Good information from Cooksey MX Sports

McG194 wrote:

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the entirety of this thread is bagging on Cooksey and no one cares that if a...

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the entirety of this thread is bagging on Cooksey and no one cares that if a goy like AJ Catanzaro wanted to earn his living by making his videos at the outdoors he would be subject to review? I understand he doesn't race outdoors but the point is the same. We have become so comfortable with censorship that we now focus more of the person who reports on the censorship than the actual censorship.

McG194 wrote:

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the entirety of this thread is bagging on Cooksey and no one cares that if a...

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the entirety of this thread is bagging on Cooksey and no one cares that if a goy like AJ Catanzaro wanted to earn his living by making his videos at the outdoors he would be subject to review? I understand he doesn't race outdoors but the point is the same. We have become so comfortable with censorship that we now focus more of the person who reports on the censorship than the actual censorship.

DC wrote:

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from...

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from Lucas Oil Pro Motocross, we just need to get permission from NBC (who actually own the broadcast rights collectively with MAV-TV and Lucas Oil Studios) on a case-by-case basis. We also don't want something out there that shows the series and the sport in a really bad light, for instance the inflatable dolls that sometimes pop up and get passed around the podium area, or maybe the "show us your tits" sign that someone might hang on a fence, or maybe someone just really drunk in the spectator area, as we’re trying to be family entertainment as well as a respected motorsport.

This is all just common business sense, though I'm not surprised that this "hot take" is coming from someone who recently referred to our current champion Zach Osborne as a "dick" and a "scumbag of a human being" on a video and social media and now refers to MX Sports as "Hitler" because we are managing NBC’s broadcast rights and asking riders to simply cooperate with the rules and policies that are commonplace in every major sporting entity on earth—especially one such as ours where the rights are actually owned by a giant entity called NBC, which is owned by a bigger entity called Universal, which is owned by a bigger entity called Comcast…

The irony here is that MX Sports are the ones that have been going to bat for the riders (ask Troll Train or Team Fried) to free up their opportunities to use video content, which was all but forbidden just a few years ago. This is not “censorship,” it's simply asking that the riders ask for permission, use it responsibly and within some modest guidelines. These guys don’t seem to understand that, or maybe they’d just rather be loud than correct, which is not surprising...

Seriously, what good comes from repeatedly calling one of the top riders a dick and scumbag? That’s not “media.” That's badgering and insulting Zach Osborne.

DC
Racer X

crowe660 wrote:

When I used to pull a keg around the redbud track in a radio flyer, my dream was to be on TV. FML

DC wrote:

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from...

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from Lucas Oil Pro Motocross, we just need to get permission from NBC (who actually own the broadcast rights collectively with MAV-TV and Lucas Oil Studios) on a case-by-case basis. We also don't want something out there that shows the series and the sport in a really bad light, for instance the inflatable dolls that sometimes pop up and get passed around the podium area, or maybe the "show us your tits" sign that someone might hang on a fence, or maybe someone just really drunk in the spectator area, as we’re trying to be family entertainment as well as a respected motorsport.

This is all just common business sense, though I'm not surprised that this "hot take" is coming from someone who recently referred to our current champion Zach Osborne as a "dick" and a "scumbag of a human being" on a video and social media and now refers to MX Sports as "Hitler" because we are managing NBC’s broadcast rights and asking riders to simply cooperate with the rules and policies that are commonplace in every major sporting entity on earth—especially one such as ours where the rights are actually owned by a giant entity called NBC, which is owned by a bigger entity called Universal, which is owned by a bigger entity called Comcast…

The irony here is that MX Sports are the ones that have been going to bat for the riders (ask Troll Train or Team Fried) to free up their opportunities to use video content, which was all but forbidden just a few years ago. This is not “censorship,” it's simply asking that the riders ask for permission, use it responsibly and within some modest guidelines. These guys don’t seem to understand that, or maybe they’d just rather be loud than correct, which is not surprising...

