Couple things I learned at Detroit

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3/14/2022 8:41am
mx317 wrote:
I was getting pizza a couple of weeks ago and had a $50 bill to pay with. They told me they take nothing larger than a...
I was getting pizza a couple of weeks ago and had a $50 bill to pay with. They told me they take nothing larger than a $20 bill. For some reason I didn't have my CC card with me and had to tell them it's the only way I have to pay and if you can't take it I will just have to leave the pizzas here. They suddenly found change and took the $50.
I suspect that the real purpose of the "assistant manager" at most food joints is to keep the amount of cash in the registers below a certain level. Reduces the temptation for the employees and makes crooks weigh the risk. But, I do know it's common practice.
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3/14/2022 9:23am
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Ive been to Detroit many times for Supercross but a few things have changed. I carry a flashlight everyday. Been to many concerts and Sx's with...
Ive been to Detroit many times for Supercross but a few things have changed. I carry a flashlight everyday. Been to many concerts and Sx's with it and never had a problem. They stopped me at the metal detectors and told me I couldnt take my flashlight in even if I took the battery out. So I walked in the cold back to our car and dropped it off. The real funny thing is that during opening ceremony they called for the crowd to all point their flashlights at the track. I told my wife I hope that guy that stopped me feels stupid right now! Haha
Another thing is that they dont take cash for anything anymore. It started with the parking garage (which was $50 OUCH!!!) and I had to pay with a card, then once inside Ford Field I went to get a beer, a few pops, and some popcorn and all they take is cards. Then they want you to leave a tip for your server on the card. I always tip in the past and just give them a dollar or 2 but this was different. It didnt ask for a dollar amount either it was percent options like 10%, 15% or 20%. We also stopped at the T shirt counter on our way out. I figured it was just a Ford Field thing and these T shirt guys will take cash for sure. Wrong again, cards only. I carried a pocket full of cash for us at the races and didnt spend a dime of it. Seems like times are a changin and we'll have cashless society before you know it. Gotta track where you've been, and what you spend your money on I guess. We had a great time at the races though. We had 13 seats in a row up on the second tier front row with mine and 2 other familys. 6 adults and 7 kids. All of the kids had a least one buddy to talk to and us adults got to hang out again. We dont see these guys as much as we used to because of job changes and such. There was some great and exciting racing and everyone had a ton of fun. See you next year Detroit but Ill leave my flashlight and cash at home.
Park in the Greektown Casino parking garage next time. It's free and only a 10 minute walk from Ford Field.
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isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is...
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is free" as they are refusing your legal payment for it. they cannot FORCE a cc transaction. That's why it's printed on money: Valid legal tender for all Debts.

EDIT - appears I'm wrong:

https://www.expertlaw.com/library/consumer-protection/it-legal-refuse-c…



Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.
3/14/2022 9:45am
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is...
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is free" as they are refusing your legal payment for it. they cannot FORCE a cc transaction. That's why it's printed on money: Valid legal tender for all Debts.

EDIT - appears I'm wrong:

https://www.expertlaw.com/library/consumer-protection/it-legal-refuse-c…
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/14/538108/s1200_legal.jpg[/img] Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.



Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.
I suppose. Scariest part of ALL of it: As you're watching w/ Russia...heaven help us if "someone" decided to just turn OFF our cashless abilities (like they've done to Russia)....cause you are officially screwed at that point.
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3/14/2022 11:26am Edited Date/Time 3/14/2022 11:30am
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is...
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is free" as they are refusing your legal payment for it. they cannot FORCE a cc transaction. That's why it's printed on money: Valid legal tender for all Debts.

EDIT - appears I'm wrong:

https://www.expertlaw.com/library/consumer-protection/it-legal-refuse-c…
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/14/538108/s1200_legal.jpg[/img] Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.



Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.
I didn't say I was wrong, that was another poster. If you read his link it states there is no Federal law, but a state can make its own law. I jumped on google and low and behold "Some states such as Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and New Jersey have statutes that require private businesses to accept cash from customers. There was a list of city's that have laws also. So am I wrong? I never stated Federal law.

