How you get passed losing someone

Edited Date/Time 3/3/2022 5:30pm
Many times people post here that they have lost someone important to them.
Since Covid, I've lost my Dad and a few short months after, my wife lost both her parents
in 2 weeks. Losing my Dad was very hard. We didn't get to spend as much time together
as I would have liked. I took him to his dialysis sessions twice a week until my doc told me
I can't do that anymore. Probably engineering wise the smartest person I've ever known.
Anyway, when he passed, one thing that really helped me was making his urn. I spent a lot of
hours making it and really thought a lot about my time with him over the years while I made it.
Fortunately I had help with the design from my wife. The design, the materials, the engravings,
all have a relevance to parts of his life.
What did you guys do to help you get passed losing someone?
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You have to learn to love the person in a different way. That’s what someone told me and it really resonated with me. They may not be here, but you still love them. It will just be in a different way now.

And you never move on. You move forward.

I took a class called “Grief Share” which is like the standard in grief counseling. It’s offered at thousands of places around the country. It really did help just understand and process the loss.

It doesn’t make it any easier…
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If I’m being honest, I never did find a way to get over losing a loved one

The closest I’ve come is just pretending they never existed because I never got to see them one last time.

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2/22/2022 9:18pm
ToolMaker,

First of let me say that urn is amazing. You should be very proud of that, and I'm sure your Dad would be.

It's hard to lose a loved one. I was raised in a Christian home, and it helps, knowing that you will see them again. Still, you have to mourn. I know it's cliche, but you have to remember the good times. Allow yourself to laugh at the funny stuff without guilt.

I lost my Mom in 2010, and Dad in 2012. I still think about them everyday. I'll see somethiing interesting and think "I have to tell Dad about that".

Like Txdirt said, you never really move on. But life goes on, and you get used to living with just their memories.

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2/22/2022 11:31pm Edited Date/Time 2/23/2022 1:48am
I don't think you ever truly do, the feelings just gets less frequent. I lost my Mom when I was 21 and to this day if I hear a Bob Dylan song I tear up. I just remember the good times and help out the charities you used to volunteer too. I'm sorry for your losses.
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The Shop

2/23/2022 12:16am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 6:05pm
You never will. It will be 2 years in May since my brother has been gone, and 11 years in July since my dad has been gone too. They are always in my mind, everyday. I think about them and others that have departed us; sometimes I laugh, sometimes I'm angry, and sometimes I cry. Just keep them in your thoughts.

*Sorry for your loss and that is beautiful.

*Long story but, my profile picture is a drawing I did on the Wacom my brother bought me in 2012. I drew it as a thank you the day I got it (the 95 in Belgian flag colours was my previous profile pic) and am still using it to this day.



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2/23/2022 2:57am
Sorry for your losses, ToolMaker.

Remembering the good times is important but is also can be a bit of a double-edged sword during your down times. And the below image helped me to try and at least give me a bit of perspective after losing my Dad.

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2/23/2022 4:15am Edited Date/Time 2/23/2022 5:05am
Very sorry for your families loss. When I lost my dad it took time. For the first year or two I couldn’t even talk about it. You never get over it, but you learn how to be at peace with it. I was still racing at the time my dad was sick and after he passed away. Those days at the track were priceless. It was the only moments it wasn’t on my mind. Hang in there. Best wishes
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3 weeks after losing my brother and it’s still very hard. Bastid cancer took him at 58, way too soon.
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In my family, it seems that overtime, every member that has past is remembered with lots of stories and laughter.
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2/23/2022 7:16am Edited Date/Time 2/23/2022 10:01am
It's been 10 years since I lost my Mom to cancer. We (my Dad, sister, and I) brought her home for the final 4 days, because my Dad was adamant about her not dying anywhere else. The same room I grew up in as a little kid starting at 6 years old, the same room I'd stay when visiting, and the same room I slept in after she passed away up until my Dad sold the house 2 years later.

