Amateur Sponsorship Advice?

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Edited Date/Time 12/20/2021 7:39pm
I'll try to keep it concise, but any advice is helpful!

23 year old guy planning on racing the areas and regionals in the B class, went to Loretta's on 50s and 85s. This is my first season on my own after graduating college, and the financial gravity of the sport sure is setting in. It isn't deterring me from chasing the dream so here we are.

When I was growing up there was sponsorhouse.com (not sure if it still exists), and I'm not even sure what all it entailed saying I was sponsored by Scott for goggles and M2R for helmets (maybe they gave my parents discount on gear or something? or it didn't entail anything and I was just riding with their sticker on my graphics. some clarity on that would be nice).

I guess my main questions are what is the best approach to getting support from more mainstream companies in the sport? And on the opposite side, what are some successful approaches for reaching out to local shops or businesses for their support? I'm not going to be the next Chase Sexton, so marketing my skill won't bring the Brinks truck to my door, but just looking for something to make this spring/summer a little
easier on the wallet. It's a very open question, so take it how you want and any advice is greatly appreciated!
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Best advice I can give you is get a good job. If you spent the time at work instead of worrying about being sponsored, you will be ahead.
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12/20/2021 7:45am Edited Date/Time 12/20/2021 7:48am
Put together a resume. Most companies have a place on their website to apply for some level of support. You're a few weeks late getting support for next year as many aren't accepting resumes any longer and have selected their riders. Doesn't mean you won't have any luck though.
Get on Hookit as well, it's a good place to start. You're probably not going to get a great deal from anyone and some aren't even worth using as you end up paying more for the products after shipping. However, it opens the door to build a relationship with some companies. My kid got a deal through Hookit with a company that was a small discount that really didn't account for much. Well that year at Loretta's we met some people from the company. My kid spent all of 5-10 minutes talking to them and left there with a much better support deal with that company. We now go direct to them instead of through Hookit.

As far as local shops, go talk to them. Bring them a resume and tell them what your goals are and what races you'll be attending. It also helps if you've bought bikes from them and not just a random person to them.

Don't expect to get enough support to make any real difference in the cost of racing though. There are kids winning and pulling podiums at Loretta's year after year and have very little support.
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motoman998
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Braaaphole wrote:
Put together a resume. Most companies have a place on their website to apply for some level of support. You're a few weeks late getting support...
Put together a resume. Most companies have a place on their website to apply for some level of support. You're a few weeks late getting support for next year as many aren't accepting resumes any longer and have selected their riders. Doesn't mean you won't have any luck though.
Get on Hookit as well, it's a good place to start. You're probably not going to get a great deal from anyone and some aren't even worth using as you end up paying more for the products after shipping. However, it opens the door to build a relationship with some companies. My kid got a deal through Hookit with a company that was a small discount that really didn't account for much. Well that year at Loretta's we met some people from the company. My kid spent all of 5-10 minutes talking to them and left there with a much better support deal with that company. We now go direct to them instead of through Hookit.

As far as local shops, go talk to them. Bring them a resume and tell them what your goals are and what races you'll be attending. It also helps if you've bought bikes from them and not just a random person to them.

Don't expect to get enough support to make any real difference in the cost of racing though. There are kids winning and pulling podiums at Loretta's year after year and have very little support.
Amazing advice. Thank you so much!
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Better off hitting up some local business to run their name/logo for some cash than getting anything form industry companies. Any relatives/friends with a small business? Hit them up. Your 23, do you and your friends hang out at the same bar/entertainment establishment? If you have a relationship with the owner they may throw some cash your way. Local excavating company maybe help you with your practice track if you run their logo. All you are going to get from the industry companies is a discount off some product that often times can be beat by buying from online companies, but guess any help is better than no help.
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yak651 wrote:
Better off hitting up some local business to run their name/logo for some cash than getting anything form industry companies. Any relatives/friends with a small business...
Better off hitting up some local business to run their name/logo for some cash than getting anything form industry companies. Any relatives/friends with a small business? Hit them up. Your 23, do you and your friends hang out at the same bar/entertainment establishment? If you have a relationship with the owner they may throw some cash your way. Local excavating company maybe help you with your practice track if you run their logo. All you are going to get from the industry companies is a discount off some product that often times can be beat by buying from online companies, but guess any help is better than no help.
Thanks for the input! I guess my hesitation towards something like that was putting my self in the shoes of the business thinking "How can this guy having our logo on his bike racing 3 states away benefit our business here?". Just need to put myself out there and see what happens
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12/20/2021 8:34am Edited Date/Time 12/20/2021 8:39am
We live in a day and age of social media. So start learning about how to promote yourself. Try to build a social media following on one of the major platforms. It would make it easier to say "Hey I have 10k followers across the U.S. and I could help advertise your business across my social media."

