Matthes on Jlaw, Unplugged

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hey j law just show up at the races and do what you know best......


































and by that i dont mean that you should roll a car or fight or jump the gate just ride.
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6/25/2009 7:22pm
so is he really going to jail three days after steel city or not?
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Trip wrote:
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know...
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338. The guy who wrote it said it was an opinion piece. FastEddy thinks this makes Jason and those around him look bad, which is exacly what I was saying would happen. See when your write your OPINION some people take it as fact.


Some of these bloggers really need to watch what they write. Baseball blogger recently wrote something about a baseball player being on roids. Now maybe the guy is, but this blogger has no proof, other than the guy having a good year. The real baseball writers were pissed at this blogger. He got attention nationally for it, and the real reporters take a hit as well.


Oh and whe someone enjoys reading about ones career falling apart, well that says alot about that person.
Trip wrote: See when your write your OPINION some people take it as fact.

Well thats not Matthes' problem. He stated that it was an editorial(editorial:An article in a publication expressing the opinion of its editors or publishers.)
How about some responsibility by the reader to not take an editorial piece as statement of fact but opinion as it is defined?


Trip wrote:Oh and whe someone enjoys reading about ones career falling apart, well that says alot about that person.

Well I enjoyed reading the piece but not because it was about a career falling apart; because it read to me like an indirect line of communication to let J-Law know he has to be the one to pull it all together and that there can be hope.

Maybe the fact that you read it as "enjoy's reading about ones career falling apart" says more about your perspective?

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6/25/2009 8:06pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2009 8:06pm
Trip wont dont you get, you just said "This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338." Did you not read Matthes follow-up post clearly explaining he has talked with people??
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6/25/2009 8:42pm Edited Date/Time 6/26/2009 3:53pm
David Izer wrote:
Matthes from Pulpmx.com I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me...
Matthes from Pulpmx.com

I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me if I was on fire.

He’s not what you would call a big fan of me or my writings but truthfully, I don’t care. I write what I write and at different points along the way, I’ve written good things and critical things about almost everyone (even Ferry). People sometimes are mad at me but they usually come around when I write something good and life goes on. I’ve developed a thick skin over time and enjoy what I do.

But I am worried about the man we call J-Law. Seriously, I don’t think he’s well and from the outside looking in I think things are falling apart over there. If I put myself in his shoes, I can only imagine the stress and anxiety that he must be feeling. It wasn’t too long ago that he was on top of the world having won the 250 west supercross title and been on a factory Yamaha bike. The kid with the golden throttle hand was a little bit of a hooligan but if you look back throughout history, you can see that there have been great champions on the track that have stories about them off the track that made them into bench racing legends. See Noyce. G or Lechien. R for just two of many examples. The fact that he was a rabble rouser off the track seemed to only enhance his image on the track with the companies that wanted to attach themselves to that image-to that hype. By all accounts he rode a ton and just liked to practice riding his motorcycle. I’ve heard stories from teammates that he would ride in the morning at the Yamaha track, load up and, still in his gear, unload at Starwest and pound out laps. Some of the off-track stories I heard seemed unbelievable and I took them with a grain of salt because although you can fake a lot of things in this sport, you cannot fake results on the track. That is where the bullshit stops as they say and Jason was proving that the stories were just that as he racked up wins and eventually the title. We also need a character like him in the sport as there is a segment of fans that gravitate towards that outlaw image, if you need some proof, go read a message board sometime.

There’s a saying about how a candle cannot burn at both ends for too long before it is extinguished and we now can see that this is what has been happening with Jason. You could pretty much just take a look at any sporting athlete that comes from a bad home, succeeds in a sport because he’s so damm gifted, enjoys the trappings of his success a little too much, surrounds himself with some people that are just there for the good times and eventually, the fall happens and we’re reading about it in Sports Illustrated or wherever. The athlete is always remorseful, always contrite and wishes that they could do it over again. There’s story after story in sports about these types of people and I truly believe we’re about halfway to three-quarters though the Jason Lawrence story. He hasn’t hit rock bottom yet but it’s coming, of that I am certain.

There is a lot of money going on the road each week for J-Law Inc and a lot of big time sponsors that banked on Jason either repeating as 250 champion or continuing on and becoming a solid top five 450 rider. He can do it, he’s that good. They cannot be happy with the ROI on the dollars spent and sooner or later, Jason has to buckle down and show us he can ride. That’s where he can make everything go away and he can improve his fortune. By just doing what he knows how to do best- ride a motorcycle. He’s an electrifying rider to watch and hugely talented but he just can’t make the right choices and now he feels that he cannot win with the AMA, that they are watching him and out to get him. That the press is out to get him, that Yamaha is out to get him-in short, it’s the worst thing to see. A guy who just doesn’t give a shit anymore. A guy that can’t perform anymore, he’s lost sight of what he once was and what he can be. That’s a dangerous place to be for anyone, never mind a twenty-one year old that is sinking his millions into a race team.

