VMXdN 2022 at Foxhills

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Edited Date/Time 11/26/2021 9:16am
Will try and find a link to an article but Dave King and Doc Wob are running the show next year, at non other than the famous foxhills circuit. Also read there will be new more modern classes.
Can’t wait to see 90’s and hopefully early 00’s bikes charging up and down the hills again!
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11/25/2021 11:53am
luke11 wrote:
Will try and find a link to an article but Dave King and Doc Wob are running the show next year, at non other than the...
Will try and find a link to an article but Dave King and Doc Wob are running the show next year, at non other than the famous foxhills circuit. Also read there will be new more modern classes.
Can’t wait to see 90’s and hopefully early 00’s bikes charging up and down the hills again!
Cant wait,I go every year
Where else can see you see you boyhood heroes like JMB,RJ,Herring,Cooper,Brown,Dr D,Dowd,Ramon,Bolley,Thorpe and Henry to name just a few ride,even if only for fun at times.
Even better you can just chat to all of them in a relaxed atmosphere at the historic Farleigh,add in Foxhill this year and its going to be epic.
Look forward to see which big names are signing up
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11/25/2021 12:15pm
Well things just got interesting.

2 weeks before Farleigh's usual date, a 4 day £1000 weekend x 2.

There is a need, for sure, more riders than can ever get in to Farleigh, and more people building bikes..

Maybe will let Farleigh go back to running the older stuff, like pre 83 125, and 4 Banger Twinshocks. and Evo's

Maybe will need an Evo overlap, to make it viable, i dont think there are enough post 89 guys out there to run a 500 rider meeting.

I'd rather ride Farliegh, its raceable, safe and fun, the idea of throwing 30 year old bikes round Foxhills , especially with period correct riders on them doesnt fill me with glee.

I guess i need to start buying new wheels.

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11/25/2021 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2021 12:57pm
philG wrote:
Well things just got interesting. 2 weeks before Farleigh's usual date, a 4 day £1000 weekend x 2. There is a need, for sure, more riders...
Well things just got interesting.

2 weeks before Farleigh's usual date, a 4 day £1000 weekend x 2.

There is a need, for sure, more riders than can ever get in to Farleigh, and more people building bikes..

Maybe will let Farleigh go back to running the older stuff, like pre 83 125, and 4 Banger Twinshocks. and Evo's

Maybe will need an Evo overlap, to make it viable, i dont think there are enough post 89 guys out there to run a 500 rider meeting.

I'd rather ride Farliegh, its raceable, safe and fun, the idea of throwing 30 year old bikes round Foxhills , especially with period correct riders on them doesnt fill me with glee.

I guess i need to start buying new wheels.

Might be onto something there, farleigh for the old boys and their twin shocks. Foxhill for not so old of boys and their modern classics!
I’m proper happy, my earliest Mx memory is mxdn 98 as a 7 year old so foxhills has a special place in my heart.
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11/25/2021 1:27pm
philG wrote:
Well things just got interesting. 2 weeks before Farleigh's usual date, a 4 day £1000 weekend x 2. There is a need, for sure, more riders...
Well things just got interesting.

2 weeks before Farleigh's usual date, a 4 day £1000 weekend x 2.

There is a need, for sure, more riders than can ever get in to Farleigh, and more people building bikes..

Maybe will let Farleigh go back to running the older stuff, like pre 83 125, and 4 Banger Twinshocks. and Evo's

Maybe will need an Evo overlap, to make it viable, i dont think there are enough post 89 guys out there to run a 500 rider meeting.

I'd rather ride Farliegh, its raceable, safe and fun, the idea of throwing 30 year old bikes round Foxhills , especially with period correct riders on them doesnt fill me with glee.

I guess i need to start buying new wheels.

Something makes me think that the incumbent promoter at Farleigh won’t take this situation well.

So, prepare for some politics I’d say.
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11/25/2021 2:33pm
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Something makes me think that the incumbent promoter at Farleigh won’t take this situation well.

So, prepare for some politics I’d say.
Well yes, he does seem to have the Merdas Touch doesnt he.

I saw that the people doing Foxhill's are the Langrish Club, and honestly, i would jump at the chance to race Langrish, very few chances to back in the day and its a classic venue.

I have commentated on loads of meetings at Foxhills, i remember it as a great venue for GP's and went to all of them and the MXoN ,

I was there a few months ago and it just doesnt have the same kudos as Farleigh or Hawkstone for me , despite it giving me one of my favourite memories, of Nik Fisk getting the crowd totally silent before the gate drop of a 250GP there, as Hells Bells played over the PA... one of my best memories and the gate hadnt even dropped.