And credit to my Dad for moving on(but never forgetting). He's still seeing the same woman he met 7 years ago (3 years after my Mom died). At the same time I was happy for him, I looked in the mirror and still missed my Mom dearly. And I don't mean to imply my Dad didn't miss my Mom, he still sends a birthday text to my sister and I on my Mom's birthday or lets us know he visited my Mom's grave-sight (more frequently than I ever thought he would). In a nutshell, pretty amazing Man.

Every family event, I'd look at my kids (my Mom's grand-kids) and my initial thoughts (for years) was always negative / somber "she would have so appreciated this moment" or "why God why?"...Out of the 4 grandparents (My parents and my 2-inlaws) she was easily the most warm / down to earth / good with the kids grandparent. And that's just not me saying that, my Wife said it too.

I've had / have reminders of my Mom everyday. My two daughters case in point. Mannerisms(physical, spoken-unspoken) / appearance, etc. that did not come from my Dad or my Wife's parents. Of course, our daughters have wonderful features from their other grandparents too.

But, up until recently, it was always a reminder of my Mom being gone and the remembrance of her last breath. But, in the past year, I've been leaning heavier on my faith as I got a little complacent (almost resentful) in the last 10 years. And about 2 months ago, I had a vivid dream of my Mom, with her soothing voice and unmistakable laugh. I could not make the words out, but it was obvious she was happy (almost joyous) and I'd like to think proud of what my Wife (of almost 24 years) and I have endured and accomplished.

I haven't had a negative thought since. I see something or someone (our daughters, etc.) that reminds me of my Mom and I hear that soothing voice and laugh. Almost her saying to me, "I'm good, enjoy the moment".

For me it’s, “you're good, enjoy the moment".
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2/23/2022 7:36am
First off TM-- that Urn is probably the nicest one I have ever seen. Your Dad ,with his engineering background, is probably smiling ear to ear and poking his buddies in the ribs saying "take a look at that boys !!" Fantastic workmanship and a REALLY great way to honor him.

I lost my Dad in 1998 , he was 69 -- way too young . We played golf about twice a week for the 3 years prior to his passing. We always had a hoot on the course. Serious playing, but always a lot of laughing.

Now every time I pick up a club, play at our home course or hear someone recite one of his famous "one liners" it brings a smile to my face with just a touch of melancholy . Or if I hit a really good approach shot or drive a green, I'll look up at him at smirk and wink.

Everyone has a different way of handling the loss and grief, but TXdirt put it well, you don't move on by forgetting the past, you move forward with the great memories.
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2/23/2022 7:50am
lost my dad when i was in my early 20s to brain cancer, he was my larger than life hero and watching him shrink to what he was when he died destroyed me. What helped me after was that i would think of the time i had with him that some people are not lucky enough to have. My cousin for example never really had a dad, he knew who he was but he was never part of his life growing up. I try to think about how lucky/blessed i was to even have my father to show me how to be a man until my 20s. also the more i talked about him to people and try to remember the skills/work ethic he taught me helps and i hope he lives on if i ever have kids and teach them what he instilled in me.

sorry for the loss toolman
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2/23/2022 8:30am
Thanks for all the replies. I think I should have been a bit more clear in starting the thread. What I had intended was maybe us helping each other sharing things that we did that helped us during the worst part. I still have moments that for some reason I don't know, that just happen, and an immense sadness overcomes me. For the most part I'm now at the stage where I can think about the good times, the times in my life where he guided me in the right direction even when I didn't know he was doing it. The last half a year he really wanted to pass because he was in so much pain, so while I was relieved for him I was sad for me. He was on O2 most of the day unless he was by the coast where he felt he could breath. So either myself or another member of the family took him for a drive down the coast every day. This picture was shortly before he passed. We later stopped at Raul's for fish tacos and a beer when he said "this has been the best day I can ever remember."
Again thanks to all,
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2/23/2022 8:18pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 4:53am
Sorry for your the loss of your Dad TM and Beautiful Urn--your Dad would be proud.

I don't have a good answer as I've gone through a lot in less then three years and each one has been different....