So what would I do if I was J-Law or suggest to him if I was in his inner circle?

First of all I would just go away. I would take the hit in lost income and potential future income because the pay-off down the road could be even greater than it is now. I’ll get to why that could be in a bit. I would go get some help for my issues, the anger management courses that he has attended haven’t done much (judging by his Hangtown incidents) and I suspect there is a deeper addiction issue involved. I have no intimate knowledge obviously and this is just a guess. He needs to stop the train and get off and get some help. That will get him on the right track and will help him deal with his next problem.

Three days after Steel City, Jason will face sentencing for his felony assault charge involving a friend of his last summer and the chances of Jason going away for a little while are pretty good. He will certainly have a chance at losing everything that he has built up over the last little while but that might be what he needs to finally wake up and look in mirror. A good friend of mine is Ron Lechien, the former factory Kawasaki star who was out of the sport by age twenty-one due to drug and alcohol problems, has often told me that he had to hit rock bottom before he realized he needed to change. As long as the money and everything else was ok, then he rationalized that he was ok. Only when put away for multiple DUI’s did Ronnie realize that he had to change or stay in jail for a long time or maybe worse, kill himself or someone else.

So the time away from the sport would do Jason some good, he can reflect on the tremendous good fortune that he’s had and how he is truly blessed to be able to ride a motorcycle in the upper percentile of the population. His hanger-ons will be gone when he gets out and he’ll be a humbled man ready to be given a second chance at doing what he can do best.

Remember the part where I said his income could be even greater than before? I say this because there is nothing America likes then comebacks from the edge. As many examples of athletes taking their gift for granted that I can point to you, there are double the amount of incredible stories of people being given second chances and making the best of it. Look at Major League Baseball’s Josh Hamilton who was drafted number one overall in the amateur draft and then became a homeless crackhead. He played in the All Star game last year, he found his way back from the dark side. Jason Lawrence can come back from all of his troubles, he can do it because he has the gift. As long as you have a gift to do something better than almost anyone else in the world, people will give you chances. To rise again and become a champion, he first has to become a loser- it’s that simple.

I’m pulling for him but that doesn’t matter much, it’s whether he’s pulling for himself that does.
Trip wrote:
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know...
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338. The guy who wrote it said it was an opinion piece. FastEddy thinks this makes Jason and those around him look bad, which is exacly what I was saying would happen. See when your write your OPINION some people take it as fact.


Some of these bloggers really need to watch what they write. Baseball blogger recently wrote something about a baseball player being on roids. Now maybe the guy is, but this blogger has no proof, other than the guy having a good year. The real baseball writers were pissed at this blogger. He got attention nationally for it, and the real reporters take a hit as well.


Oh and whe someone enjoys reading about ones career falling apart, well that says alot about that person.
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David Izer wrote:
Matthes from Pulpmx.com I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me...
Matthes from Pulpmx.com

I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me if I was on fire.

He’s not what you would call a big fan of me or my writings but truthfully, I don’t care. I write what I write and at different points along the way, I’ve written good things and critical things about almost everyone (even Ferry). People sometimes are mad at me but they usually come around when I write something good and life goes on. I’ve developed a thick skin over time and enjoy what I do.

But I am worried about the man we call J-Law. Seriously, I don’t think he’s well and from the outside looking in I think things are falling apart over there. If I put myself in his shoes, I can only imagine the stress and anxiety that he must be feeling. It wasn’t too long ago that he was on top of the world having won the 250 west supercross title and been on a factory Yamaha bike. The kid with the golden throttle hand was a little bit of a hooligan but if you look back throughout history, you can see that there have been great champions on the track that have stories about them off the track that made them into bench racing legends. See Noyce. G or Lechien. R for just two of many examples. The fact that he was a rabble rouser off the track seemed to only enhance his image on the track with the companies that wanted to attach themselves to that image-to that hype. By all accounts he rode a ton and just liked to practice riding his motorcycle. I’ve heard stories from teammates that he would ride in the morning at the Yamaha track, load up and, still in his gear, unload at Starwest and pound out laps. Some of the off-track stories I heard seemed unbelievable and I took them with a grain of salt because although you can fake a lot of things in this sport, you cannot fake results on the track. That is where the bullshit stops as they say and Jason was proving that the stories were just that as he racked up wins and eventually the title. We also need a character like him in the sport as there is a segment of fans that gravitate towards that outlaw image, if you need some proof, go read a message board sometime.

