Moto crowd control has ruined the party

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Mr. Afterbar 6/24/2021 9:58am
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MX Culture wrote:
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LungButter wrote:
Then why is that liability not an issue at Off Road races from coast to coast where fans are basically allowed to roam freely? If I'm...
Then why is that liability not an issue at Off Road races from coast to coast where fans are basically allowed to roam freely?

If I'm not mistaken that is the point the OP is trying to make.
A local harescrambles series in WI won't allow anyone on course on race day after a spectator was hurt crossing the trail last year. Can't say I blame the promoter.
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ktmusa 6/24/2021 3:55pm
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Keep the booze out. If you want to drink and be an ass, stay home and do it.
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BobPA 6/24/2021 10:14pm
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ktmusa wrote:
Keep the booze out. If you want to drink and be an ass, stay home and do it.
How about if you want to have a few beers and a good time?
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bdlcks 6/25/2021 12:05pm
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Completely agree! High point looked sad no one even near the track.
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Tracktor 6/25/2021 12:14pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Washougal got sued because a bike hit a guy watering the track. Thank the insurance companies for the fencing
Not quite. Washougal got sued because Bruce likes to sue people. And he was "on" the track but I don't believe he was watering. His. Own. Damn. Fault for the most part. He knew better...........(this is the cliff notes version there is more info)....
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davistld01 6/25/2021 12:16pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Washougal got sued because a bike hit a guy watering the track. Thank the insurance companies for the fencing
Actually (and I'm not speaking to that incident, since I'm ignorant of it in particular)...you can thank the insurance companies for protecting the riders and spectators that are too freaking drunk & too stupid not to wander aimlessly across the track, in the way of oncoming riders. In my opinion...the human race has gotten dumber and more irresponsible by the day, and something has to be done to protect riders from them. It's a shame, but its probably necessary.
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ktmusa 6/25/2021 1:03pm
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ktmusa wrote:
Keep the booze out. If you want to drink and be an ass, stay home and do it.
BobPA wrote:
How about if you want to have a few beers and a good time?
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
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Johnny Depp 6/25/2021 1:15pm
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ktmusa wrote:
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
Hey Nancy!
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GabeM 6/25/2021 1:26pm
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ktmusa wrote:
Keep the booze out. If you want to drink and be an ass, stay home and do it.
BobPA wrote:
How about if you want to have a few beers and a good time?
ktmusa wrote:
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
No-one said anything about booze, they are talking about beer.
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Jaybird67k 6/25/2021 2:35pm
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ktmusa wrote:
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
Johnny Depp wrote:
Hey Nancy!
Did you see my boy Monty out at Spoaks?
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Johnny Depp 6/25/2021 2:48pm
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ktmusa wrote:
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
Johnny Depp wrote:
Hey Nancy!
Jaybird67k wrote:
Did you see my boy Monty out at Spoaks?
Yep, he was just goofing off with Clements in Moto 2. He can fly when he wants to!
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Jaybird67k 6/25/2021 7:46pm
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Johnny Depp wrote:
Hey Nancy!
Jaybird67k wrote:
Did you see my boy Monty out at Spoaks?
Johnny Depp wrote:
Yep, he was just goofing off with Clements in Moto 2. He can fly when he wants to!
That's my boy. He goes pretty good for a guy that didn't start riding until he was 44 years old.
He use to get bewildered at us in the +40 A class when we would disappear from him after the start.....lol.
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JMCR250 6/26/2021 6:31am
6/26/2021 6:31am
I see both sides of this. As a MX fan, nothing beats being right up on the fence, close to the track. We were at the RedBud national during the 2 stroke era, on the second turn, just before the ski jump. Watching 40 factory-tuned 250 two strokes roar through that turn would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. It was epic, and we loved it.

The other side is that people are dumb, careless and/or drunk at some of our events. A few years ago, a promoter would run fantastic amateur events at the Paoli, IN ski area. They were hugely attended and featured a great, natural terrain track. The last year we went, a little girl wandered across the track not knowing/understanding that a second gate drop had just launched. The pack exited the first turn and bore down on her and she/they had no place to go. It was sickening to see. She was airlifted out, and I never heard of how she fared.

Yes, the fencing that day was probably not adequate. Yes, a parent/guardian was not properly supervising the child in a potentially dangerous environment. I don't believe the event was ever held again after that year. Whether this accident had anything to do with it, I don't know, but the cost of defending a lawsuit brought by a paralyzed little girl (or the parents of a dead child), not to mention any ensuing judgment, would be enough to push many people out of the business, wholly apart from the anguish of what happened. If the promoter had insurance (don't know) the insurer might well have decided not to cover/defend any litigation due to "failure to have effective crowd control measures in place."
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GabeM 6/26/2021 7:32am
6/26/2021 7:32am
Did the crowd control ruin it? or Did the crowd ruin it?

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lostboy819 6/26/2021 10:28am
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BobPA wrote:
How about if you want to have a few beers and a good time?
ktmusa wrote:
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
GabeM wrote:
No-one said anything about booze, they are talking about beer.
Beer and booze both take you to the same place, stupidvilleCool
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GabeM 6/26/2021 10:34am
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ktmusa wrote:
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
GabeM wrote:
No-one said anything about booze, they are talking about beer.
lostboy819 wrote:
Beer and booze both take you to the same place, stupidvilleCool
In my culture drinking beer does not count as drinking.
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BobPA 6/26/2021 10:41am
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ktmusa wrote:
If you can't have a good time without the booze I pity you.
I never drink when attending a national, not sure where you got that....I am basically a Sober Sally anymore. Most of my friends like to have a couple beers and watch moto, what is wrong with that? A few bad apples give it a bad name.
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motomike137 6/26/2021 10:48am
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Once upon a time it seems like people knew how to have their fun while still respecting others and the event that they were attending. We used to have sooooooo much fun camping at the Nationals back in the day. Somewhere along the way folks just took it o far leaving the promoters no choice but to reign them in.

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