Star Racing - turning everything on its head?

WhatsStoppingU 6/24/2021 9:19pm
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kiwifan wrote:
I dont think Yamaha is doing a lot, Star is fronting with the money......Kawasaki has Monster, Honda funds their own programme so you can see why...
I dont think Yamaha is doing a lot, Star is fronting with the money......Kawasaki has Monster, Honda funds their own programme so you can see why they dont have more riders
I’d say it’s a good bet that Star is getting at least as much Monster $ as any other team. My guess is they are #1.
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Anonymous (not verified) 6/24/2021 9:29pm
6/24/2021 9:29pm Edited Date/Time 8/31/2026 9:15pm
The thing that get me is that Star Racing does not have a product to sale. They are strictly a race team as far as I can tell. That’s a shit ton of money to throw at a race team without the team itself being a marketing tool. They must be getting huge performance bonuses from sponsors to make an operation their size feasible. Either that or they are a money laundering operation of the drug cartels.
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CPR 6/25/2021 1:11am
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Ha I thought this thread would be about Star overturning the fortunes of the ‘McCarty Pig’
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Bacon_n_Egg'r 6/25/2021 11:37am
6/25/2021 11:37am
Globally the Monster partnership with Yamaha is pretty large, even greater than Kawasaki when one factors in the MotoGP effort and the MXGP effort.
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DonM 6/25/2021 11:41am
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kiwifan wrote:
it helps when they have the big financial backing they have, other teams do not...isnt it that simple?
yz133rider wrote:
You mean to tell me Honda and Kawasaki don’t have the money that star Yamaha does? I just think they are so stuck in their ways...
You mean to tell me Honda and Kawasaki don’t have the money that star Yamaha does? I just think they are so stuck in their ways they’ll never try anything outside of the usual.
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I dont think Yamaha is doing a lot, Star is fronting with the money......Kawasaki has Monster, Honda funds their own programme so you can see why...
I dont think Yamaha is doing a lot, Star is fronting with the money......Kawasaki has Monster, Honda funds their own programme so you can see why they dont have more riders
Yamaha is actually putting a lot in to Stars 450 effort…That’s why Craig has two different contracts one for the 450’s and one for the 250’s
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Mr. Afterbar 6/25/2021 11:44am
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kiwifan wrote:
I beg to differ, Red Bull gives KTM a LOT of money...that covers a lot of their race team efforts (no matter KTM/Husky/GG)... I doubt the...
I beg to differ, Red Bull gives KTM a LOT of money...that covers a lot of their race team efforts (no matter KTM/Husky/GG)... I doubt the factory needs to put in much
So you don't know, just like me? Going off what I've heard in the past.
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kiwifan 6/25/2021 2:16pm
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kiwifan wrote:
I beg to differ, Red Bull gives KTM a LOT of money...that covers a lot of their race team efforts (no matter KTM/Husky/GG)... I doubt the...
I beg to differ, Red Bull gives KTM a LOT of money...that covers a lot of their race team efforts (no matter KTM/Husky/GG)... I doubt the factory needs to put in much
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So you don't know, just like me? Going off what I've heard in the past.
Do you not read their financial statements??
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inthebadboycorner 6/26/2021 1:59pm
6/26/2021 1:59pm
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Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors. Meanwhile the other teams typically...
Next year they will have Ferrandis, Tomac, and Plessinger on 450s in supercross and add Craig to that list for outdoors.

Meanwhile the other teams typically continue with the tradition of 1 elite guy and 1 support type rider.

If something happens to the top rider on those teams the whole operation effectively goes up in smoke.

The tractor trailers, engine and suspension testing, countless crew members, test tracks, all that is for nothing because the #2 rider really isn’t all of a sudden going to be in position to carry the team.

This model is seemingly outdated and I think star is going to quickly prove that.

With the number of injuries, sicknesses, dnfs, one bad race sometimes means the whole operation is for nothing when the team only has one real top rider. Seems foolish in a sport as risky as this one is.