DM me your instagram, if you are fun to follow you will at least have one more follower..

I am absolutely all for people being themselves but if you try to go the social media route, look through your pages/posts and remove anything that is negative or in bad taste.

If you meet with business owners in person, make your self presentable and learn how to like speak, like clear, and um like, make it easy to like, get your point across.. Remove "um" and "uh", and "like" from your everyday vocabulary.

Also, I'll add, have a clear goal to explain to these people of what you want to do, how you are going to do it, and how you can help them help you.

Put yourself in the other peoples shoes, "why would I want to give this guy a discount or even money for riding his dirtbike? What is the benefit to me other than being nice?"

Last thing, have fun with it, get out and meet people and make friends and acquaintances while you can (acquaintances can pay off later especially with job opportunities). You are trying to do what a lot of us dream of doing, or wish we would have tried. So enjoy it!
12/20/2021 8:36am
Some small package delivery co.s operate in 2-3 states. Like Brad said hit small businesses up. Your young I,m sure you know of some young women. Pay 2 of them 80 each to go with ya, tell them to act fun and hip. The co then will b like wow looks like fun. I want to b a part of it. Get the girls to design your shirts sell the merch. Search on where to buy the cheapest tshirts. Etc. start a llc buisness and funnel money out into your racing.
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We accept race resumes for the next years sponsorship for 3 months. From after Lorettas to Halloween October 31st.

Sponsorship is cut from every businesses advertising budget so how are you helping them advertising to repay them?

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I'll probably get a hard time for posting these but we put together a few blogs last year to help riders understand what most brands are looking for when it comes to rider support. What seems like common knowledge to those of us who've been around it our whole lives and work in the industry is not common knowledge to everyone, so we felt like these couldn't hurt. Everything from defining rider support to building lifelong relationships.

What Is Rider Support?
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-1-…

Resume Building
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-2-…

Making The Most Of Rider Support
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-3-…

Developing Relationships
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-4-devel…


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12/20/2021 10:30am
Any company will sponsor you if you have a plan to bring them business.

In fact, I'll sponsor you myself - I'll give you $30k per year. All I need from you is to drive $100ks worth of business to my door. If you can send me an e-mail containing details of exactly how you can drive that business to my door, Im all ears.

Switch your thinking- its not what the COMPANY can do for YOU- its about what YOU can do for their company.

Contact them and rtell them how you can boost their business, if its viable, they'll write you a cheque.
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At your age, obviously you are not going to make a living racing, so it's just for fun. So, to Moto companies, the best thing you can be is a loyal customer. Form a good relationship with the companies you like the most. I have done this with Motorsport.com, TwinAir, Factory Connection, and RynoPower. I don't get free stuff, but I get a discount on stuff I was buying anyways, and I post their stuff on social media.
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Jape_628 wrote:
I'll probably get a hard time for posting these but we put together a few blogs last year to help riders understand what most brands are...
I'll probably get a hard time for posting these but we put together a few blogs last year to help riders understand what most brands are looking for when it comes to rider support. What seems like common knowledge to those of us who've been around it our whole lives and work in the industry is not common knowledge to everyone, so we felt like these couldn't hurt. Everything from defining rider support to building lifelong relationships.

What Is Rider Support?
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-1-…

Resume Building
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-2-…

Making The Most Of Rider Support
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-3-…

Developing Relationships
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-4-devel…


There's no reason you should get a hard time for posting those; I just read through all of them and they're spot on. It's a good resource for anyone looking for sponsorship.
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yak651 wrote:
Better off hitting up some local business to run their name/logo for some cash than getting anything form industry companies. Any relatives/friends with a small business...
Better off hitting up some local business to run their name/logo for some cash than getting anything form industry companies. Any relatives/friends with a small business? Hit them up. Your 23, do you and your friends hang out at the same bar/entertainment establishment? If you have a relationship with the owner they may throw some cash your way. Local excavating company maybe help you with your practice track if you run their logo. All you are going to get from the industry companies is a discount off some product that often times can be beat by buying from online companies, but guess any help is better than no help.
motoman998 wrote:
Thanks for the input! I guess my hesitation towards something like that was putting my self in the shoes of the business thinking "How can this...
Thanks for the input! I guess my hesitation towards something like that was putting my self in the shoes of the business thinking "How can this guy having our logo on his bike racing 3 states away benefit our business here?". Just need to put myself out there and see what happens
You need to get the buisness owner involved, say maybe the buisness owner is male with young children, don’t go straight in asking for something, invite him along with his children when the weather is good etc and get them involved with what your doing make it a fun day for them, show them the family oriented atmosphere of motocross, that dad might see the opportunity here of getting his kids off there iPads and enjoying themselves outdoors, and he gets quality time with his kids! There benefits!, you might be able to even assist guiding the kids in getting into the sport! Point is he’s getting something for his money! Your doing something for him! You have to sell it at the end of the day!
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Jape_628 wrote:
I'll probably get a hard time for posting these but we put together a few blogs last year to help riders understand what most brands are...
I'll probably get a hard time for posting these but we put together a few blogs last year to help riders understand what most brands are looking for when it comes to rider support. What seems like common knowledge to those of us who've been around it our whole lives and work in the industry is not common knowledge to everyone, so we felt like these couldn't hurt. Everything from defining rider support to building lifelong relationships.