Seriously, what good comes from repeatedly calling one of the top riders a dick and scumbag? That’s not “media.” That's badgering and insulting Zach Osborne.

DC
Racer X

stremme12 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast. Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all? It was...

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast.

Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all?

It was said that it costs a track $100,000 just to host the national. $1 of every ticket sale goes to MX sports. It wasn't clear whether they knew if food, alcohol, parking or merch sales partially went to MX sports.

The rider purse is 100% paid for my the track itself. All rider sign up fees go to MX sports.

They are basically saying MX sports is bleeding these tracks dry and leaving them no profit but MX sports is walking way with pockets full of cash.

It was said that any smart business man would never make these negotiations. Which is odd because these tracks keep coming back year after year except for maybe GH. I would imagine these tracks can still turn on a profit on a national weekend right?

Can you touch on any of that? Cooksey acted like he had something brewing like he was going to release this big story he just needed to verify some numbers.


If you can't elaborate on some of the subjects I get it. It's not exactly anyone's business to know. These are just statements his podcast was throwing around.

DC wrote:

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from...

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from Lucas Oil Pro Motocross, we just need to get permission from NBC (who actually own the broadcast rights collectively with MAV-TV and Lucas Oil Studios) on a case-by-case basis. We also don't want something out there that shows the series and the sport in a really bad light, for instance the inflatable dolls that sometimes pop up and get passed around the podium area, or maybe the "show us your tits" sign that someone might hang on a fence, or maybe someone just really drunk in the spectator area, as we’re trying to be family entertainment as well as a respected motorsport.

This is all just common business sense, though I'm not surprised that this "hot take" is coming from someone who recently referred to our current champion Zach Osborne as a "dick" and a "scumbag of a human being" on a video and social media and now refers to MX Sports as "Hitler" because we are managing NBC’s broadcast rights and asking riders to simply cooperate with the rules and policies that are commonplace in every major sporting entity on earth—especially one such as ours where the rights are actually owned by a giant entity called NBC, which is owned by a bigger entity called Universal, which is owned by a bigger entity called Comcast…

The irony here is that MX Sports are the ones that have been going to bat for the riders (ask Troll Train or Team Fried) to free up their opportunities to use video content, which was all but forbidden just a few years ago. This is not “censorship,” it's simply asking that the riders ask for permission, use it responsibly and within some modest guidelines. These guys don’t seem to understand that, or maybe they’d just rather be loud than correct, which is not surprising...

Seriously, what good comes from repeatedly calling one of the top riders a dick and scumbag? That’s not “media.” That's badgering and insulting Zach Osborne.

DC
Racer X

stremme12 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast. Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all? It was...

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast.

Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all?

It was said that it costs a track $100,000 just to host the national. $1 of every ticket sale goes to MX sports. It wasn't clear whether they knew if food, alcohol, parking or merch sales partially went to MX sports.

The rider purse is 100% paid for my the track itself. All rider sign up fees go to MX sports.

They are basically saying MX sports is bleeding these tracks dry and leaving them no profit but MX sports is walking way with pockets full of cash.

It was said that any smart business man would never make these negotiations. Which is odd because these tracks keep coming back year after year except for maybe GH. I would imagine these tracks can still turn on a profit on a national weekend right?

Can you touch on any of that? Cooksey acted like he had something brewing like he was going to release this big story he just needed to verify some numbers.


If you can't elaborate on some of the subjects I get it. It's not exactly anyone's business to know. These are just statements his podcast was throwing around.

DC wrote:

I believe the negotiations between the series and the tracks should be kept between them, just as a rider's contract with a factory is--it's their private...

I believe the negotiations between the series and the tracks should be kept between them, just as a rider's contract with a factory is--it's their private business, and they can reveal their own going price if they choose to.

I think the fact that almost every national track returns to the schedule year after year debunks the idea that somehow it is not profitable or a good deal to host a national. MX Sports purchased the rights to organize this series, and each of the 12 races are franchises in that series. We don't sell their tickets, we don't do their advertising, we are not involved in their concessions or camping or amateur days or merchandise or anything like that. We simply contract with each track as if they were a franchise to bring in a professional sporting event that is part of a motorsports series that is televised and includes all of the major riders and racing teams, a series for which we purchased the rights to organize and manage, which is a year-round job.