My best friend died from colon cancer and what helped me was restoring his awesome Dualsport CR500 as there were many times I had wished he was there as he was a Master Technician.

My Mom spent seven long years in a Memory home in Pasadena and each time I saw her she was worse with her Dementia.
I really did not like going there as it was VERY SAD and depressing for me to see her like that. A few months after Covid hit she passed by herself with a careworker at her side. No family was allowed to be there and that It was a real bummer but in a way I was almost relieved as she did not have to live like that anymore.

My Dad did not want to end up in a home like my Mom and I was fortunate to find three different caring people that would live at His beautiful home that he loved during that time. He wanted to die in his home and his wish was fulfilled about nine months ago.
Unfortunately with Covid like my Mom there has been no service or Celebration of Life with Family

I use to love going to visit him about three times a year and cook him meals and remenance all the good times of living there.

The house recently sold and really going to miss visiting him. Sad
I also miss calling him on the phone especially after times like the Superbowl as he took us to LA Ram games when I was 7.
Calling him on the way home after a ride in the desert is something also I miss....

But what REALLY scares me is my sweet Jan who is battling cancer for the last two years and the future has me stressed and worried. She had ANOTHER chemo treatment today (10 of 14) second time around.... Sad

I really don't know how I am going to get through it as I'm not good alone and like companionship and sharing Life with someone I Love.....
I proposed to her on Valentines Day and that has made her Happy.

Sorry for what you are going through TM, everyone handles it differently I suppose, wish I had a good answer.
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I would like to add coming on here and sharing my story with like minded people who share my lifetime obsession of motorcycles has helped me through difficult times of losing someone.

I've never gone out to seek professional advise ( probably should have) but have a feeling in the future if Jan doesn't pull through I will need to and like TXdirt's advise.
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I only hv a sec. I was born knowing how lucky I was to b alive. I heard it a lot my 1st cousin died b4 he was 2, we where close in dob. I think it’s extremely bad to hang on to people that passed. My Mom does this her brother died then I was born. I always heard he was so this and that. And such a great athlete he ran from the farm to hs to train for track. I just got into the blocks kick my legs and drop a 10 flat. She went to 1 of my bb games in 6 yrs. everyone in the gym was on there feet and screaming, she never stood up or clapped. A lot of jealousy she never took off work for parents night, I walk into the gym with no parent . Yrs later her Mom and dad passed in 01 . That’s when it really got bad. Her house is a shrine to them, there stuff is stacked up in every room. No one is allowed in the house since then, no gatherings for holidays even. Then her other brother died once again she kept all his stuff, they didn’t get along and didn’t speak. I talked with him about everything and miss him a lot. Along with my Grandparents , I kinda took care of my Grandpa we became best friends. He was killed in a car accident, I got the blame for that. I was with him when they pulled the plug. One thing I said was good bye my best friend , 3 alagator tears rolled down his face. I raced to his place to get him ready for my Grandma’s funeral church service and burial. He was week from not eating he wanted to die the same day as his wife that was dying at home from cancer. I busted him on that in front of everybody that he wasn’t eating and that you will eat. It’s tough but I told him what was Grandmas favorite suit and outfit. I had to drag him out of the tub and help him get ready. That was a tough 1 to get over. My 1st fiancé was killed in a accident, she was mangled I was not allowed to see her when I was 19. The death out of the blue is the worst. I take it hard for 2 weeks then I move on. Reguardless of the person or strong Love. To let there death sink in hang onto there finger for a few minutes when there in there casket. That person is long gone. I,ve helped shovel dirt onto there casket it lets it sink in there going under ground. To waste your life thinking I never spent time with them like I wanted too or I never told them what they meant to me. Well you should’ve at least told them what they meant to you, but you didn’t. Difficult thing to do I know, you don’t hv to b perfect with the wording just get it out, They will understand. Too late now just move on or waste your life living in the past.
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I only hv a sec. I was born knowing how lucky I was to b alive. I heard it a lot my 1st cousin died b4...
I only hv a sec. I was born knowing how lucky I was to b alive. I heard it a lot my 1st cousin died b4 he was 2, we where close in dob. I think it’s extremely bad to hang on to people that passed. My Mom does this her brother died then I was born. I always heard he was so this and that. And such a great athlete he ran from the farm to hs to train for track. I just got into the blocks kick my legs and drop a 10 flat. She went to 1 of my bb games in 6 yrs. everyone in the gym was on there feet and screaming, she never stood up or clapped. A lot of jealousy she never took off work for parents night, I walk into the gym with no parent . Yrs later her Mom and dad passed in 01 . That’s when it really got bad. Her house is a shrine to them, there stuff is stacked up in every room. No one is allowed in the house since then, no gatherings for holidays even. Then her other brother died once again she kept all his stuff, they didn’t get along and didn’t speak. I talked with him about everything and miss him a lot. Along with my Grandparents , I kinda took care of my Grandpa we became best friends. He was killed in a car accident, I got the blame for that. I was with him when they pulled the plug. One thing I said was good bye my best friend , 3 alagator tears rolled down his face. I raced to his place to get him ready for my Grandma’s funeral church service and burial. He was week from not eating he wanted to die the same day as his wife that was dying at home from cancer. I busted him on that in front of everybody that he wasn’t eating and that you will eat. It’s tough but I told him what was Grandmas favorite suit and outfit. I had to drag him out of the tub and help him get ready. That was a tough 1 to get over. My 1st fiancé was killed in a accident, she was mangled I was not allowed to see her when I was 19. The death out of the blue is the worst. I take it hard for 2 weeks then I move on. Reguardless of the person or strong Love. To let there death sink in hang onto there finger for a few minutes when there in there casket. That person is long gone. I,ve helped shovel dirt onto there casket it lets it sink in there going under ground. To waste your life thinking I never spent time with them like I wanted too or I never told them what they meant to me. Well you should’ve at least told them what they meant to you, but you didn’t. Difficult thing to do I know, you don’t hv to b perfect with the wording just get it out, They will understand. Too late now just move on or waste your life living in the past.
I understand where you are coming from bro. . . .