There’s a saying about how a candle cannot burn at both ends for too long before it is extinguished and we now can see that this is what has been happening with Jason. You could pretty much just take a look at any sporting athlete that comes from a bad home, succeeds in a sport because he’s so damm gifted, enjoys the trappings of his success a little too much, surrounds himself with some people that are just there for the good times and eventually, the fall happens and we’re reading about it in Sports Illustrated or wherever. The athlete is always remorseful, always contrite and wishes that they could do it over again. There’s story after story in sports about these types of people and I truly believe we’re about halfway to three-quarters though the Jason Lawrence story. He hasn’t hit rock bottom yet but it’s coming, of that I am certain.

There is a lot of money going on the road each week for J-Law Inc and a lot of big time sponsors that banked on Jason either repeating as 250 champion or continuing on and becoming a solid top five 450 rider. He can do it, he’s that good. They cannot be happy with the ROI on the dollars spent and sooner or later, Jason has to buckle down and show us he can ride. That’s where he can make everything go away and he can improve his fortune. By just doing what he knows how to do best- ride a motorcycle. He’s an electrifying rider to watch and hugely talented but he just can’t make the right choices and now he feels that he cannot win with the AMA, that they are watching him and out to get him. That the press is out to get him, that Yamaha is out to get him-in short, it’s the worst thing to see. A guy who just doesn’t give a shit anymore. A guy that can’t perform anymore, he’s lost sight of what he once was and what he can be. That’s a dangerous place to be for anyone, never mind a twenty-one year old that is sinking his millions into a race team.

So what would I do if I was J-Law or suggest to him if I was in his inner circle?

First of all I would just go away. I would take the hit in lost income and potential future income because the pay-off down the road could be even greater than it is now. I’ll get to why that could be in a bit. I would go get some help for my issues, the anger management courses that he has attended haven’t done much (judging by his Hangtown incidents) and I suspect there is a deeper addiction issue involved. I have no intimate knowledge obviously and this is just a guess. He needs to stop the train and get off and get some help. That will get him on the right track and will help him deal with his next problem.

Three days after Steel City, Jason will face sentencing for his felony assault charge involving a friend of his last summer and the chances of Jason going away for a little while are pretty good. He will certainly have a chance at losing everything that he has built up over the last little while but that might be what he needs to finally wake up and look in mirror. A good friend of mine is Ron Lechien, the former factory Kawasaki star who was out of the sport by age twenty-one due to drug and alcohol problems, has often told me that he had to hit rock bottom before he realized he needed to change. As long as the money and everything else was ok, then he rationalized that he was ok. Only when put away for multiple DUI’s did Ronnie realize that he had to change or stay in jail for a long time or maybe worse, kill himself or someone else.

So the time away from the sport would do Jason some good, he can reflect on the tremendous good fortune that he’s had and how he is truly blessed to be able to ride a motorcycle in the upper percentile of the population. His hanger-ons will be gone when he gets out and he’ll be a humbled man ready to be given a second chance at doing what he can do best.

Remember the part where I said his income could be even greater than before? I say this because there is nothing America likes then comebacks from the edge. As many examples of athletes taking their gift for granted that I can point to you, there are double the amount of incredible stories of people being given second chances and making the best of it. Look at Major League Baseball’s Josh Hamilton who was drafted number one overall in the amateur draft and then became a homeless crackhead. He played in the All Star game last year, he found his way back from the dark side. Jason Lawrence can come back from all of his troubles, he can do it because he has the gift. As long as you have a gift to do something better than almost anyone else in the world, people will give you chances. To rise again and become a champion, he first has to become a loser- it’s that simple.

I’m pulling for him but that doesn’t matter much, it’s whether he’s pulling for himself that does.
Trip wrote:
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know...
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338. The guy who wrote it said it was an opinion piece. FastEddy thinks this makes Jason and those around him look bad, which is exacly what I was saying would happen. See when your write your OPINION some people take it as fact.


Some of these bloggers really need to watch what they write. Baseball blogger recently wrote something about a baseball player being on roids. Now maybe the guy is, but this blogger has no proof, other than the guy having a good year. The real baseball writers were pissed at this blogger. He got attention nationally for it, and the real reporters take a hit as well.


Oh and whe someone enjoys reading about ones career falling apart, well that says alot about that person.
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I was clicked for life by the same guy who lets crap like this go unpunished. Maybe I would get better treatment if I was an "insider" know-it-all like BobbyM.
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How can you be clicked for life and posting at the same time ?
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How can you be clicked for life and posting at the same time ?
It's a fricken miracle.
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Trip wont dont you get, you just said "This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk...
Trip wont dont you get, you just said "This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338." Did you not read Matthes follow-up post clearly explaining he has talked with people??
Talked with people? Pretty vague don't ya think, and he said it after he was called on it. Did he post on his web site that he actually talked to anyone about it, before he wrote the story. Why didn't he say he talked to someone close to the situation in the first place?Whatever, it's his deal, but some of these bloggers are outta hand.