And if you did not notice, you quoted two different posters in your quote.
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3/14/2022 11:47am
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is...
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is free" as they are refusing your legal payment for it. they cannot FORCE a cc transaction. That's why it's printed on money: Valid legal tender for all Debts.

EDIT - appears I'm wrong:

https://www.expertlaw.com/library/consumer-protection/it-legal-refuse-c…
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/14/538108/s1200_legal.jpg[/img] Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.



Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.
Bigshow wrote:
I didn't say I was wrong, that was another poster. If you read his link it states there is no Federal law, but a state can...
I didn't say I was wrong, that was another poster. If you read his link it states there is no Federal law, but a state can make its own law. I jumped on google and low and behold "Some states such as Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and New Jersey have statutes that require private businesses to accept cash from customers. There was a list of city's that have laws also. So am I wrong? I never stated Federal law.

And if you did not notice, you quoted two different posters in your quote.
Read both quoted posts, and my post again and see if you can connect the dots
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3/14/2022 12:32pm
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/14/538108/s1200_legal.jpg[/img] Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.



Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.
Bigshow wrote:
I didn't say I was wrong, that was another poster. If you read his link it states there is no Federal law, but a state can...
I didn't say I was wrong, that was another poster. If you read his link it states there is no Federal law, but a state can make its own law. I jumped on google and low and behold "Some states such as Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and New Jersey have statutes that require private businesses to accept cash from customers. There was a list of city's that have laws also. So am I wrong? I never stated Federal law.

And if you did not notice, you quoted two different posters in your quote.
Read both quoted posts, and my post again and see if you can connect the dots
Ok you was being a smart ass. But I was not incorrect, cause atleast 3 states have such laws on the books, if you can understand that.
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3/14/2022 12:55pm
Found that same thing at the sx in Minneapolis, made sure i had cash for a few beers and snacks, and no one there took cash,
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3/14/2022 1:11pm
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is...
isn't cash "legal tender"? Not to derail this thread, but if a place of business refuses cash, they just told you "Ok, then this item is free" as they are refusing your legal payment for it. they cannot FORCE a cc transaction. That's why it's printed on money: Valid legal tender for all Debts.

EDIT - appears I'm wrong:

https://www.expertlaw.com/library/consumer-protection/it-legal-refuse-c…
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/14/538108/s1200_legal.jpg[/img] Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.