Some folks don't understand how tough some upbringings were. . .
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How do u get over it? Every person is different... some it may take 2 weeks... others 2 yrs... and yet others, never get over it...

Be strong... accept a new, different life.... and just don't be one of those that never gets over it.... the one thing your love ones would want to see from you- is happiness... not decades of depression and despair....

One last note... if all else fails when trying to feel better, just know that time typically does heal all... given enough time, you will feel better....
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3/2/2022 1:53pm Edited Date/Time 3/2/2022 2:04pm
Saw this topic during my time out, so I had a couple days to think about it.

I’m working on it.

As some of you may know, I lost my Father to *it (I can’t use the name here). This was in Miami during the first big wave, before the vaccine was available.
My Father, while healthy with a strong heart/lungs, has been suffering from some dementia. Nothing diagnosed, but you know.

My step mom (SM) has needed knee replacement and it was scheduled on and off due to *it. All of this created stress on both, resulting in my Dad not eating right and losing some weight. Concerned, she took him to hospital and they really found nothing wrong. He was a little thin and underweight, so they offer some rehab to put weight back on and improve his diet. He’s reluctant, but goes. While in there, they go on lock down. All hospital, nursing and rehabs locked down.
A week in, SM gets on surgery schedule for knee, with open and closing hospitals, she had to go for it.

Couple weeks later, Dad gets out. Put weight back on, looks good and doctors release him. I go to take care of him down in Miami while SM is in rehab for her knee. Spent about 5 days with him, being as careful as I could to avoid *it. He never left his condominium. I always wore a mask when I went out.

Early one day he started acting really strange, just a wild restlessness of up and down from his bed or favorite chair. This started at 6am and went on non-stop, literally non-stop, like chasing a child, until 10pm when, after conferring with SM and my wife, I call EMT’s. He was just not right.