Bloggers are not held to the same accountability as journalists, but some people take the bloggers opinions as if it was coming from a journalist.

6/25/2009 11:56pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:36am
David Izer wrote:
Matthes from Pulpmx.com I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me...
Matthes from Pulpmx.com

I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me if I was on fire.

He’s not what you would call a big fan of me or my writings but truthfully, I don’t care. I write what I write and at different points along the way, I’ve written good things and critical things about almost everyone (even Ferry). People sometimes are mad at me but they usually come around when I write something good and life goes on. I’ve developed a thick skin over time and enjoy what I do.

But I am worried about the man we call J-Law. Seriously, I don’t think he’s well and from the outside looking in I think things are falling apart over there. If I put myself in his shoes, I can only imagine the stress and anxiety that he must be feeling. It wasn’t too long ago that he was on top of the world having won the 250 west supercross title and been on a factory Yamaha bike. The kid with the golden throttle hand was a little bit of a hooligan but if you look back throughout history, you can see that there have been great champions on the track that have stories about them off the track that made them into bench racing legends. See Noyce. G or Lechien. R for just two of many examples. The fact that he was a rabble rouser off the track seemed to only enhance his image on the track with the companies that wanted to attach themselves to that image-to that hype. By all accounts he rode a ton and just liked to practice riding his motorcycle. I’ve heard stories from teammates that he would ride in the morning at the Yamaha track, load up and, still in his gear, unload at Starwest and pound out laps. Some of the off-track stories I heard seemed unbelievable and I took them with a grain of salt because although you can fake a lot of things in this sport, you cannot fake results on the track. That is where the bullshit stops as they say and Jason was proving that the stories were just that as he racked up wins and eventually the title. We also need a character like him in the sport as there is a segment of fans that gravitate towards that outlaw image, if you need some proof, go read a message board sometime.

There’s a saying about how a candle cannot burn at both ends for too long before it is extinguished and we now can see that this is what has been happening with Jason. You could pretty much just take a look at any sporting athlete that comes from a bad home, succeeds in a sport because he’s so damm gifted, enjoys the trappings of his success a little too much, surrounds himself with some people that are just there for the good times and eventually, the fall happens and we’re reading about it in Sports Illustrated or wherever. The athlete is always remorseful, always contrite and wishes that they could do it over again. There’s story after story in sports about these types of people and I truly believe we’re about halfway to three-quarters though the Jason Lawrence story. He hasn’t hit rock bottom yet but it’s coming, of that I am certain.

There is a lot of money going on the road each week for J-Law Inc and a lot of big time sponsors that banked on Jason either repeating as 250 champion or continuing on and becoming a solid top five 450 rider. He can do it, he’s that good. They cannot be happy with the ROI on the dollars spent and sooner or later, Jason has to buckle down and show us he can ride. That’s where he can make everything go away and he can improve his fortune. By just doing what he knows how to do best- ride a motorcycle. He’s an electrifying rider to watch and hugely talented but he just can’t make the right choices and now he feels that he cannot win with the AMA, that they are watching him and out to get him. That the press is out to get him, that Yamaha is out to get him-in short, it’s the worst thing to see. A guy who just doesn’t give a shit anymore. A guy that can’t perform anymore, he’s lost sight of what he once was and what he can be. That’s a dangerous place to be for anyone, never mind a twenty-one year old that is sinking his millions into a race team.

So what would I do if I was J-Law or suggest to him if I was in his inner circle?

First of all I would just go away. I would take the hit in lost income and potential future income because the pay-off down the road could be even greater than it is now. I’ll get to why that could be in a bit. I would go get some help for my issues, the anger management courses that he has attended haven’t done much (judging by his Hangtown incidents) and I suspect there is a deeper addiction issue involved. I have no intimate knowledge obviously and this is just a guess. He needs to stop the train and get off and get some help. That will get him on the right track and will help him deal with his next problem.

Three days after Steel City, Jason will face sentencing for his felony assault charge involving a friend of his last summer and the chances of Jason going away for a little while are pretty good. He will certainly have a chance at losing everything that he has built up over the last little while but that might be what he needs to finally wake up and look in mirror. A good friend of mine is Ron Lechien, the former factory Kawasaki star who was out of the sport by age twenty-one due to drug and alcohol problems, has often told me that he had to hit rock bottom before he realized he needed to change. As long as the money and everything else was ok, then he rationalized that he was ok. Only when put away for multiple DUI’s did Ronnie realize that he had to change or stay in jail for a long time or maybe worse, kill himself or someone else.