Scary to think that you were able to quickly identify that you were incorrect, but apparently an elected official wasn't able to do so.
That's the first thing I thought about when this crap with Russia started. I stuck an emergency stash of cash in the safety deposit box. Now let's hope the banks don't lock the doorsPinch
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3/14/2022 1:49pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2022 1:50pm
Im a heavy tipper, probably excessively but its either because my parents survived off tips and we were the poorest of all dade county poor people and now been very blessed and share or its the fact that I think i enjoy the special treatment at the places i visit regularly. They remember and its a win for everyone.
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captmoto wrote:
I tried to use a hundred dollar bill at a coffee shop, fast food place and CVS and was told they didn't have change. A burger...
I tried to use a hundred dollar bill at a coffee shop, fast food place and CVS and was told they didn't have change. A burger place at lunchtime can't break a hundred? CVS? What bullshit.
mx317 wrote:
I was getting pizza a couple of weeks ago and had a $50 bill to pay with. They told me they take nothing larger than a...
I was getting pizza a couple of weeks ago and had a $50 bill to pay with. They told me they take nothing larger than a $20 bill. For some reason I didn't have my CC card with me and had to tell them it's the only way I have to pay and if you can't take it I will just have to leave the pizzas here. They suddenly found change and took the $50.
A few reasons why restaurants don’t take larger bills or give change for large bills…
1). They keep a limited amount of cash in the tills so the temptation to steal is less, most restaurants start the day with $150 that builds throughout the day and at the end of the shift is counted back down to $150 with the balance being deposited, they typically do this twice a day for each shift.
2). Close to 90% of transactions being completed are CC transactions so they are not building on that cash. If they give you change for the large bill they have to go to the bank to get change for smaller bills.
3). The majority of counterfeit bills are larger bills so if they don’t accept them they don’t get passed.
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3/14/2022 3:15pm
FLmxer wrote:
Im a heavy tipper, probably excessively but its either because my parents survived off tips and we were the poorest of all dade county poor people...
Im a heavy tipper, probably excessively but its either because my parents survived off tips and we were the poorest of all dade county poor people and now been very blessed and share or its the fact that I think i enjoy the special treatment at the places i visit regularly. They remember and its a win for everyone.
I was a single dad with three kids for many years and have been a hermit for even longer so I've cooked a lot of meals and done a lot of dishes. I like to go out for a good sit down meal and have someone take care of me and I like to show my appreciation by tipping well and thanking them for being there for me.
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3/14/2022 6:40pm
DonM wrote:
A few reasons why restaurants don’t take larger bills or give change for large bills… 1). They keep a limited amount of cash in the tills...
A few reasons why restaurants don’t take larger bills or give change for large bills…
1). They keep a limited amount of cash in the tills so the temptation to steal is less, most restaurants start the day with $150 that builds throughout the day and at the end of the shift is counted back down to $150 with the balance being deposited, they typically do this twice a day for each shift.
2). Close to 90% of transactions being completed are CC transactions so they are not building on that cash. If they give you change for the large bill they have to go to the bank to get change for smaller bills.
3). The majority of counterfeit bills are larger bills so if they don’t accept them they don’t get passed.
None of those reasons really make any sense in my case. I was buying almost $40 worth of pizza so it shouldn’t have been as issue.
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DonM wrote:
A few reasons why restaurants don’t take larger bills or give change for large bills… 1). They keep a limited amount of cash in the tills...
A few reasons why restaurants don’t take larger bills or give change for large bills…
1). They keep a limited amount of cash in the tills so the temptation to steal is less, most restaurants start the day with $150 that builds throughout the day and at the end of the shift is counted back down to $150 with the balance being deposited, they typically do this twice a day for each shift.
2). Close to 90% of transactions being completed are CC transactions so they are not building on that cash. If they give you change for the large bill they have to go to the bank to get change for smaller bills.
3). The majority of counterfeit bills are larger bills so if they don’t accept them they don’t get passed.
mx317 wrote:
None of those reasons really make any sense in my case. I was buying almost $40 worth of pizza so it shouldn’t have been as issue.
Actually all three do…they have a policy not to take large bills a $50 puts a large bill in their cash that they don’t normally have in their cash drawer…see number 2 and the majority of all counterfeit bills are $50 or $100 bills…you can thank all the asshats that try to pass fake bills for that…I was a regional VP for a large restaurant chain and I had over 200 restaurants under me with these simple policies in place we cut our cash issues in the restaurants by 80%….now don’t get me started on gift card fraud….
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captmoto wrote:
With gas prices now I would need to carry too much cash. I don't mind a debit card for transactions over $15 but using a debit...
With gas prices now I would need to carry too much cash. I don't mind a debit card for transactions over $15 but using a debit card for a $6.00 transaction pisses me off.
Im the opposite because if I carry cash I spend all my cash, so its nice to use a debit card because then only only spend the amount of my purchase at the time. If I get $20 out of the ATM for a $6 purchase then I also spend the other $14 on something I wasn't planning on buying.
3/14/2022 7:28pm
FLmxer wrote:
Im a heavy tipper, probably excessively but its either because my parents survived off tips and we were the poorest of all dade county poor people...
Im a heavy tipper, probably excessively but its either because my parents survived off tips and we were the poorest of all dade county poor people and now been very blessed and share or its the fact that I think i enjoy the special treatment at the places i visit regularly. They remember and its a win for everyone.
NvHermit wrote:
I was a single dad with three kids for many years and have been a hermit for even longer so I've cooked a lot of meals...
I was a single dad with three kids for many years and have been a hermit for even longer so I've cooked a lot of meals and done a lot of dishes. I like to go out for a good sit down meal and have someone take care of me and I like to show my appreciation by tipping well and thanking them for being there for me.
I remember when I was younger and had very little money and in the motorcycle service industry I would get some tips every now and then and they would make huge difference and I could buy something better for a meal other than mac and cheese or noodles so now I tip what would be considered excessive by tipping standards but to the person I tip I like to think it will make a difference for the better to them.
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I always park at MGM for free and walk to all the downtown events.. Parking lot is shared with DTE and never had an issue with minors.

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