IF or WHEN e-bikes take over, what will you miss most about fuel bikes?

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Edited Date/Time 1/7/2022 4:31pm
Curious what yall think.
Im gonna miss all the moving parts working perfectly together. The engineering behind the bike is like fine wine. Just looking at parts thinking how they were made makes me appreciate it more. They are works of art in my mind. Nothing beats a fresh showroom looking bike. I guess being a tool maker has given me this outlook. But who cant forget the amazing smell of race gas!
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gt80rider 1/6/2022 9:23am
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I'll tell ya....

1. power delivery... oh yes, electric has crazy power... but it's wonky.. electric have max torque at zero RPM, thus easily overpowering the tire and throwing tons of roost.. but all that low-end yank is harder to ride than a gas engine... and oh yes, you can use a programmer and change the "powerband", but electric will never be as easy to ride as gas...

2. gassing up takes 1 minute before you can ride again, re-charging takes 45 min-4 hours...
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GingerSnapRacing 1/6/2022 9:30am
1/6/2022 9:30am
I’d say as someone who works on their own stuff.
I’d say the aspect of performance is based upon your ability to keep the bike in tune. Some of this has been lost with fuel injection 4 stroke but mapping at least has some effect.
Like proper base gasket height, plug gap, powervalve timing, jetting, packing silencers, valve adjustments and ect.
Transmissions with gears and clutches (might exist with some upcoming models)

The sound of a properly running machine nice packed exhaust running on the ragged edge of reliability and failure.

The smell of 927

Yes electrics can have performance mods of some sort but I don’t think we will be seeing many guys winding their own motors or building battery packs. Most of the time will be focused on chassis setup and power delivery mapping.

With that said I’m into the E bikes and hope it can improve our sports reach. The whiskey throttle aspect is sketch with all that torque though 😂
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stone881 1/6/2022 9:45am
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Cleaning air filters!

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J-Mill 1/6/2022 9:47am
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All of the aftermarket exhaust companies would be one thing I’d miss. All the bad ass shops who build race motors. Teaching your kids how to change oil or do top ends. Being able to fix bikes on my own. Etc etc etc.
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Joshua Knight 1/6/2022 9:55am
1/6/2022 9:55am
The sound. Sound is very important to riding.
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sandtrack315 1/6/2022 10:02am
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I agree that just the amount of parts, and how they all work together, is awesome. When you look at an ICE bike, there are so many cool little parts, not to mention everything inside the engine. With a e-bike, it's boring, at least visually, in comparison.
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Moto Obsessed 1/6/2022 10:04am
1/6/2022 10:04am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2022 10:06am
The mechanical nature of them in general. I can grasp the concept of anything mechanical. Electricity is a different beast. I view it as wizardry to be honest. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait to learn more and truly understand the how/why of the various components and their functions on electric bikes... but understanding electricity is just much less intuitive. but again - I look forward to it and embrace the challenge!

I just pray the OEMs don't go the Tesla route and make it impossible / prohibitive for folks to perform their own service work

and folks; it's not if - but when..
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FWYT 1/6/2022 10:18am
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Good question and digging these responses. Carry on.
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FWYT 1/6/2022 10:21am
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For sure I will miss those things that contribute to the haptic experience. The smell, the vibrations, the sound of course!
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mmcmx 1/6/2022 10:22am
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I'll miss my balls, got confy with them over the years.
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rohleder644 1/6/2022 10:34am
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Honestly, just about everything. 927 and race gas will be sorely missed. The sound of my 125 at full tilt boogie for sure. And I’m hoping I can get used to the no clutch thing. That’ll take a bunch of adapting for me. Too many years on a 125.

But, it is what it is. I’m gonna enjoy the fuck out of ripping whatever version of a 2 wheeler the market allows.
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Tumic 1/6/2022 10:40am
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rohleder644 wrote:
Honestly, just about everything. 927 and race gas will be sorely missed. The sound of my 125 at full tilt boogie for sure. And I’m hoping...
Honestly, just about everything. 927 and race gas will be sorely missed. The sound of my 125 at full tilt boogie for sure. And I’m hoping I can get used to the no clutch thing. That’ll take a bunch of adapting for me. Too many years on a 125.

But, it is what it is. I’m gonna enjoy the fuck out of ripping whatever version of a 2 wheeler the market allows.
Same here, smell of race gas and small bore two strokes.

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Kicking it over and starting within three kicks after a long winter.
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Magoofan 1/6/2022 11:10am
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I'll miss me being a fan of the sport. Without the sound or aroma of fuel/exhaust....the sport is dead to me. I might as well take up drone race spectating.

Flame on...don't care.
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KurtJ99 1/6/2022 11:21am
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Will miss most remembering the feel of what it was like when I was fast! Even if it's not true....

I am absolutely going to get an ebike (hoping for Honda in my lifetime), but don't anticipate ever selling my CR two strokes.
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ACBraap 1/6/2022 11:59am
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The smell of 2 stroke exhaust. The sound of a well tuned two stroke. Blipping the throttle and hearing that bark.