I can see more folk being happy to drag there arses round Farleigh for 4 laps, and having 1 jump a lap , than wanting to huck blind tables down the valley at Foxhills.

I guess we will see.

A bit of competition is always good for the punters.


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11/25/2021 2:34pm
philG wrote:
Well things just got interesting. 2 weeks before Farleigh's usual date, a 4 day £1000 weekend x 2. There is a need, for sure, more riders...
Well things just got interesting.

2 weeks before Farleigh's usual date, a 4 day £1000 weekend x 2.

There is a need, for sure, more riders than can ever get in to Farleigh, and more people building bikes..

Maybe will let Farleigh go back to running the older stuff, like pre 83 125, and 4 Banger Twinshocks. and Evo's

Maybe will need an Evo overlap, to make it viable, i dont think there are enough post 89 guys out there to run a 500 rider meeting.

I'd rather ride Farliegh, its raceable, safe and fun, the idea of throwing 30 year old bikes round Foxhills , especially with period correct riders on them doesnt fill me with glee.

I guess i need to start buying new wheels.

Robgvx wrote:
Something makes me think that the incumbent promoter at Farleigh won’t take this situation well.

So, prepare for some politics I’d say.
I always thought Dave King WAS the promoter at F.C.V.MX.d.N??

Who was/is?

Who was responsible for the prices going through the roof?
11/25/2021 2:35pm
Track surface was shagged last time I rode there, just seemed worn out.

I'll be there though.
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11/25/2021 2:51pm
I always thought Dave King WAS the promoter at F.C.V.MX.d.N??

Who was/is?

Who was responsible for the prices going through the roof?
He had a contract with the organising club that ran out after the last event, is what i was told, more more than one person.

And when asked about a date for the 2022 event, he said it was nothing to do with him.


People will vote with their money, as is usually the case.

Whether the new event is ACU sanctioned or not will be the biggest indicator as to how things are going.
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11/25/2021 3:46pm
I always thought Dave King WAS the promoter at F.C.V.MX.d.N??

Who was/is?

Who was responsible for the prices going through the roof?
This may not be correct but I heard that Brian Higgins and ACU Events muscled in and tied up the track a few years ago, relegating Dave to the role of figurehead and US rider negotiator.

Tied in with the sudden switch of focus to sucking as much money as possible from the participants.

I believe that Dave has rights to the VMXdN name, as he used it first. But that didn’t stop the ACU from retrospectively trying to trademark it after the fact,
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11/25/2021 4:09pm
I always thought Dave King WAS the promoter at F.C.V.MX.d.N??

Who was/is?

Who was responsible for the prices going through the roof?
Robgvx wrote:
This may not be correct but I heard that Brian Higgins and ACU Events muscled in and tied up the track a few years ago, relegating...
This may not be correct but I heard that Brian Higgins and ACU Events muscled in and tied up the track a few years ago, relegating Dave to the role of figurehead and US rider negotiator.

Tied in with the sudden switch of focus to sucking as much money as possible from the participants.

I believe that Dave has rights to the VMXdN name, as he used it first. But that didn’t stop the ACU from retrospectively trying to trademark it after the fact,
Having just watched the DirtHub podcast with Jeffro Wobs and Dave King, seems like its got the potential to be decent.

With no age limits, and enough bikes to run 2 riders in 2 classes , i am in.
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11/25/2021 10:20pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2021 10:21pm
Robgvx wrote:
Something makes me think that the incumbent promoter at Farleigh won’t take this situation well.

So, prepare for some politics I’d say.
I fear it could get nasty, which would be a terrible thing.

Peoples points about the ACU, seem somewhat typical, and, I daresay, valid. At times - well, more often than not - I see 'controllers' of the sport, just (well, more than) a bit disappointing. The people at the 'lower' levels are usually, the salt of the earth, working their arses off for We participants. Things often sour the higher things get.

Farleigh is something I hope to perhaps participate in, one day. It would suite my old , battered body.

Foxhills?- well, I doubt it, but, that's My problem.

