First Look KTM Factory Editions, all-new 450 SX-F and 250 SX-F

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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Has anyone heard prices on these bikes yet? 450 or 250? I got a quote of $16,000 for the 250 Whistling
I saw 10.5 and 11.5 posted on here a couple times.
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Has anyone heard prices on these bikes yet? 450 or 250? I got a quote of $16,000 for the 250 Whistling
Retail is $10,600 on the ktm site for the 250. I am sure some dealers are going to try to jack up the price like they are on the kx450sr.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 12/13/2021 1:05pm
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Has anyone heard prices on these bikes yet? 450 or 250? I got a quote of $16,000 for the 250 Whistling
wrc777 wrote:
Retail is $10,600 on the ktm site for the 250. I am sure some dealers are going to try to jack up the price like they...
Retail is $10,600 on the ktm site for the 250. I am sure some dealers are going to try to jack up the price like they are on the kx450sr.
Ok yeah, I think the dealer(Power Motorsports) is high(on drugs) quoting, $16,000. I called another shop that has Huskys and he said $10,600 out the door. All good!
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CarlinoJoeVideo 12/14/2021 2:21pm
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Do you think the existing WP shocks will fit?

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crawfishoo 12/22/2021 1:17am
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Anyone know yet on wheel compatibly? I'm getting a set of new wheels for Christmas and would be a real bummer if they won't transfer to the next generation bikes. A few comments said front is the same but unsure about the rear.
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crawfishoo wrote:
Anyone know yet on wheel compatibly? I'm getting a set of new wheels for Christmas and would be a real bummer if they won't transfer to...
Anyone know yet on wheel compatibly? I'm getting a set of new wheels for Christmas and would be a real bummer if they won't transfer to the next generation bikes. A few comments said front is the same but unsure about the rear.
The new bike has a 22mm rear axle so you will probably have to just get 22mm internals/spacers.
oliveiramartins 12/22/2021 1:30am
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When will it be available at dealers? February? I already order mine but don’t even know the price…
crawfishoo 12/22/2021 5:40am
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crawfishoo wrote:
Anyone know yet on wheel compatibly? I'm getting a set of new wheels for Christmas and would be a real bummer if they won't transfer to...
Anyone know yet on wheel compatibly? I'm getting a set of new wheels for Christmas and would be a real bummer if they won't transfer to the next generation bikes. A few comments said front is the same but unsure about the rear.
Motofinne wrote:
The new bike has a 22mm rear axle so you will probably have to just get 22mm internals/spacers.
Yes, I did see that the axle size is changing. I'm hoping as you said, that a set of spacers will make the rear wheel work. Or swapping axle blocks will allow the use of the previous generation axle. Fingers crossed, the wife is not going to be happy if I have to buy another rear wheel ha!
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Kyle_Pavlik 12/30/2021 4:10am
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Any word when to expect these in to dealerships yet ?
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Kyle_Pavlik wrote:
Any word when to expect these in to dealerships yet ?
I’ve heard early February.
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Kyle_Pavlik wrote:
Any word when to expect these in to dealerships yet ?
ML512 wrote:
I’ve heard early February.
Thank you, ML
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Has anybody from the media ridden one?
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ML512 1/1/2022 10:16am
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#434 wrote:
Has anybody from the media ridden one?
Media won't be riding them until late January at the earliest.
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#434 1/1/2022 10:43am
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#434 wrote:
Has anybody from the media ridden one?
ML512 wrote:
Media won't be riding them until late January at the earliest.
Thanks for the quick response!
What are you’re expectations? Pretty big changes on the chassis side!
What have you heard about the new 250 engine?
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Do you think the existing WP shocks will fit? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/14/522894/s1200_7F02B022_182B_41D6_8060_09D511B4F7B0.jpg[/img]
Do you think the existing WP shocks will fit?

Hope so, just bought a shock for my 22. Even if it requires a shock shaft change to fit, nbd. Anyone know?
mx_phreek 1/1/2022 12:14pm
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I'm guessing not or they'd be using current shock
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Bruce372 1/1/2022 12:39pm
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So is the frame the same across 250, 350, 450?

What about the cases? Was that of the early rumors?

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#434 1/1/2022 6:22pm
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Bruce372 wrote:
So is the frame the same across 250, 350, 450?