The EMT’s do all the usual stuff they can and say he’s in great health, just disoriented. I convince them that this is wrong and odd. They were reluctant to transport, but did.

This was the last time I ever saw my Father in the flesh.

He was admitted and find out the next day it was a severe UTI/urinary tract infection and apparently this can be an issue in older people, it really makes them super disoriented and crazy.

A week after being in the hospital to clear up the UTI, he was diagnosed with *it

No idea when or where he actually got *it.
From me? Was I careless? The EMT’s? The Hospital?

He went from in good health, ready to come home, to dead in less than 48 hours of diagnosis from *it, and that isn’t an exaggeration. He went down like a rock.

I can’t help but feel that while it may not be my fault, it WAS on my watch. I called the EMT’s. I sent him to hospital. I made the call.

I feel tremendous guilt and failure, and I know all the talk, I know all the psycho babble. Doesn’t change it.

At the end, the nursing staff was kind enough to FaceTime him with SM and I, and his eyes were this blank empty void. His heart may have been working, but his soul had left.

Practically watching him die on the iPhone was terrible enough, followed by a sit that seemed to take forever, but was really about a half an hour until the phone rang, and I knew.

Next day I had to make all the arrangements, then go to the hospital to pick up his property., but not his body. You see, because of *it, we couldn’t claim his body. No funeral. Straight to funeral home cooler until able to cremate. He was flat out confiscated. I got the rest of my “Dad” back in a plastic bag… His shoes, clothes, glasses, dentures and wedding band

That’s it, that’s all I got of my Dad as I stood at the door to the crowded ER.

For fear of contamination, I threw all the cloth stuff out right away in the parking lot trash, bagged the others and returned it back to SM (after scrubbing in sink with soap) who had returned home a few days prior from her own rehab due to her knee replacement.




So, I am working on it still. I’m better. Every day is a little better. I typed and edited this without crying or welling up, that’s quite an accomplishment.

This is also why I owe an apology for my behavior several months back and maybe even prior to that. I have tried to make amends where I can. Doesn’t excuse my behavior or anything I said. I do apologize to anyone I have offended in regards to this topic. I admit to my having been “triggered” on this topic.

But I do hope with some compassion and some empathy you all can see your way to forgiveness and how discussions about *it can well up a lot of emotions for me, or at least used to, I'm working on it.



One last thing, I was negotiating my sale during all of this, but I never told him. I didn’t want to disappoint him if the deal fell through. This probably is the deepest wound. I know he was proud, but I wanted him to see the end game and that I won.

I never got to tell him that I won.
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Sorry to hear that Dave. I was always worried about my son Joe. He works as a firefighter/EMT. So far we have been lucky here.
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flarider wrote:
Saw this topic during my time out, so I had a couple days to think about it. I’m working on it. As some of you may...
Saw this topic during my time out, so I had a couple days to think about it.

I’m working on it.

As some of you may know, I lost my Father to *it (I can’t use the name here). This was in Miami during the first big wave, before the vaccine was available.
My Father, while healthy with a strong heart/lungs, has been suffering from some dementia. Nothing diagnosed, but you know.

My step mom (SM) has needed knee replacement and it was scheduled on and off due to *it. All of this created stress on both, resulting in my Dad not eating right and losing some weight. Concerned, she took him to hospital and they really found nothing wrong. He was a little thin and underweight, so they offer some rehab to put weight back on and improve his diet. He’s reluctant, but goes. While in there, they go on lock down. All hospital, nursing and rehabs locked down.
A week in, SM gets on surgery schedule for knee, with open and closing hospitals, she had to go for it.

Couple weeks later, Dad gets out. Put weight back on, looks good and doctors release him. I go to take care of him down in Miami while SM is in rehab for her knee. Spent about 5 days with him, being as careful as I could to avoid *it. He never left his condominium. I always wore a mask when I went out.

Early one day he started acting really strange, just a wild restlessness of up and down from his bed or favorite chair. This started at 6am and went on non-stop, literally non-stop, like chasing a child, until 10pm when, after conferring with SM and my wife, I call EMT’s. He was just not right.