What I won't miss: cleaning air filters, mixing and storing gas, messing with carbs, spark plugs, and engines in general.
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Talisker 1/6/2022 12:03pm
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I will miss having to measure and file the ring end gap!!!
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Chippy 1/6/2022 2:12pm
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gt80rider wrote:
I'll tell ya.... 1. power delivery... oh yes, electric has crazy power... but it's wonky.. electric have max torque at zero RPM, thus easily overpowering the...
I'll tell ya....

1. power delivery... oh yes, electric has crazy power... but it's wonky.. electric have max torque at zero RPM, thus easily overpowering the tire and throwing tons of roost.. but all that low-end yank is harder to ride than a gas engine... and oh yes, you can use a programmer and change the "powerband", but electric will never be as easy to ride as gas...

2. gassing up takes 1 minute before you can ride again, re-charging takes 45 min-4 hours...
Have you ridden an Alta, for example?
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Thisusernameisavailable 1/6/2022 2:20pm
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gt80rider wrote:
I'll tell ya.... 1. power delivery... oh yes, electric has crazy power... but it's wonky.. electric have max torque at zero RPM, thus easily overpowering the...
I'll tell ya....

1. power delivery... oh yes, electric has crazy power... but it's wonky.. electric have max torque at zero RPM, thus easily overpowering the tire and throwing tons of roost.. but all that low-end yank is harder to ride than a gas engine... and oh yes, you can use a programmer and change the "powerband", but electric will never be as easy to ride as gas...

2. gassing up takes 1 minute before you can ride again, re-charging takes 45 min-4 hours...
This has gotta be sarcasm, right??
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dontdrinkandpost 1/6/2022 2:39pm
1/6/2022 2:39pm
I will miss the sound off the start, and the noise in general......That is it, but it will take a lot away as a spectator.
dontdrinkandpost 1/6/2022 2:40pm
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gt80rider wrote:
I'll tell ya.... 1. power delivery... oh yes, electric has crazy power... but it's wonky.. electric have max torque at zero RPM, thus easily overpowering the...
I'll tell ya....

1. power delivery... oh yes, electric has crazy power... but it's wonky.. electric have max torque at zero RPM, thus easily overpowering the tire and throwing tons of roost.. but all that low-end yank is harder to ride than a gas engine... and oh yes, you can use a programmer and change the "powerband", but electric will never be as easy to ride as gas...

2. gassing up takes 1 minute before you can ride again, re-charging takes 45 min-4 hours...
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
This has gotta be sarcasm, right??
The power delivery will be so much better on electric bikes that it will be unfair against gas bikes, point 2 is correct though.....for now.
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byke 1/6/2022 3:21pm
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Nothing.

Remember when 4t's took over 2t's and you couldn't buy them anymore?

Me either.
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Loftin79 1/6/2022 3:24pm
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I will miss the clutch. You know those times you make a mistake and whiskey throttle and have to pull in the clutch to save yourself? Well those electric bikes are just going to shoot off and take you for a ride
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industryoutsider391 1/6/2022 3:28pm
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The sweet smell of race gas in the morning.
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Moto Nomad 1/6/2022 3:30pm
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Without a doubt, the sound of the pack roaring into the first turn. It's going to have all the acoustic impact of hearing a bunch of vacuum cleaners.
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cwel11 1/6/2022 3:45pm
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The moment 40 electric bikes come off the gate at a National and all you here is chain slap is the moment the sport I love dies for me. Could you really imagine being on the far hill at Unadilla and hearing absolutely nothing but an announcer screaming like a dope and that’s it. Awkward.
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MotofactioN 1/6/2022 4:03pm
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I’ll miss all of the aftermarket companies within the motocross industry that will die and go out of business when E bikes takeover. All there will be is Levers, brakes, chains, tires and sprockets. And suspension. Everything else is gone.
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zacksavchuk 1/6/2022 4:13pm
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Can we let the horse live for a little bit before we beat it???
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vitalriderCrf 1/6/2022 4:29pm
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Electric bikes will be the next air forks, mark my words. The manufactures may want us to switch and some may be on board and all about it, but for the sport as a whole is concerned it's not going to work. E-Bikes probably sound amazing in theory but in reality I don't see the entire sport just switching over night. Especially for competitive racing. They will completely obliterate core industry companies like Pro Circuit, FMF, Yosh etc which regardless of how you feel could be a major issue. Am I saying the technology is completely lame and useless? Absolutely not. That Stark bike looks really good. I just feel they will be more popular and useful for urban riding around the house or something, not for racing or competition use. I also see a lot of people comparing E Bikes to the four stroke revolution when there's no way you can compare the two. Four strokes were still an internal combustion engine. A four stroke is still a motocross bike while an electric bike should be categorized as something else entirely. I don't see anyone else mentioning this but, I can't imagine feld and MX Sports being on board. Nobody is going to pay to come watch electric bikes race.
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