What about the cases? Was that of the early rumors?

Same frame, same cases for 250 and 350. 250/350 cases have of course the same mounting points as the 450 cases.
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hushpuff wrote:
No mention of the connectivity unit or MYKTM app tuning... I really enjoyed that on the 2021.5, wonder if you'll be able to add it. Orange...
No mention of the connectivity unit or MYKTM app tuning... I really enjoyed that on the 2021.5, wonder if you'll be able to add it.

Orange seat cover is too much, the Blue seat would have been better.

Any ideas when dealers will see them?
I thought for sure the digital tuner would be integrated(as opposed to the giant/ugly handlebar box) in the next generation bikes. So you're saying they've removed it altogether? I see they've also removed the slip-on Akropovic exhaust from the FE which is odd given the price hasn't decreased and competitors such as Kawasaki's new FE come with the full PC exhaust.
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sandman768 wrote:
No Akro slip on? For this $ I want a pipe!
ThePizzaCobra wrote:
Thought the same but I’m sure it has something to do with supply chain issues. It’s been tough getting any sort of aftermarket pipes this last...
Thought the same but I’m sure it has something to do with supply chain issues. It’s been tough getting any sort of aftermarket pipes this last 12 months
Mr. Afterbar wrote:
The factory editions that are a new generation never come with the Akropovich exhaust. On these years, you're paying to have the latest.
What?
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sandman768 wrote:
No Akro slip on? For this $ I want a pipe!
ThePizzaCobra wrote:
Thought the same but I’m sure it has something to do with supply chain issues. It’s been tough getting any sort of aftermarket pipes this last...
Thought the same but I’m sure it has something to do with supply chain issues. It’s been tough getting any sort of aftermarket pipes this last 12 months
SPYGUY wrote:
The FE's that introduce a new generation bike never feature aftermarket exhausts. They only throw those on the subsequent FE models that are unchanged.
Interesting... Any idea what the logic is? Are the aftermarket manufacturers not able to spec out a new exhaust system in time for launch or something?
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ThePizzaCobra wrote:
Thought the same but I’m sure it has something to do with supply chain issues. It’s been tough getting any sort of aftermarket pipes this last...
Thought the same but I’m sure it has something to do with supply chain issues. It’s been tough getting any sort of aftermarket pipes this last 12 months
SPYGUY wrote:
The FE's that introduce a new generation bike never feature aftermarket exhausts. They only throw those on the subsequent FE models that are unchanged.
HusqFan3 wrote:
Interesting... Any idea what the logic is? Are the aftermarket manufacturers not able to spec out a new exhaust system in time for launch or something?
As stated before, it probably is that on the first year you get and pay for a new model ahead of time, while in the following years they try to make it more appealing by adding some more "power parts" to it
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JMX82 1/10/2022 10:11pm
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Herlings bike looks much better with a blue seat cover. He has split design only in top triple clamp and the bottom one has traditional design.
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JMX82 wrote:
Herlings bike looks much better with a blue seat cover. He has split design only in top triple clamp and the bottom one has traditional design...
Herlings bike looks much better with a blue seat cover. He has split design only in top triple clamp and the bottom one has traditional design.
The black frame made it look good. I think too much orange is, well, too much!

It would be cool to see some close ups of that bike and bottom triple clamp. It doesnt looks like something regular Joe could buy!
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JMX82 1/14/2022 2:18am
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Herlings bike with orange frame

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Pirate421 1/14/2022 5:17am
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I saw mxa posted a video around plessingers bike yesterday and it looks like the factory guys aren’t using that front frame brace any more. I guess the new frame is stiff enough? I think the us guys were using that brace for at least the last two season.
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#434 2/3/2022 4:12am
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Damn, those new KTMs are slick! Everything is so nicely integrated and neatly done. Can't wait to see the TBI-twostrokes in the new chassis.
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SeaClassExpert 2/3/2022 8:49am
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Do you think the existing WP shocks will fit? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/14/522894/s1200_7F02B022_182B_41D6_8060_09D511B4F7B0.jpg[/img]
Do you think the existing WP shocks will fit?

Ping confirmed in his review that the older ones will not fit, the new shocks are 20mm shorter.

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