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So why does the customer get charged $300 to $400 in setup fees when the OEM is going to give the dealer a PDI labor credit at the national average rates? Isn’t that double dipping?
I work for John Deere and I know all of our dealer PDIs are handled this way. The dealership receives a PDI credit for each machine that is sold, but the credit is not processed until the PDI information is entered into the system because the PDI is essentially the OEMs last line of defense for quality or performance defects before the product reaches the customers hands.
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I really don’t understand why that bothers you so much.
Another factor is shear inflation. The dollar is dropping in value, everything is going up. Check your grocery store bill, or go buy some lumber....
It's not just motorcycle dealers, it's America in 2021!
Is that a sufficient enough reason for you? Or should I go back to riding Suzuki’s, convert to riding a 4 stroke for hard enduro, just stop riding enduro and go back to MX so I can purchase a formidable bike from the same dealer I’ve gone to for nearly 30 years or quit riding all together? It’s up to you. You make the call for me. I assume you’re one of the dealers who is charging more than MSRP judging by how upset you are by the fact that most of us not willing to pay more than what a bikes worth.
If any of us provided a high demand product or service, you owe it to your shareholders (and family) to maximize the value of your asset. It’s not price-gouging if demand exceeds supply across an industry with multiple competitors. And motorcycles compete against ATVs, SXS, plastic surgery, and vacations to Disneyland. It all falls under “disposable income”.
Please explain this. Because I’m trying to figure out what kind of mental gymnastics you had to jump through to get to that viewpoint.
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When I called the dealer I bought my YZ at in March, he gave me a price in 30 seconds. Then I gave him my credit card number over the phone to put a deposit down and hold it. When it came in I picked it up and was out the door in under a half hour.
Your best deals are not generally made on the phone but sitting at the desk with the cash or credit app sitting in front of you.
Phone calls are either a potential customer getting information (don't usually ask for the OTD because they have a price in mind already-the informed/knowledgeable buyer and ready to give a deposit for the right price) or some one shopping around for the OTD to shop dealers against each other(the B.S. buyer).
Cash in not king. Dealers make money from the banks with approved buyers BUT there is a certain number of payments that must be made before the bank hands over the money. So, if you are able to pay cash and have the good credit to finance, then finance and pay it off on the first invoice and the dealer more than likely will not get their kick back and you got some money off the deal anyways. MFG's financing deals with their approved lender generally don't have dealer kick backs because the interest rate or monthly payment is set based on your credit worthiness. Outside banks use a point system. EX. you qualified for a 4.0% rate but the dealer got you to go with a 5.0% not telling you, you got 4.0%, now the dealer is making 1 point for every .25% rate over the 4.0% which is 4 pts. Now, 4 pts of the amount financed, lets say $10,000 is $400 incentive to the dealer and finance man gets $80 of it.
Bike setup/assembly is paid to the dealer by the MFG when bike is sold, cost varies so I can not tell you what each MFG pays the dealer, set up fee is all profit. Shipping cost is set and can be find on the MFG website, any amount above that is profit. Registration is set by the state, any amount above that is profit. Admin fee is mostly profit, except for the 1 hour that cost them for the office clerk.
Dealers have kick backs and sometimes sales incentives (based on the number of units sold for the month) that they get from MFG. MFG rebates are mostly used to close the deal and generally counted as profit.
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