What Is Rider Support?
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-1-…

Resume Building
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-2-…

Making The Most Of Rider Support
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-blog-3-…

Developing Relationships
https://fasstco.com/blogs/fasstcompanynews/rider-support-series-4-devel…


Luxon MX wrote:
There's no reason you should get a hard time for posting those; I just read through all of them and they're spot on. It's a good...
There's no reason you should get a hard time for posting those; I just read through all of them and they're spot on. It's a good resource for anyone looking for sponsorship.
Thanks BW. Former Ridgecrest native here, too. I grew up idolizing your old track on Kendall. Actually got to roll around it with you, Colby, Burson, and the Sweanys in like 01 or 02 but I was on an 80 and out of my comfort zone haha. Cheers man. Thanks for the kind words.
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12/20/2021 2:05pm
I have 20+ years working in professional racing... First thing you need to do is establish yourself as a team/business, sponsors will see this as a business to business transaction, so you need to be established as one. Next put a plan / proposal in writing. which series are you planning to run, what your budget looks like for each round, whos working with you, what equipment you have, and what kind of rig you are using. Then you need to sell it to your potential sponsors, what are they getting for their money, what kind of guarantees do they have.
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Jape_628 wrote:
Thanks BW. Former Ridgecrest native here, too. I grew up idolizing your old track on Kendall. Actually got to roll around it with you, Colby, Burson...
Thanks BW. Former Ridgecrest native here, too. I grew up idolizing your old track on Kendall. Actually got to roll around it with you, Colby, Burson, and the Sweanys in like 01 or 02 but I was on an 80 and out of my comfort zone haha. Cheers man. Thanks for the kind words.
Wow, small world! And those were good times!




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I own a small business in a small town. I get approached frequently for sponsorships - some moto, some after prom parties, sports posters, VFW pancake supper - you name it, we've "sponsored" it. You mentioned how it can help a businesses three states away .... it can't, but I know that when I write the check. It's a donation to help a cause, whether that cause is a racer or a fundraiser. I write the check and it goes in to the accountant as a donation.

The best advice I can give is to be as professional as possible in appearance and presentation. One of my pet peeves is to see an individual have misspelled words, using the wrong your and you're, etc. Put a little effort into proofreading a resume and/or cover letter. Or even a post on IG. If you aren't a good writer (you're a college grad so you're ahead of the curve there), have someone else proofread it. Ask for their most updated logo. Ask how to spell their names so you know you got it right. If someone comes in to see me in person, the least we write a check for is $100. If someone mails me a request that they mailed to everyone in town, they're lucky to get $25, if anything.

I gave $350 to a racer one time racing in Texas (I'm in Wyoming). Didn't help my business at all. Didn't change her life, but it damn sure filled her tank a few times. It all adds up.

I once sponsored a local race. The "promoter" printed posters and handed them out around town with my name and the WRONG business. Zero effort. One of my clients paid out of his own pocket to reprint them correctly and go round them all up. Dizzy
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Gilby122 wrote:
I own a small business in a small town. I get approached frequently for sponsorships - some moto, some after prom parties, sports posters, VFW pancake...
I own a small business in a small town. I get approached frequently for sponsorships - some moto, some after prom parties, sports posters, VFW pancake supper - you name it, we've "sponsored" it. You mentioned how it can help a businesses three states away .... it can't, but I know that when I write the check. It's a donation to help a cause, whether that cause is a racer or a fundraiser. I write the check and it goes in to the accountant as a donation.

The best advice I can give is to be as professional as possible in appearance and presentation. One of my pet peeves is to see an individual have misspelled words, using the wrong your and you're, etc. Put a little effort into proofreading a resume and/or cover letter. Or even a post on IG. If you aren't a good writer (you're a college grad so you're ahead of the curve there), have someone else proofread it. Ask for their most updated logo. Ask how to spell their names so you know you got it right. If someone comes in to see me in person, the least we write a check for is $100. If someone mails me a request that they mailed to everyone in town, they're lucky to get $25, if anything.

I gave $350 to a racer one time racing in Texas (I'm in Wyoming). Didn't help my business at all. Didn't change her life, but it damn sure filled her tank a few times. It all adds up.