So the time away from the sport would do Jason some good, he can reflect on the tremendous good fortune that he’s had and how he is truly blessed to be able to ride a motorcycle in the upper percentile of the population. His hanger-ons will be gone when he gets out and he’ll be a humbled man ready to be given a second chance at doing what he can do best.

Remember the part where I said his income could be even greater than before? I say this because there is nothing America likes then comebacks from the edge. As many examples of athletes taking their gift for granted that I can point to you, there are double the amount of incredible stories of people being given second chances and making the best of it. Look at Major League Baseball’s Josh Hamilton who was drafted number one overall in the amateur draft and then became a homeless crackhead. He played in the All Star game last year, he found his way back from the dark side. Jason Lawrence can come back from all of his troubles, he can do it because he has the gift. As long as you have a gift to do something better than almost anyone else in the world, people will give you chances. To rise again and become a champion, he first has to become a loser- it’s that simple.

I’m pulling for him but that doesn’t matter much, it’s whether he’s pulling for himself that does.
Trip wrote:
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know...
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338. The guy who wrote it said it was an opinion piece. FastEddy thinks this makes Jason and those around him look bad, which is exacly what I was saying would happen. See when your write your OPINION some people take it as fact.


Some of these bloggers really need to watch what they write. Baseball blogger recently wrote something about a baseball player being on roids. Now maybe the guy is, but this blogger has no proof, other than the guy having a good year. The real baseball writers were pissed at this blogger. He got attention nationally for it, and the real reporters take a hit as well.


Oh and whe someone enjoys reading about ones career falling apart, well that says alot about that person.
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Jason Lawrence races at the top level............ and you and Mathes do what again?

More J Law.....less Mathes.

Mathes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant in the pits.

No one under 30 with a National point is willing to talk to him these day's.

The observations became opinions and now he's fucked in the paddock.

You think it's just Lawrence handlers?

He apologized in the first two paragraphs of his J Law story so even he knew before he wrote it.........that he himself was and is a douchebag.

Expect more puff pieces with Larry B and then further irrelevancy.
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is the kid in or out for this weekend????
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That's pretty funny. Wrong, since he's basically inside every semi at every race, but still funny. You seem really upset, yet claim he is irrelevant. Strange.
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I was clicked for life by the same guy who lets crap like this go unpunished. Maybe I would get better treatment if I was an...
I was clicked for life by the same guy who lets crap like this go unpunished. Maybe I would get better treatment if I was an "insider" know-it-all like BobbyM.
If you posted something like this, and you aren't Bobby M, you deserved to be clicked..
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Trip wont dont you get, you just said "This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk...
Trip wont dont you get, you just said "This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338." Did you not read Matthes follow-up post clearly explaining he has talked with people??
Trip wrote:
Talked with people? Pretty vague don't ya think, and he said it after he was called on it. Did he post on his web site that...
Talked with people? Pretty vague don't ya think, and he said it after he was called on it. Did he post on his web site that he actually talked to anyone about it, before he wrote the story. Why didn't he say he talked to someone close to the situation in the first place?Whatever, it's his deal, but some of these bloggers are outta hand.

Bloggers are not held to the same accountability as journalists, but some people take the bloggers opinions as if it was coming from a journalist.

You know i actully agree with you on the last part. Matthes is pretty invovled in the industry, my assumption would be, if hewrote an article on anyone, from Ryan Dungey to Jeff Stanton, or J-Law, it wouldnt be pure BS and guessing. He is there, he most likely knows whats going on.
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funny how every one of you j-law "lovers" was all hiped about him being still the most talked about rider in the net even when he was banned by the ama.............now that the shit has hit the fan, and you all know that what ever could be said can only be negative, because the litle bratt always mess up..........all you blame the fan...!!!!!!!!!!

don't you feel ridiculous to bad talk who gives publicity to what j-law does now....????
you said that all his sponsor wanted was that publicity.........you said his sponsor got more from him then from the ones racing..........
now that you know you are wrong, that the bratt is a fluke and the stupidity culture din't stick to mx.......now you turn it all around.....talk bad to all you said before....and you are wright again..........props to you....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i will just keep on laughing about it.....and folowing the real racers and their races, cuz i´m in it for the motocross....!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jason Lawrence races at the top level............ and you and Mathes do what again? More J Law.....less Mathes. Mathes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant...
Jason Lawrence races at the top level............ and you and Mathes do what again?

More J Law.....less Mathes.

Mathes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant in the pits.

No one under 30 with a National point is willing to talk to him these day's.

The observations became opinions and now he's fucked in the paddock.

You think it's just Lawrence handlers?

He apologized in the first two paragraphs of his J Law story so even he knew before he wrote it.........that he himself was and is a douchebag.

