Made it to local A class or better questions

yz133rider
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How often were you riding? Anyone made it to that level with 1x a week at most riding wise?

Am working hard on improving and ultimately my goal is to be local A class and Atleast competitive there. So mid pack would be the goal.

Curious who’s made it that far how often you were riding etc.
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11/9/2021 3:51pm
I'd say a lot of it depends on how ready you think you are. Are you faster than the local A guys now, or at least competitive with lap times? I rode the least amount by the time I went local A because of work and money after my dad passed away. Going A for me was a supplemental income situation really, and it worked. I rode ALOT before my dad passed away when I raced for Honda, 2-5 times a week anywhere we could.

When I went A, I rode once a week and on race weekends I didn't ride at all until the actual race. Was lucky the Vegas pro scene was small, but some of the guys were ex SX and MX dudes too. I also had 2 big brothers who were ok on dirtbikes and taught me how to go fast when I was young, so that helped.

Really comes down to how ready YOU think you are. I just said fuck it at a local race one day and never looked back. Won the first one I signed up for and kept making money, albeit not a lot most weekends.
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11/9/2021 5:30pm
With all the training facilities across the country, all the classes have gotten faster and riders are more fit.

Back in the 80's when I was a pro privateer racing local stuff and the nationals or SX when they came through Texas, I would try to ride 2-3 times a week and race on the weekends. I was also a student with a job or working full time when I wasn't going to school. Sometimes I could only get 1 ride a week in, but if I rode 2 or 3 times the previous week I would be OK.

If I skipped a week or two because of weather or other reasons, I tried to keep my cardio going, mainly with running. If I was doing it now, I would definitely be training on a mountain bike if I couldn't get to the track.
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11/9/2021 5:47pm
I couldn't race enough to point out of B, I moved myself up, my speed increased and skills improved, worked out good.
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CHaynes
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11/10/2021 4:12am
Many years ago (like mid 2000's) I only rode once a week, but raced almost every weekend. Ended up pointing out of B into A class at the end of the year. I wish I kept the letter from the AMA when they sent it because it surprised me! I won a few B races, but wasn't anything special in my opinion. I also happened to run out of $ and motivation shortly before I received that letter so I actually never raced an A class race. So I guess the answer is to just keep on racing!
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11/10/2021 4:23am
3x/week but it is about quality, not quantity. I have better form these days and ride maybe 1-2x/month. I don’t hang it out the ragged edge anymore though. With time come comes wisdom.
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Rode a ton while working up to that point, couple days during the week and raced or rode every weekend. Once I got there life kinda necessitated me backing it down and I’d only get out on the weekend if I was lucky, sometimes it was every couple.

Ride with faster guys, take classes from someone reputable if possible, make sure you’re in shape. But really ride as much as you can.
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yz133rider
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I’m back to mid pack b now - but making it to a is my goal. I think I need to rearrange things in my life to be able to ride 2-3x a week even if it’s only under an hour of corner drills and such.

I can only fit 1x a week in as it is now and I’ve been steadily improving - but sometimes feels like a mountain to move to get where the FAST guys are.

Keep chipping away!
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11/10/2021 1:10pm
A lot of things need to be considered. Your age for one. Most fast guys have been fast since their beginnings. It is something in them that is God-given. You can't learn that speed with just practice. There is the mountain you are talking about. My riding partner is that way. Very good A rider. I have been chasing him for 15 years and on my best day I can't stay with him on his worst. Everyone needs to honestly evaluate their own abilities. Not everyone is cut out to be an A rider. And there is nothing wrong with that. Once you are an A rider there is no going back. That has cause a lot of guys to quit because of that pressure or injuries cause by racing at that speed. Have goals but enjoy being a B rider. Look at it this way. There are much more older B & C riders than there are A. Think about it.
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I took ten years off the bike, got a bike in February. Put 70 hours on it and I’m back racing 450A and 25 plus. I really worked on my form and I’m riding better than ever. It’s not like I’m chasing a pro card, I just like racing every once in a while and being competitive.
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riding 300 times over ten years is better for your skills, than riding 300 times in a year. Ride a mountain bike weekly too. Seat time is obviously the best thing for you, but there's an obvious time component as well. Speed is not about riding in the blur zone more often. It's about carrying speed in the corners, not making mistakes, and being athletic enough to hold a good body position for a long period of time.
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11/10/2021 6:39pm
From the topic question, I have to say you really can't compare the time frame it takes to people that did it in the 2 stroke days. An example from personal experience is a rider I helped out a few years ago. He had never ridden a bike until he was 18 and he got himself a 250f and wanted to go riding. We got him riding good and having fun. Now he worked hard, he really did but in 2 years time he was entering b class district races. That very likely would never have happened back in the 2 stroke days.
I realize how negative this post sounds and I don't mean it that way. It is just a obvious to me that the 4 stroke has shortened the learning curve and made it easier to go fast.
But I can't really answer your question about how many days a week to ride. I got there when I was a teenager and I rode all the time, damn near everyday from the time I was 5 and went to big bikes from the 80 expert class. If it is your goal then reach it. Put the time in, have fun and don't worry about how long it takes.
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11/11/2021 5:03am
Not specific to MX, but I turned and 'raced' Pro in offroad in 2018/2019 (no races in 2020/2021).

I was riding about 300hrs a year, pretty much every other day for a couple hours. To sustain that speed I believe I would have to ride between 150-200hrs a year...
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11/11/2021 5:10am Edited Date/Time 11/11/2021 10:51am
Made it to that (A) level in the off-road/hard enduro scene. Been on a dirt bike for 4 seasons (this is the end of my 4th). I'm not sure I could be a whole lot faster with my risk tolerance beyond where I'm at no matter how much I ride. I can win a 30+ A event. Contender open A.

