Is this really a thing??? (mandatory COVID vax for pro racers)

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Robgvx wrote:
If I were going for a championship I would have had the vaccine months ago. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to lose a...
If I were going for a championship I would have had the vaccine months ago. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to lose a championship by being forced to miss one of the last rounds with Covid.
No testing in outdoors & you can still get the virus even if you are vaccinated did you miss that?
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I think one great step in preventing deaths (covid and others) is to mandate folks (70% of you all) lose some f-ing weight…Tongue

You should call up Newmann's family and have that discussion with them.......

Be sure and stick your tongue out after telling them that.........
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Jet fuel can't melt steel beams...

Shit wrong thread
If the earth is round, why don't we slide off?
Shit, wrong thread. 😆
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There are effective treatments. No EUA for a shot would have been given if these treatments were recognized rather than suppressed. The suppression of these treatments is nothing less than criminal and a crime against humanity. Even if, maybe especially if, you've gotten the shots you should familiarize yourself with these options in case you or a loved one contracts develops covid 19:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
https://www.onedaymd.com/2021/04/dr-george-fareed-and-dr-brian-tyson.ht…
https://faculty.utrgv.edu/eleftherios.gkioulekas/zelenko/ZelenkoProtoco…
I'm also seeing more news that monoclonal antibodies are effective. All the doctors I follow preach early treatment as the key.

The trials for the covid shots are on going. They are not as efficacious or safe as they are claimed to be:
3401 trial participants with covid like symptoms were not tested for covid. They were simply excluded. The 95% efficacy claim is complete bull.
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95…

Studies are showing that the covid shots are even less effective against new variants and do not prevent hospitalization.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospit…

Natural immunity provides long lasting protection:
https://unherd.com/thepost/bombshell-study-finds-natural-immunity-super…
1918 Flu survivors still had immunity after 90 years:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2008/08/researchers-find-lo…
SARS COV 1 survivors still had immunity after 17 years:
https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/07/28/immune-t-cells-may-offer-lasti…

My wife is a doctor working in an ER through this whole pandemic. She'll be out of the ER in about a month due to the mandates. She has no intention of getting the shot nor do I. I hope those of you that think the shot is safe and effective will trust in that rather than support politicians who want to force it on me and my family.
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I think everyone can agree on the above. Except we could have completely different opinions and think we’re right.

The only thing is…50% are wrong.
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9/2/2021 8:31pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 8:35pm
GuyB wrote:
I think everyone can agree on the above. Except we could have completely different opinions and think we’re right.

The only thing is…50% are wrong.
That's what someone says when they prefer to bury their head in the sand. None of this is going to go away (even if you get your shot and then your booster...) and we're all (and our children) going to have to live with the results.
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Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your...
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it

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GuyB wrote:
I think everyone can agree on the above. Except we could have completely different opinions and think we’re right.

The only thing is…50% are wrong.
There is no right or wrong.
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The vaccine helps, people who are vaccinated can still get Covid but the symptoms or experience is not as bad as those who are unvaccinated.
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buenavides wrote:
The vaccine helps, people who are vaccinated can still get Covid but the symptoms or experience is not as bad as those who are unvaccinated.
Re my virologist daughter:

“Saying that ‘vaccinated people can still get covid’ is rather misleading. They aren’t 100% safe but the chances of getting Covid are vastly reduced. And if a vaccinated person is unlucky enough to catch it they are likely to have mild, or no symptoms and are very unlikely to be hospitalised or die.