The EMT’s do all the usual stuff they can and say he’s in great health, just disoriented. I convince them that this is wrong and odd. They were reluctant to transport, but did.

This was the last time I ever saw my Father in the flesh.

He was admitted and find out the next day it was a severe UTI/urinary tract infection and apparently this can be an issue in older people, it really makes them super disoriented and crazy.

A week after being in the hospital to clear up the UTI, he was diagnosed with *it

No idea when or where he actually got *it.
From me? Was I careless? The EMT’s? The Hospital?

He went from in good health, ready to come home, to dead in less than 48 hours of diagnosis from *it, and that isn’t an exaggeration. He went down like a rock.

I can’t help but feel that while it may not be my fault, it WAS on my watch. I called the EMT’s. I sent him to hospital. I made the call.

I feel tremendous guilt and failure, and I know all the talk, I know all the psycho babble. Doesn’t change it.

At the end, the nursing staff was kind enough to FaceTime him with SM and I, and his eyes were this blank empty void. His heart may have been working, but his soul had left.

Practically watching him die on the iPhone was terrible enough, followed by a sit that seemed to take forever, but was really about a half an hour until the phone rang, and I knew.

Next day I had to make all the arrangements, then go to the hospital to pick up his property., but not his body. You see, because of *it, we couldn’t claim his body. No funeral. Straight to funeral home cooler until able to cremate. He was flat out confiscated. I got the rest of my “Dad” back in a plastic bag… His shoes, clothes, glasses, dentures and wedding band

That’s it, that’s all I got of my Dad as I stood at the door to the crowded ER.

For fear of contamination, I threw all the cloth stuff out right away in the parking lot trash, bagged the others and returned it back to SM (after scrubbing in sink with soap) who had returned home a few days prior from her own rehab due to her knee replacement.




So, I am working on it still. I’m better. Every day is a little better. I typed and edited this without crying or welling up, that’s quite an accomplishment.

This is also why I owe an apology for my behavior several months back and maybe even prior to that. I have tried to make amends where I can. Doesn’t excuse my behavior or anything I said. I do apologize to anyone I have offended in regards to this topic. I admit to my having been “triggered” on this topic.

But I do hope with some compassion and some empathy you all can see your way to forgiveness and how discussions about *it can well up a lot of emotions for me, or at least used to, I'm working on it.



One last thing, I was negotiating my sale during all of this, but I never told him. I didn’t want to disappoint him if the deal fell through. This probably is the deepest wound. I know he was proud, but I wanted him to see the end game and that I won.

I never got to tell him that I won.
Nah that’s not your fault at all, I wouldn’t let thoughts of it get into your head. Just like my Grandpa I took him driving and he was told too never cross hwy 47. Only to turn rt on it. I told My Mom and step dad the same thing , they also took him driving. Actually he drove and we monitored his driving. Funny my Grandma asked me too give her a driving lesson yrs earlier, it was so cute. She wouldn’t allow anyone else to give her a lesson. She drove me to kindergarten when my Mom was with my dad in the mental hospital. My Grandpa wanted to take a diff route after church and the social afterwords. The cemetery is there also. He crossed hwy 47 when it was 94 degrees with heat coming off the rd . A black interepid nailed him going 80 mph a brother and sister from Chicago hit him. We hoped that they where ok and going to make it. Bottom line accidents happen. If I where driving it would’ve been me. I taught him how to use a phone , microwave, oven, wash cloths basically how to take care of himself. I brought a chic along sometimes just told her be yourself and treat him like a friend. She was awesome with him. We listened to blink182 together, he Loved it. he was became so proud of himself and was like a teenager learning new things. I couldn’t speak in church on the microphone like I did for my Grandma. Which I don’t remember a single word of that. It’s like your operating outside of your self everyone said I did great tho.
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I've been going and having a martini with my Dad since his passing.
Captain Gary loved his Martinis.
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