I do come from a competitive mtn bike background and have good fitness. The latter is the easiest (relatively) to control and always comes into play when I'm around faster guys.

My $0.02 is quantity of riding matters, but so does being around fast dudes. If you can routinely ride with people at the level you want to be at, you'll get closeish.

Total hours on a dirt bike ~300
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From the topic question, I have to say you really can't compare the time frame it takes to people that did it in the 2 stroke...
From the topic question, I have to say you really can't compare the time frame it takes to people that did it in the 2 stroke days. An example from personal experience is a rider I helped out a few years ago. He had never ridden a bike until he was 18 and he got himself a 250f and wanted to go riding. We got him riding good and having fun. Now he worked hard, he really did but in 2 years time he was entering b class district races. That very likely would never have happened back in the 2 stroke days.
I realize how negative this post sounds and I don't mean it that way. It is just a obvious to me that the 4 stroke has shortened the learning curve and made it easier to go fast.
But I can't really answer your question about how many days a week to ride. I got there when I was a teenager and I rode all the time, damn near everyday from the time I was 5 and went to big bikes from the 80 expert class. If it is your goal then reach it. Put the time in, have fun and don't worry about how long it takes.
I agree 4 strokes are easier to ride/go fast on but I think you are off a little. Some people just pick it up/are more natural than others. I haven't been around as long as some in here, but been racing since '89 and there were always people that went from back of C to B and even A in 2 years. There are also many that put more effort and time than those in the A class and still were C level riders for many years if not forever. The time you put in makes a difference but talent overcomes all.
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11/11/2021 5:38am
I started riding at 13, was an average B rider by age 18. I rode 4-5 times a week, and I would put in three 30 minute motos a day with some sprints. I trained with Ryan Hughes, had a few riding coaches. Looking back, I should have focused more on technique than fitness. I do think that nothing really replaces seat time, though, and I rode a ton. Biggest difference was moving from northern to Southern California and always riding with fast people. I rode with people like Kevin Rookstool, Josh Hill, and some other fast guys. This really made a difference.
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JWACK
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11/11/2021 11:17am
The obvious answer is to ride that super bad ass CR250r you have and be cooler than everybody at the track anyway!
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yz133rider
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11/11/2021 12:07pm
JWACK wrote:
The obvious answer is to ride that super bad ass CR250r you have and be cooler than everybody at the track anyway!
🤣🤣 Thats one angle! I wouldn’t want to let that thing get roosted or tboned in the first corner lol!!
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11/11/2021 1:07pm
if you just race enough to collect points you can become an A rider

if you can qualify at lorettas , id say that makes you fast.
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RPM68
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11/11/2021 1:23pm
Just do what most clowns in Texas do, sign up for A, get smoked first moto, don't race the 2nd. Then start to charge local riding lessons as a "Local Pro."
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11/11/2021 1:35pm
RPM68 wrote:
Just do what most clowns in Texas do, sign up for A, get smoked first moto, don't race the 2nd. Then start to charge local riding...
Just do what most clowns in Texas do, sign up for A, get smoked first moto, don't race the 2nd. Then start to charge local riding lessons as a "Local Pro."
Lmao, I always laugh when I see the "Local Pros" who have raced, at most, 5 A class races in their lives and never accomplished anything meaningful charging $250 a day for "riding classes".

Regarding the topic, I would honestly say don't rush in advancing out of the B class. I pointed out of B and was forced into racing A and tbh its just not as fun. B class is a nice sweet spot to where you get enough guys signing up at local races to make it fun and usually there is a good mix of fast guys and slower guys to spread the pack out. A class usually has 3-6 guys tops at a local race and usually 3 of them are fast as fuck or pro level. For me it really kind of took the fun out of local racing. Sucks going to the gate w/ 5 dudes knowing you are going to have to go balls out just to try to keep up.
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11/11/2021 6:10pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2021 6:12pm
RPM68 wrote:
Just do what most clowns in Texas do, sign up for A, get smoked first moto, don't race the 2nd. Then start to charge local riding...
Just do what most clowns in Texas do, sign up for A, get smoked first moto, don't race the 2nd. Then start to charge local riding lessons as a "Local Pro."
Lmao, I always laugh when I see the "Local Pros" who have raced, at most, 5 A class races in their lives and never accomplished anything...
Lmao, I always laugh when I see the "Local Pros" who have raced, at most, 5 A class races in their lives and never accomplished anything meaningful charging $250 a day for "riding classes".

Regarding the topic, I would honestly say don't rush in advancing out of the B class. I pointed out of B and was forced into racing A and tbh its just not as fun. B class is a nice sweet spot to where you get enough guys signing up at local races to make it fun and usually there is a good mix of fast guys and slower guys to spread the pack out. A class usually has 3-6 guys tops at a local race and usually 3 of them are fast as fuck or pro level. For me it really kind of took the fun out of local racing. Sucks going to the gate w/ 5 dudes knowing you are going to have to go balls out just to try to keep up.
Quoted for truth.

A class can be super variable in speed depending on region as well. I race pro class off road locally, and honestly I get destroyed when I leave my region and race bigger races. Most of the guys in my local pro class, including myself, are decent A riders anywhere else.

Regarding your original question, I rode from age 12-18 and made local A, took 10 years off for school, and now ride 2-3x a week and have for the last 5 years. Average 100-150 hours a year on a bike.
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