Just like seat belts can’t guarantee you won’t be killed in a car crash, your chances of survival are greatly improved if you wear one.”
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I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me...
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me that are vaccinated. The Pfizer vaccines I received last May are now FDA Approved. No different than taking an FDA approved prescription medicine from your doctor, which I know 100% of everyone on here has in there lifetime.
I choose to work 3rd shift because there is about 80% less people in the plant while I'm at work.
On my shift, there are only 10 of us in my department (including myself), and in a general proximity to me. I am the only one who chose to get vaccinated. Since August 1st, 3 of the of my coworkers have contracted Covid. One of my coworkers was hospitalized 9 days and died of Covid on August 22nd. He was 60 years old, with 4 grandchildren, a wonderful wife, (who also got Covid but survived) and 2 adult children. He was otherwise healthy, and had no underlying conditions. I have another coworker on my shift who has been hospitalized in ICU since August 14th, and is on a ventilator. His prognosis is day to day currently.
The 3rd was very sick, but is recovering and should be back to work after the Labor Day holiday.
I also lost a 46 year old cousin to Covid less than 3 months ago. He was a very healthy strong man.
This all has affected me greatly.
I will NEVER understand the bullshit politics that have influenced so many and the other unjustified reasons for remaining unvaccinated.
A few years ago, folks would say they couldn't do a 6th graders math, yet today they believe they're smarter than scientists, and doctors??
Those who won't get the FDA approved vaccine, are basically ruining the party for the rest of us.
While its mostly now killing voters on one side than the other, its still a human life.
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It is NOT FDA approved !
Pfizer was FDA approved 3 weeks ago you DUMBASS
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Pfizer was FDA approved 3 weeks ago you DUMBASS
But maybe not in the land of Q.
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9/7/2021 6:14pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2021 6:16pm
kawasa84 wrote:
Pfizer was FDA approved 3 weeks ago you DUMBASS
Actually it’s not. You seem awfully sure of something you clearly don’t know anything about. The EUA was extended for the Pfizer gene therapy with safety trials concluding in 2023 and 2026 respectively. The “approval” was for biontech, Pfizer’s German partner's version that is “unavailable” in the US. So in the meantime they are further deceiving the public to think it’s approved, a direct violation of the Nuremberg code btw. They claim they are identical but that doesn’t change the fact they are skirting the little liability they do have by hiding behind the illegal Eua that would be invalid if they didn’t suppress the 40+ peer reviewed studies showing the efficacy of the different treatment protocols that have been shown to work.
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kawasa84 wrote:
Pfizer was FDA approved 3 weeks ago you DUMBASS
wydopen wrote:
Actually it’s not. You seem awfully sure of something you clearly don’t know anything about. The EUA was extended for the Pfizer gene therapy with safety...
Actually it’s not. You seem awfully sure of something you clearly don’t know anything about. The EUA was extended for the Pfizer gene therapy with safety trials concluding in 2023 and 2026 respectively. The “approval” was for biontech, Pfizer’s German partner's version that is “unavailable” in the US. So in the meantime they are further deceiving the public to think it’s approved, a direct violation of the Nuremberg code btw. They claim they are identical but that doesn’t change the fact they are skirting the little liability they do have by hiding behind the illegal Eua that would be invalid if they didn’t suppress the 40+ peer reviewed studies showing the efficacy of the different treatment protocols that have been shown to work.
Ok conspiracy theorist.
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Robgvx wrote:
If I were going for a championship I would have had the vaccine months ago. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to lose a...
If I were going for a championship I would have had the vaccine months ago. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to lose a championship by being forced to miss one of the last rounds with Covid.
wrc777 wrote:
The vaccine won’t prevent you from getting it and testing positive. They have seen the viral load for a vaccinated person has to get higher than...
The vaccine won’t prevent you from getting it and testing positive. They have seen the viral load for a vaccinated person has to get higher than unvaxxed before the vaccinated show symptoms. That may in part explain the rapid spread we are seeing.

Also the shot identifies the spike protein which rapidly mutates. Natural immunity targets the N protein which does not rapidly mutate. So natural immunity will protect against a much larger group of variants (possibly all). Natural immunity also lasts significantly longer. They are saying boosters are needed every 5 months based on antibody titers of vaccinated persons.
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dkurtd wrote:
Ok conspiracy theorist.
Intelligent rebuttal. They are two legally distinct products and nobody in the US has received the FDA approved version. And since all the ingredients aren't disclosed I guess you can trust a company that’s been convicted of multiple felonies and paid the largest settlement for fraud in the history of the United States.

https://heavy.com/news/comirnaty-vs-pfizer-vaccine-legally-distinct/
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9/8/2021 9:17am Edited Date/Time 9/8/2021 9:21am
Robgvx wrote:
Your point is?
That they are admitted eugenicists and have a history of deceptive practices. Not to mention what she said about natural immunity is the complete opposite of what the latest studies show
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Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about...
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about companies and organizations. Should we pass regulations that deny them the freedom to set their own health and safety requirements?

And should the US drop all vaccine requirements for immigrants?
What vaccine requirement for immagrants?
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toroP wrote:
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about...
Wait a minute. Folks are talking about tyranny and this not being a free country, but this is not the government requiring vaccine. We’re talking about companies and organizations. Should we pass regulations that deny them the freedom to set their own health and safety requirements?

And should the US drop all vaccine requirements for immigrants?
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What vaccine requirement for immagrants?

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Biden Voters are 90% vaccinated.
Trump voters are 50% vaccinated.

Regardless of political party, it should be a choice and not a mandate unless we live in a communist country. Next they will want to take (2) of my bikes to give to someone who doesn't have a bike because they aren't working as hard as I am to earn them.

Lions not sheep.
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I fkn hate politics and all the BS social/media surrounding covid. Every forum I visit these days, people just want to go back and forth. I honestly don't give a shit if your vaxxed or not. Gold jacket.... green jacket.....

Media fear mongering is real and more prominent than ever. Don't let it divide you from people/activities you love.

Turn your phone off and stop watching the news!
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