Expect more puff pieces with Larry B and then further irrelevancy.
You continually disprove your username.

IMO, Matthes' observations is great stuff...ehhh.. minus the nicknames he throws out each week.
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I was thinking that I needed a sig on the bottom of my deal and I have found the perfect one! I just corrected the spelling and grammar and I'm good to go.

Thanks knowitallnovice!
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Does Curtis Mathes still make TVs?
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6/26/2009 8:30am
Wow, that was one of the best reality checks ever posted. Not that it matters to anyone but me, but I agree with the comeback theory and I could even become a fan.
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alphado wrote:
Does Curtis Mathes still make TVs?
Does Mel Jazz still show old movies in the afternoon?
Sorry, my age is showing again...
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6/26/2009 1:39pm
Jason Lawrence races at the top level............ and you and Mathes do what again? More J Law.....less Mathes. Mathes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant...
Jason Lawrence races at the top level............ and you and Mathes do what again?

More J Law.....less Mathes.

Mathes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant in the pits.

No one under 30 with a National point is willing to talk to him these day's.

The observations became opinions and now he's fucked in the paddock.

You think it's just Lawrence handlers?

He apologized in the first two paragraphs of his J Law story so even he knew before he wrote it.........that he himself was and is a douchebag.

Expect more puff pieces with Larry B and then further irrelevancy.
Did Matthes piss in your corn flakes or does this stem more from a disdain for LB?
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breck wrote:
I've done a lot of shitty things in my life, I admit that. I've had my fair share of legal trouble, done my time(s) behind bars...
I've done a lot of shitty things in my life, I admit that. I've had my fair share of legal trouble, done my time(s) behind bars. That does not mean I shouldnt' get to do the things I love to do. Everyone is way too hard on the him. I personally am a fan of Jason. So what if he doesn't train, doesn't do all of the other things the other pros do. This isn't a cookie cutter sport. I know he is in real trouble with the law now and that can not be avoided, I hope everything works out for him in the end. If he does get some time behind bars I have one word for him.... LIFT. If anyone has a problem with him you can take it up with me bitches!
lift? donuts? Wink
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it's a shame jason ain't got a fair shake and...

it's a shame jlaw isn't getting help and...

it's a shame jason is being picked on and...

jason's parents were abducted by aliens 2 days after he was born and a small herd of muskrats raised him and...

jason can beat you any day of the week and.....

jason never cut off that dude and got his ass kicked for it at elsinore and...

jason wasn't watching porn on his dvd player on a commercial flight with children and concerned parents complaining and...

jason didn't bite no ear off and....




you guys crack my ass off...he fucked up...HE fucked up, clearly HE IS a fuckup, there's a million of em...too bad, boohoo, me oh my oh. let him do his time, repent, pay his dues or whatever the hell and then we can start to feel sorry for him or give him praise...IF he has his shit together.

how about feeling sorry or giving praise to the other million racers that deserve it and quit sounding like a goddamn bunch of bleeding heart green peacers for crying out loud over "jlaw"?

maybe if somebody would have kicked his ass a time or two and showed him some light he wouldn't be where he is today but the golden goose rarely gets its ass clocked now does it?

it takes a lot of rain and very little sunshine to keep a rainbow shining and jlaws leprechauns ain't real stupid it appears...sheesh.

goddamn people.....
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6/26/2009 3:56pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:36am
Trip wrote:
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know...
See this is what happens, people read shit and make up their own story. This guy says something makes Jason look bad, but we don't know if Matthes ever asked to talk to anyone associated with 338. The guy who wrote it said it was an opinion piece. FastEddy thinks this makes Jason and those around him look bad, which is exacly what I was saying would happen. See when your write your OPINION some people take it as fact.


Some of these bloggers really need to watch what they write. Baseball blogger recently wrote something about a baseball player being on roids. Now maybe the guy is, but this blogger has no proof, other than the guy having a good year. The real baseball writers were pissed at this blogger. He got attention nationally for it, and the real reporters take a hit as well.


Oh and whe someone enjoys reading about ones career falling apart, well that says alot about that person.
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Jason Lawrence races at the top level............ and you and Mathes do what again? More J Law.....less Mathes. Mathes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant...
Jason Lawrence races at the top level............ and you and Mathes do what again?

More J Law.....less Mathes.

Mathes......funny like 4 seasons ago and now irrelevant in the pits.

No one under 30 with a National point is willing to talk to him these day's.

The observations became opinions and now he's fucked in the paddock.

You think it's just Lawrence handlers?

He apologized in the first two paragraphs of his J Law story so even he knew before he wrote it.........that he himself was and is a douchebag.