Will see how star does in the coming seasons, but their 250 performance shows some serious potential ahead.
kiwifan wrote:
it helps when they have the big financial backing they have, other teams do not...isnt it that simple?
And of course the more they win, the happier some sponsors are to give more money.
Sucsess usually grows sucsess.
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Chris_Buehler 6/26/2021 2:20pm
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Frank Tuesday wrote:
So they'll have 2 "elite" riders and 2 "support" riders. They're doing what other teams do, but doubling the number of riders. Which is great. More...
So they'll have 2 "elite" riders and 2 "support" riders. They're doing what other teams do, but doubling the number of riders. Which is great. More top tier bike for more riders is always great. But let's be honest. It would be surprising if two of those riders were contending for 450 titles. For all the talk about how every year has the deepest field ever, there are maybe 7 or 8 riders who are real title contenders. The next 12 will get an occasional podium and maybe a win if everything falls in their favor on the day.
The fact that there are 7-8 real title contenders are what make it the deepest field ever. You say it like that's not a lot of top tier guys. In the RC days it was just him and Stewart. Throw Reed too if we're talking sx but he was a title threat outdoors. During the era of the Ryan's it was pretty much just those too.
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Anonymous wrote:
The thing that get me is that Star Racing does not have a product to sale. They are strictly a race team as far as I...
The thing that get me is that Star Racing does not have a product to sale. They are strictly a race team as far as I can tell. That’s a shit ton of money to throw at a race team without the team itself being a marketing tool. They must be getting huge performance bonuses from sponsors to make an operation their size feasible. Either that or they are a money laundering operation of the drug cartels.
They do though, its a chain of car dealers. Although the fact that everyone doesn't know that means they aren't doing a great job of marketing it that way.
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 6/26/2021 4:30pm
6/26/2021 4:30pm
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since it can be done? “Paradise husqvarna” or what’s the Toyota dealership that’s always mentioned on the podium from Cali?
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since...
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since it can be done? “Paradise husqvarna” or what’s the Toyota dealership that’s always mentioned on the podium from Cali?
Toyota of Escondido.
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Up Wind 6/26/2021 4:37pm
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since...
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since it can be done? “Paradise husqvarna” or what’s the Toyota dealership that’s always mentioned on the podium from Cali?
I'm sure STAR does make a profit for Bobby and Brad. He also gives Moto people great deals on Chevrolets. If you need a new Chevrolet call Bobby!!!! Smile
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Up Wind 6/26/2021 4:42pm
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since...
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since it can be done? “Paradise husqvarna” or what’s the Toyota dealership that’s always mentioned on the podium from Cali?

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 6/26/2021 5:08pm
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Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since...
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since it can be done? “Paradise husqvarna” or what’s the Toyota dealership that’s always mentioned on the podium from Cali?
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/26/499600/s1200_Screenshot_20210626_163949_Chrome.jpg[/img]

That’s one hell of a warranty. Where’s the fine print?
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hbdesigns913 6/26/2021 8:05pm
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since...
Is Bobby just a fan of the sport or does this actually help sell trucks? Could other dealerships decide to start teams seeing the success since it can be done? “Paradise husqvarna” or what’s the Toyota dealership that’s always mentioned on the podium from Cali?
Up Wind wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/26/499600/s1200_Screenshot_20210626_163949_Chrome.jpg[/img]

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
That’s one hell of a warranty. Where’s the fine print?
Non transferable. No one keeps a car for that long anymore.
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Up Wind wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/06/26/499600/s1200_Screenshot_20210626_163949_Chrome.jpg[/img]

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
That’s one hell of a warranty. Where’s the fine print?
hbdesigns913 wrote:
Non transferable. No one keeps a car for that long anymore.
You don't need to keep it that long, but nice to know if you do.
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 6/27/2021 3:24pm
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
That’s one hell of a warranty. Where’s the fine print?
hbdesigns913 wrote:
Non transferable. No one keeps a car for that long anymore.
outerlimits wrote:
You don't need to keep it that long, but nice to know if you do.
You’d be surprised. A lot of the guys retiring at my work buy a new one and say it’s the last new one for them. I kinda believe it but don’t. Hahahahaha.
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