Lapped Swoll holds up Lawrence

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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2022 9:55pm
Is it just me or should Jalek be punished for that?? He was a lap down. Lawrence could’ve easily gotten fun fact boy if Swoll obeyed the blue flags and didn’t interfere!
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fanger 1/23/2022 12:24am
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As the biggest Lawrence nut hugger on this forum, no it's racing and shit happens. Hunter shouldn't have binned it in the whoops.
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Leeham 1/23/2022 12:25am
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Did he hold Lawrence up? Yes. Would Hunter make the pass a 100% no doubt? No. The real deciding factor was him crashing after the whoops. He doesn't do that, then its a real possibility.
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idahokid235 wrote:
Is it just me or should Jalek be punished for that?? He was a lap down. Lawrence could’ve easily gotten fun fact boy if Swoll obeyed...
Is it just me or should Jalek be punished for that?? He was a lap down. Lawrence could’ve easily gotten fun fact boy if Swoll obeyed the blue flags and didn’t interfere!
Welcome to the forum Mr Mirtl...
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Mugeneco 1/23/2022 1:08am
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its racing , shocker is the speed difference in this class between top 3 and rest
its like they are a class above
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bowl 1/23/2022 1:28am
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Mugeneco wrote:
its racing , shocker is the speed difference in this class between top 3 and rest
its like they are a class above
Add shimoda, he got 5th from way back
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Austin_Rankin 1/23/2022 1:35am
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If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes.


Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes.

Hunter passing for first would have been one pass.

Craig going from 20th to 3rd is 17 passes.


No excuse. Mosiman won. Glory be to god❤️.
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CPR 1/23/2022 1:50am
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Austin_Rankin wrote:
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes. Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes. Hunter...
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes.


Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes.

Hunter passing for first would have been one pass.

Craig going from 20th to 3rd is 17 passes.


No excuse. Mosiman won. Glory be to god❤️.
You forgetting Hunter going from 20th to be right on 2nd at the first round?

Hunter had Mosiman covered, just made a mistake going for it.
You know that stuff happens in racing, just like Swoll accidentally getting in the way.
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Austin_Rankin 1/23/2022 1:56am
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@cpr i didnt say i dont know that stuff happens?

And i also didnt say anything negative towards lawrence. You read what i posted its logical, and that is the end of it, mosiman rode great he deserves the win, so many of you suck the lawrences off when others exist too. Track was really one lined tonight and if you wanted to hold momentum you had to play follow the leader unless you played the field like craig did.
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mx313 1/23/2022 2:12am
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Austin_Rankin wrote:
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes. Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes. Hunter...
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes.


Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes.

Hunter passing for first would have been one pass.

Craig going from 20th to 3rd is 17 passes.


No excuse. Mosiman won. Glory be to god❤️.
Craig came from 22- 3. So that's 19 spots.
But mosi and Hunter lapped 16 of those riders.
So those two lapped every1 Craig passed except freise Jo and Mumfy.
So I don't know if Craig passing all those riders is that much of and accomplishment when the leaders almost lapped all those guys.
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tobz 1/23/2022 2:20am
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I’ve been a long time advocate of lappers getting the fuck out of the way and not affecting the leaders what-so-ever.
There’s strong support that leaders need to “find a way around the lapper”

But in SX where passing opportunities can be few and far between, it can be unfairly advantageous amongst a battle and robbing the fans of a good race.

Rule should be, get the fuck out of the way. No one impartial watching the race cares about your battle for 14th.
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Aussie_power_sports 1/23/2022 2:40am
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tobz wrote:
I’ve been a long time advocate of lappers getting the fuck out of the way and not affecting the leaders what-so-ever. There’s strong support that leaders...
I’ve been a long time advocate of lappers getting the fuck out of the way and not affecting the leaders what-so-ever.
There’s strong support that leaders need to “find a way around the lapper”

But in SX where passing opportunities can be few and far between, it can be unfairly advantageous amongst a battle and robbing the fans of a good race.

Rule should be, get the fuck out of the way. No one impartial watching the race cares about your battle for 14th.
With 5 minutes to go, the race should finish for lappers and they be removed from the track. Their positions stand at the finish line and the non lapped riders can keep racing without having their race ruined.

Jalek 100% affected the finish of this race(unitentionally) and should of gotten out of the main line.
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tobz 1/23/2022 2:44am
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tobz wrote:
I’ve been a long time advocate of lappers getting the fuck out of the way and not affecting the leaders what-so-ever. There’s strong support that leaders...
I’ve been a long time advocate of lappers getting the fuck out of the way and not affecting the leaders what-so-ever.
There’s strong support that leaders need to “find a way around the lapper”

But in SX where passing opportunities can be few and far between, it can be unfairly advantageous amongst a battle and robbing the fans of a good race.