Hawkstone, now that really would appeal to me - even knowing it is far, far more brutal than Farleigh's VMXdN track. Hey, someone has to come last, and, to get to ride at that hallowed place, I'd be more than happy to be that bloke, way off the back......
11/26/2021 1:18am
With Dave King/Wobs working together, all the top named guys will be at the Foxhill race and will no doubt be an epic weekend. I guess there is nothing stopping the ACU continuing with a new name, but it won't be the VMXdN (which Dave owns the name for) - and it won't be the meeting it once was. Saying that, it already wasn't, based on last year - everything Higgins touches turns to shit.

I'm in - bring on 25th August!


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11/26/2021 2:39am
As a casual observer, it's interesting to see how the VMXdN has developed over the years.

Some will remember a heated debate on another [long defunct] forum about the origins of the idea for a VMX event at Farleigh Castle and who first thought of organizing it.

What can't be denied is Dave's passion. I wish him and Wobs well for Foxhill.

(And if anyone wants a fully restored 1991 CR125 for the super-evo class, I've got one for sale.)
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11/26/2021 5:19am
So it will be all the same classes even the early vintage bikes ? Doesn't seem like a good track for that .
11/26/2021 5:44am
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So it will be all the same classes even the early vintage bikes ? Doesn't seem like a good track for that .
Absolutely not. The original post (linked above) explains that the classes will be restructured - aimed more towards the 90s scene, and classes for 99 to 07 ish too. I think it will still have the Evo classes (up to 89), but doubt we will see twinshocks. Article also explains track will be redone to cater for all years of bike in attendance.

Also, it was only a matter of time but i think the 99-07 class is a great idea. Dave King explained last night that when the twinshock scene kicked off it was 1991, and they were only c.10 years old. Now the 07 (last of the Jap 2 strokes) are already 14 years old. It brings a new lease of life to a currently defunct era of machine, although prices will soon begin rising for them - as with everything!
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With Dave King/Wobs working together, all the top named guys will be at the Foxhill race and will no doubt be an epic weekend. I guess...
With Dave King/Wobs working together, all the top named guys will be at the Foxhill race and will no doubt be an epic weekend. I guess there is nothing stopping the ACU continuing with a new name, but it won't be the VMXdN (which Dave owns the name for) - and it won't be the meeting it once was. Saying that, it already wasn't, based on last year - everything Higgins touches turns to shit.

I'm in - bring on 25th August!


Like is said, he has the Merdas Touch
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11/26/2021 6:44am
ATKpilot99 wrote:
So it will be all the same classes even the early vintage bikes ? Doesn't seem like a good track for that .
Absolutely not. The original post (linked above) explains that the classes will be restructured - aimed more towards the 90s scene, and classes for 99 to...
Absolutely not. The original post (linked above) explains that the classes will be restructured - aimed more towards the 90s scene, and classes for 99 to 07 ish too. I think it will still have the Evo classes (up to 89), but doubt we will see twinshocks. Article also explains track will be redone to cater for all years of bike in attendance.

Also, it was only a matter of time but i think the 99-07 class is a great idea. Dave King explained last night that when the twinshock scene kicked off it was 1991, and they were only c.10 years old. Now the 07 (last of the Jap 2 strokes) are already 14 years old. It brings a new lease of life to a currently defunct era of machine, although prices will soon begin rising for them - as with everything!
Ok thanks . I didn't read the article at first . Should be interesting .
11/26/2021 7:25am
philG wrote:
Like is said, he has the Merdas Touch
I just had to google that - seems I just went for the long form version of your statement haha
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I just had to google that - seems I just went for the long form version of your statement haha
That pic made my day, Nik Fisk was awesome, i spent a GP weekend on the roof of the comms box spotting for him at the far end of the valley.. you could see everything. Sadly missed .
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Absolutely not. The original post (linked above) explains that the classes will be restructured - aimed more towards the 90s scene, and classes for 99 to...
Absolutely not. The original post (linked above) explains that the classes will be restructured - aimed more towards the 90s scene, and classes for 99 to 07 ish too. I think it will still have the Evo classes (up to 89), but doubt we will see twinshocks. Article also explains track will be redone to cater for all years of bike in attendance.

Also, it was only a matter of time but i think the 99-07 class is a great idea. Dave King explained last night that when the twinshock scene kicked off it was 1991, and they were only c.10 years old. Now the 07 (last of the Jap 2 strokes) are already 14 years old. It brings a new lease of life to a currently defunct era of machine, although prices will soon begin rising for them - as with everything!
Cant seem to get that link working for me, if that 99-07 class is open my -06 cr250 is getting the gold treatment this winter and i may very well hop on a boat

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