I once sponsored a local race. The "promoter" printed posters and handed them out around town with my name and the WRONG business. Zero effort. One of my clients paid out of his own pocket to reprint them correctly and go round them all up. Dizzy
So, you're saying that you don't like....

HEY BRO,

IM LOOKIN 4 SPONSOR SO HMU IF YOU WANT FREE ADVERTIZING I DO MY BEST TO SHOW UR PRODUCTS AN GIVE IT MY ALL.

THANX,

AYDRYAN

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byke wrote:
So, you're saying that you don't like.... HEY BRO, IM LOOKIN 4 SPONSOR SO HMU IF YOU WANT FREE ADVERTIZING I DO MY BEST TO SHOW...
So, you're saying that you don't like....

HEY BRO,

IM LOOKIN 4 SPONSOR SO HMU IF YOU WANT FREE ADVERTIZING I DO MY BEST TO SHOW UR PRODUCTS AN GIVE IT MY ALL.

THANX,

AYDRYAN

$10 check and my competitions logo! Laughing
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Over the years I handled Sponsorship for a couple of Christian amateur motocross teams and most recently I helped a friend with a group of about 15 amateurs in his training program. He has since moved on an is working with the factory teams but I learned a lot in the process.

Instead of approaching this as what can they do for me tell the company what you can do for them. As in promoting their product, social media, running their logo's on your bike, trailer and wearing their swag. Once you have a sponsor stick by them. I see riders all of the time jumping to another company because they feel the product is better. It's a small industry and you do not want to burn bridges.

Apply as early as possible which is normally in September. I have received huge discounts on motor work, free suspension, gear, helmets, boots, graphics etc. for my son over the years. The sponsors would keep track of the business I referred to them and would offer my son deeper discounts. My son was a decent amateur on mini's and now is now a fast C rider. We are hanging in 1 last year and then to the B Class. So it wasn't about his speed it was how we presented ourselves and how we helped market their product and relationships.

I would normally have about 8-10hrs total invested in applying and answering e-mails. If you watch TV or play or on your phone then cut it out for a week or so. It doesn't take that much time and you will learn a lot in the process.

Last week I heard a parent talk about approaching random local companies with her sons resume. Of all things one of the business owners bought her son a brand new YZ 450F. That's not common but you never know!

If you have any questions feel free to DM me.

Good Luck!

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I would take another route at 24 yrs old, self advance to A, Race that class for prize money which isnt much
but some people goo enough make $25-500 a weekend
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Here's what I did in my sponsorship-seeking days. They were a long time ago, so the media is different, but the concepts are the same:

-Make a resume. Mine was print; yours should be on hookit or some other media platform. Use the most exciting, color-filled photo you can on the cover. If you have room or pages for additional photos, use them. Pictures of you riding, spraying champagne, holding up trophies, etc. work well. There should be one headshot as well. This resume should list all your past accomplishments, especially including any local, regional or national championships. You should list your race results from the past 12 months in full and the races you plan to attend in 2022. Your overall theme should be that of a happy, likeable, winning rider who also is fun to be around. People want to be your friend. It's not ALL about your finishes, but those should be solid.

-Indicate what you intend to offer as a value to your sponsors. They want to sell more product because of your advertising exposure. How are you going to gain them more customers or make existing customers buy more? This is where lots of riders fall short. Just because you win doesn't mean you matter that much. I worked at a motorcycle shop, so I made the implication that in addition to influencing my riding buddies and competitors, I would push my sponsors' products to paying customers, and I did just that.

-Ask for something specific when you submit a resume. Depending on your skill level, this will vary. As an Intermediate in the 1990s, I got things like 50-70% off retail, occasional free product, and pre-production or pre-release stuff. I did not make salary or bonuses (unless you can call contingency a bonus.)

-Treat your sponsors like gold when they are with you, and pleasantly after your business relationship is over. Nobody wants a sponsored rider who will trash talk them when he leaves the company. It's for this reason that I still recommend Troy Lee Designs, Thor, Renthal, Spy, and Maxima in the right context. I am very grateful to the support I got from them back in the day, even though I am not sponsored now.
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Include your basic contact information like ….Name, address and phone number. Want to to tick off a sponsor? Make them chase after you for basic information.
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Don’t hump their daughter, ask me how I know Blush
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get over 8k-10k followers on IG or subscribers to your Youtube channel
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Spudnut wrote:
Don’t hump their daughter, ask me how I know Blush
Laughing Laughing Laughing Woohoo Pinch


At least don't let them find out!
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12/21/2021 11:45am
Spudnut wrote:
Don’t hump their daughter, ask me how I know Blush
Falcon wrote:
Laughing Laughing Laughing Woohoo Pinch


At least don't let them find out!
Why not, worked for Christian Craig.... jkn
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I want to use this thread to thank my sponsors
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