Expect more puff pieces with Larry B and then further irrelevancy.
jlaw is just like bobbym now...we both raced at the top level.


lmao at you...not jlaw. feel sorry for
the kid but it doesn't make him not a fuckup

...jlaw and bobbym, hmmmm.LET'S PARTY!!!!!
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6/26/2009 4:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:36am
Why is it that people can blog, post and write their opinions about how a rider will perform in the upcoming year, yet get chastised for writing the same thing, only with a less attractive outcome. Did anyone jump on Matthes for writing his opinion that Stweart would be than man to beat this year in SX? When he gave his opinion that RV would be a contender, yet still need more time to be a champ in SX, did anyone have a problem?

Seems like every week, writers publish something that is mostly opinion, in regards to rider A or series B or season C. WTF is the problem with that? I can start a website and post an article that gas is going to hit $4 per gallon come December, am I predicting the future? Of course, nobody wants to see gas at $4 per gallon, but if it happens, I look like a genius and can say "I told you so." The internet, magazines and newspapers are filled with this type of stuff, what is the problem when its presented properly?

Matthes is at almost every race and in the mix, therefore, he can form an opinion that is stronger than some random person writing about moto, wouldn't you think? Would a MX magazine pay for an article with John Smith's opinion, or Matthes? Either way, its ONLY an opinion. The old saying, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, holds true here. If you have a different opinion than him, state yours and provide support to back yours up. Attacking him as a person is pointless, especially when you don't know him as a person.

People arguing an opinion really show their level of education in their rebuttals, they usually look stupid because they have no basis for the counter argument. Usually it's something irrelevant like "his grammar sucks" or "he didn't get the facts" or "he didn't interview so and so." Well no shit sherlock, he couldn't get facts because, currently, there are not many to get, or his grammar was not the topic or the article was not presented as an interview, so again, counter with something relevant. Few on here do that, its almost comedic. Keep in mind, there is not as big a challenge or risk taken when writing only facts, those assignments are more cut and dry and anyone with the facts first has the advantage.

Anyone with a different opinion on J-Law, post your opinion, support it however you wish, then take it from there, in a year, or less, we will see who's opinion was right and who's was wrong, thus making the winner a little more credible. If your are unable to have an intelligent discussion, then STFU and move on, go argue on a street corner or in your local bar, you're more likely to meet someone with the same IQ and then a fair battle will ensue, just add alcohol.
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BobbyM wrote:
it's a shame jason ain't got a fair shake and... it's a shame jlaw isn't getting help and... it's a shame jason is being picked on...
it's a shame jason ain't got a fair shake and...

it's a shame jlaw isn't getting help and...

it's a shame jason is being picked on and...

jason's parents were abducted by aliens 2 days after he was born and a small herd of muskrats raised him and...

jason can beat you any day of the week and.....

jason never cut off that dude and got his ass kicked for it at elsinore and...

jason wasn't watching porn on his dvd player on a commercial flight with children and concerned parents complaining and...

jason didn't bite no ear off and....




you guys crack my ass off...he fucked up...HE fucked up, clearly HE IS a fuckup, there's a million of em...too bad, boohoo, me oh my oh. let him do his time, repent, pay his dues or whatever the hell and then we can start to feel sorry for him or give him praise...IF he has his shit together.

how about feeling sorry or giving praise to the other million racers that deserve it and quit sounding like a goddamn bunch of bleeding heart green peacers for crying out loud over "jlaw"?

maybe if somebody would have kicked his ass a time or two and showed him some light he wouldn't be where he is today but the golden goose rarely gets its ass clocked now does it?

it takes a lot of rain and very little sunshine to keep a rainbow shining and jlaws leprechauns ain't real stupid it appears...sheesh.

goddamn people.....
JLaw still has one more championship than Mike Alessi will ever have. Go fuck yourself.
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6/26/2009 5:01pm
Someone check this Izer fellow for his limit of fish. I am sure he caught a record catch.
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Matthes from Pulpmx.com I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me...
Matthes from Pulpmx.com

I don’t know Jason Lawrence, I’ve never really spoken to him and as a matter of fact, he probably wouldn’t piss on me if I was on fire.

He’s not what you would call a big fan of me or my writings but truthfully, I don’t care. I write what I write and at different points along the way, I’ve written good things and critical things about almost everyone (even Ferry). People sometimes are mad at me but they usually come around when I write something good and life goes on. I’ve developed a thick skin over time and enjoy what I do.