Rule should be, get the fuck out of the way. No one impartial watching the race cares about your battle for 14th.
Aussie_power_sports wrote:
With 5 minutes to go, the race should finish for lappers and they be removed from the track. Their positions stand at the finish line and...
With 5 minutes to go, the race should finish for lappers and they be removed from the track. Their positions stand at the finish line and the non lapped riders can keep racing without having their race ruined.

Jalek 100% affected the finish of this race(unitentionally) and should of gotten out of the main line.
I like that idea. I’ve always thought that lappers could be black flagged but that’s just cruel. To finish them with a few laps to go would be perfect.

Will never happen though. “Their race matters too” is a common argument. Reality is, it doesn’t matter.
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Aussie_power_sports 1/23/2022 2:51am
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tobz wrote:
I like that idea. I’ve always thought that lappers could be black flagged but that’s just cruel. To finish them with a few laps to go...
I like that idea. I’ve always thought that lappers could be black flagged but that’s just cruel. To finish them with a few laps to go would be perfect.

Will never happen though. “Their race matters too” is a common argument. Reality is, it doesn’t matter.
Yep, gives guys plenty of time to battle for positions even if they are lapped early due to a race.

Their race does matter until it effects the leaders, then no one cares about the battle for 14th
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jemcee 1/23/2022 3:13am
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tobz wrote:
I’ve been a long time advocate of lappers getting the fuck out of the way and not affecting the leaders what-so-ever. There’s strong support that leaders...
I’ve been a long time advocate of lappers getting the fuck out of the way and not affecting the leaders what-so-ever.
There’s strong support that leaders need to “find a way around the lapper”

But in SX where passing opportunities can be few and far between, it can be unfairly advantageous amongst a battle and robbing the fans of a good race.

Rule should be, get the fuck out of the way. No one impartial watching the race cares about your battle for 14th.
Thing is though, their battle wasn't for 14th it was for 6th.. Swoll should've got out of the way though
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mx313 1/23/2022 3:19am
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Aussie_power_sports wrote:
With 5 minutes to go, the race should finish for lappers and they be removed from the track. Their positions stand at the finish line and...
With 5 minutes to go, the race should finish for lappers and they be removed from the track. Their positions stand at the finish line and the non lapped riders can keep racing without having their race ruined.

Jalek 100% affected the finish of this race(unitentionally) and should of gotten out of the main line.
But that won't work. For 2 reasons. Coz with 5 mins to go your only at the 10 min mark. And at that stage of the race swoll is prob only 30 seconds off the lead.
And in this situation and last year with deano. They are getting in the way b4 they become a lapper.
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Gordon Liddy 1/23/2022 3:44am
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Didn't look like he held him up to me.
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Mugeneco wrote:
its racing , shocker is the speed difference in this class between top 3 and rest
its like they are a class above
Thats because they are.

Too many riders hurt, there are 6 fast guys. tops.


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CPR 1/23/2022 4:02am
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Didn't look like he held him up to me.
So you haven’t watched the race yet?
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He was faster than Mosiman but not by leaps and bounds . There was plenty of time to get the job done before that happened . It looked like he would gain on him in the whoops then either stay the same or lose a little time on the rest of the track .
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deluxeman 1/23/2022 5:27am
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Austin_Rankin wrote:
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes. Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes. Hunter...
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes.


Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes.

Hunter passing for first would have been one pass.

Craig going from 20th to 3rd is 17 passes.


No excuse. Mosiman won. Glory be to god❤️.
CPR wrote:
You forgetting Hunter going from 20th to be right on 2nd at the first round? Hunter had Mosiman covered, just made a mistake going for it...
You forgetting Hunter going from 20th to be right on 2nd at the first round?

