws team, yes he proved he still had it and deserved a spot the following year. But to say it wasn't handed to him is a far stretch. And yes Paige's whining like they came back for nothing is a slap in the face of every privateer that has worked their buts off with no support. Good for Christian tho and I hope he can see it to make amends with his dad. Those of us whose fathers passed at a young age would gladly give anything for a day with them their problems and all.
Nice to see another guy who has a middle ground view on this whole thing. It sucks because if you say ANYTHING negative about the Craig's you are thrown in the hater group. That's just not how life goes.

I'm with you man, you can respect his title and what it clearly means to them, and still be turned off because of how it's all communicated.

I do respect the opinions of Langham and Regis, knowing they are good dudes with some perspective on part of the picture not all of us know about.

I guess what most of us would prefer is if Christian just put his head down and did it without all the attitude and entitlement undertones.
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