But I am worried about the man we call J-Law. Seriously, I don’t think he’s well and from the outside looking in I think things are falling apart over there. If I put myself in his shoes, I can only imagine the stress and anxiety that he must be feeling. It wasn’t too long ago that he was on top of the world having won the 250 west supercross title and been on a factory Yamaha bike. The kid with the golden throttle hand was a little bit of a hooligan but if you look back throughout history, you can see that there have been great champions on the track that have stories about them off the track that made them into bench racing legends. See Noyce. G or Lechien. R for just two of many examples. The fact that he was a rabble rouser off the track seemed to only enhance his image on the track with the companies that wanted to attach themselves to that image-to that hype. By all accounts he rode a ton and just liked to practice riding his motorcycle. I’ve heard stories from teammates that he would ride in the morning at the Yamaha track, load up and, still in his gear, unload at Starwest and pound out laps. Some of the off-track stories I heard seemed unbelievable and I took them with a grain of salt because although you can fake a lot of things in this sport, you cannot fake results on the track. That is where the bullshit stops as they say and Jason was proving that the stories were just that as he racked up wins and eventually the title. We also need a character like him in the sport as there is a segment of fans that gravitate towards that outlaw image, if you need some proof, go read a message board sometime.

There’s a saying about how a candle cannot burn at both ends for too long before it is extinguished and we now can see that this is what has been happening with Jason. You could pretty much just take a look at any sporting athlete that comes from a bad home, succeeds in a sport because he’s so damm gifted, enjoys the trappings of his success a little too much, surrounds himself with some people that are just there for the good times and eventually, the fall happens and we’re reading about it in Sports Illustrated or wherever. The athlete is always remorseful, always contrite and wishes that they could do it over again. There’s story after story in sports about these types of people and I truly believe we’re about halfway to three-quarters though the Jason Lawrence story. He hasn’t hit rock bottom yet but it’s coming, of that I am certain.

There is a lot of money going on the road each week for J-Law Inc and a lot of big time sponsors that banked on Jason either repeating as 250 champion or continuing on and becoming a solid top five 450 rider. He can do it, he’s that good. They cannot be happy with the ROI on the dollars spent and sooner or later, Jason has to buckle down and show us he can ride. That’s where he can make everything go away and he can improve his fortune. By just doing what he knows how to do best- ride a motorcycle. He’s an electrifying rider to watch and hugely talented but he just can’t make the right choices and now he feels that he cannot win with the AMA, that they are watching him and out to get him. That the press is out to get him, that Yamaha is out to get him-in short, it’s the worst thing to see. A guy who just doesn’t give a shit anymore. A guy that can’t perform anymore, he’s lost sight of what he once was and what he can be. That’s a dangerous place to be for anyone, never mind a twenty-one year old that is sinking his millions into a race team.

So what would I do if I was J-Law or suggest to him if I was in his inner circle?

First of all I would just go away. I would take the hit in lost income and potential future income because the pay-off down the road could be even greater than it is now. I’ll get to why that could be in a bit. I would go get some help for my issues, the anger management courses that he has attended haven’t done much (judging by his Hangtown incidents) and I suspect there is a deeper addiction issue involved. I have no intimate knowledge obviously and this is just a guess. He needs to stop the train and get off and get some help. That will get him on the right track and will help him deal with his next problem.

Three days after Steel City, Jason will face sentencing for his felony assault charge involving a friend of his last summer and the chances of Jason going away for a little while are pretty good. He will certainly have a chance at losing everything that he has built up over the last little while but that might be what he needs to finally wake up and look in mirror. A good friend of mine is Ron Lechien, the former factory Kawasaki star who was out of the sport by age twenty-one due to drug and alcohol problems, has often told me that he had to hit rock bottom before he realized he needed to change. As long as the money and everything else was ok, then he rationalized that he was ok. Only when put away for multiple DUI’s did Ronnie realize that he had to change or stay in jail for a long time or maybe worse, kill himself or someone else.

So the time away from the sport would do Jason some good, he can reflect on the tremendous good fortune that he’s had and how he is truly blessed to be able to ride a motorcycle in the upper percentile of the population. His hanger-ons will be gone when he gets out and he’ll be a humbled man ready to be given a second chance at doing what he can do best.

Remember the part where I said his income could be even greater than before? I say this because there is nothing America likes then comebacks from the edge. As many examples of athletes taking their gift for granted that I can point to you, there are double the amount of incredible stories of people being given second chances and making the best of it. Look at Major League Baseball’s Josh Hamilton who was drafted number one overall in the amateur draft and then became a homeless crackhead. He played in the All Star game last year, he found his way back from the dark side. Jason Lawrence can come back from all of his troubles, he can do it because he has the gift. As long as you have a gift to do something better than almost anyone else in the world, people will give you chances. To rise again and become a champion, he first has to become a loser- it’s that simple.

I’m pulling for him but that doesn’t matter much, it’s whether he’s pulling for himself that does.
this is true...what isn't true is me having a 12 inch dick, only then could i fuck myself...hmmmm.

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