Hunter had Mosiman covered, just made a mistake going for it.
You know that stuff happens in racing, just like Swoll accidentally getting in the way.
If he had him covered he would have won. He was quicker in some areas but was slower in others. He did his best to take Moissan out after the whoops but fell himself. Better luck next time.
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idahokid235 wrote:
Is it just me or should Jalek be punished for that?? He was a lap down. Lawrence could’ve easily gotten fun fact boy if Swoll obeyed...
Is it just me or should Jalek be punished for that?? He was a lap down. Lawrence could’ve easily gotten fun fact boy if Swoll obeyed the blue flags and didn’t interfere!
Was he a lap down or on the lead lap? There is a difference
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Gordon Liddy 1/23/2022 5:33am
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Gordon Liddy wrote:
Didn't look like he held him up to me.
CPR wrote:
So you haven’t watched the race yet?
I watched the whole thing.
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mx317 1/23/2022 5:43am
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mx313 wrote:
Craig came from 22- 3. So that's 19 spots. But mosi and Hunter lapped 16 of those riders. So those two lapped every1 Craig passed except...
Craig came from 22- 3. So that's 19 spots.
But mosi and Hunter lapped 16 of those riders.
So those two lapped every1 Craig passed except freise Jo and Mumfy.
So I don't know if Craig passing all those riders is that much of and accomplishment when the leaders almost lapped all those guys.
Craig had to have lapped a large portion of them also.
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Coenmx 1/23/2022 5:48am
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Austin_Rankin wrote:
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes. Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes. Hunter...
If craig can come from 20th to 3rd in 20 minutes.


Hunter should have been able to make the pass for first within 20 minutes.

Hunter passing for first would have been one pass.

Craig going from 20th to 3rd is 17 passes.


No excuse. Mosiman won. Glory be to god❤️.
CPR wrote:
You forgetting Hunter going from 20th to be right on 2nd at the first round? Hunter had Mosiman covered, just made a mistake going for it...
You forgetting Hunter going from 20th to be right on 2nd at the first round?

Hunter had Mosiman covered, just made a mistake going for it.
You know that stuff happens in racing, just like Swoll accidentally getting in the way.
deluxeman wrote:
If he had him covered he would have won. He was quicker in some areas but was slower in others. He did his best to take...
If he had him covered he would have won. He was quicker in some areas but was slower in others. He did his best to take Moissan out after the whoops but fell himself. Better luck next time.
Did you watch he got sideways last few whoops trying to avoid the lapper in whoops and crashed, his head hit mosiman back tyre it wasn’t a takeout attempt .
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TbonesPop 1/23/2022 8:33am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
He was faster than Mosiman but not by leaps and bounds . There was plenty of time to get the job done before that happened...
He was faster than Mosiman but not by leaps and bounds . There was plenty of time to get the job done before that happened . It looked like he would gain on him in the whoops then either stay the same or lose a little time on the rest of the track .
It looked to me like Mosiman backed it down a little to not crash and given his propensity to wad himself at critical points in a race, that was a good call. Lawrence went for it, which I respect, but that also caused the crash in the whoops late. Lawrence was faster in the whoops and Mosiman was faster on the rest of the track. Looked like Mosiman was riding at 98% and Hunter 105%.

Overall, it was great racing and very exciting to watch. Happy for Mosiman to get his first win. I would have been equally happy for Hunter had he won. Great racing between those two.

Also fun watching Craig and Jo work through the pack after the first turn crash.
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crusty_xx 1/23/2022 8:53am
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idahokid235 wrote:
Is it just me or should Jalek be punished for that?? He was a lap down. Lawrence could’ve easily gotten fun fact boy if Swoll obeyed...
Is it just me or should Jalek be punished for that?? He was a lap down. Lawrence could’ve easily gotten fun fact boy if Swoll obeyed the blue flags and didn’t interfere!
He held up Mosiman a lot more (off camera). Hunter wouldn't have caught him without Swolls help so can't really blame Swoll for not getting the win
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creature654 1/23/2022 9:37am
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I like Hunter, but every time he’s on screen this year it seems like he’s a bit sketchy. Makes kind of strange racing decisions as if the pressure of the title fight is already getting to him. I’d like to see him straight up run with Craig but for some reason he just seems a bit off.
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inthebadboycorner 1/23/2022 9:52am
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As we all know from the past, passing lappers can go one of three ways, this time Hunter and Jake got it wrong.
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TBOLTUSA 1/23/2022 9:57am
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Hunter had almost the entire race to make the pass but was unable to do so
That one situation was just another lap of failed attempts to secure the position
its one thing to get close to a rider , its another to make a pass and pull away
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LoudLove 1/23/2022 10:10am
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mx313 wrote:
Craig came from 22- 3. So that's 19 spots. But mosi and Hunter lapped 16 of those riders. So those two lapped every1 Craig passed except...
Craig came from 22- 3. So that's 19 spots.
But mosi and Hunter lapped 16 of those riders.
So those two lapped every1 Craig passed except freise Jo and Mumfy.
So I don't know if Craig passing all those riders is that much of and accomplishment when the leaders almost lapped all those guys.
mx317 wrote:
Craig had to have lapped a large portion of them also.
Plus the guys Craig passed were fighting him for position, versus having a blue flagged waived at them.
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