Cooksey did tell me that he would give me a chance to "refute any numbers" before he posted them but I declined to go over series finances with someone who refers to our series champion as a dick and a scumbag and now calls us Hitler because he doesn't understand how broadcasting rights actually work. He did ask me for four tickets to Pala.

DC
Racer X

DC wrote:

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from...

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from Lucas Oil Pro Motocross, we just need to get permission from NBC (who actually own the broadcast rights collectively with MAV-TV and Lucas Oil Studios) on a case-by-case basis. We also don't want something out there that shows the series and the sport in a really bad light, for instance the inflatable dolls that sometimes pop up and get passed around the podium area, or maybe the "show us your tits" sign that someone might hang on a fence, or maybe someone just really drunk in the spectator area, as we’re trying to be family entertainment as well as a respected motorsport.

This is all just common business sense, though I'm not surprised that this "hot take" is coming from someone who recently referred to our current champion Zach Osborne as a "dick" and a "scumbag of a human being" on a video and social media and now refers to MX Sports as "Hitler" because we are managing NBC’s broadcast rights and asking riders to simply cooperate with the rules and policies that are commonplace in every major sporting entity on earth—especially one such as ours where the rights are actually owned by a giant entity called NBC, which is owned by a bigger entity called Universal, which is owned by a bigger entity called Comcast…

The irony here is that MX Sports are the ones that have been going to bat for the riders (ask Troll Train or Team Fried) to free up their opportunities to use video content, which was all but forbidden just a few years ago. This is not “censorship,” it's simply asking that the riders ask for permission, use it responsibly and within some modest guidelines. These guys don’t seem to understand that, or maybe they’d just rather be loud than correct, which is not surprising...

Seriously, what good comes from repeatedly calling one of the top riders a dick and scumbag? That’s not “media.” That's badgering and insulting Zach Osborne.

DC
Racer X

ZOBITO wrote:

I don't have anything to do with the MX business, I never met Davey Coombs and probably never will, but it's always a pleasure to read...

I don't have anything to do with the MX business, I never met Davey Coombs and probably never will, but it's always a pleasure to read him. He's obviously bright, articulate and level-headed, which seem to be rare qualities in this sport.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

Not a big fan of people who try to make a platform for themselves by playing the shit card on everyone for the salacious attraction. Even...

Not a big fan of people who try to make a platform for themselves by playing the shit card on everyone for the salacious attraction. Even if they claim they’re just telling it as is. It’s not hard to discern motive and the difference between constructive criticism and tabloid bait slinging.

FreshTopEnd wrote:

Not a big fan of people who try to make a platform for themselves by playing the shit card on everyone for the salacious attraction. Even...

Not a big fan of people who try to make a platform for themselves by playing the shit card on everyone for the salacious attraction. Even if they claim they’re just telling it as is. It’s not hard to discern motive and the difference between constructive criticism and tabloid bait slinging.

MelonFan123 wrote:

well said! I have no patience for people that talk shit and throw inflammatory accusations with no facts to back it up, then hide behind the...

well said!

I have no patience for people that talk shit and throw inflammatory accusations with no facts to back it up, then hide behind the "i just tell it like it is" mantra

DC wrote:

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from...

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from Lucas Oil Pro Motocross, we just need to get permission from NBC (who actually own the broadcast rights collectively with MAV-TV and Lucas Oil Studios) on a case-by-case basis. We also don't want something out there that shows the series and the sport in a really bad light, for instance the inflatable dolls that sometimes pop up and get passed around the podium area, or maybe the "show us your tits" sign that someone might hang on a fence, or maybe someone just really drunk in the spectator area, as we’re trying to be family entertainment as well as a respected motorsport.

This is all just common business sense, though I'm not surprised that this "hot take" is coming from someone who recently referred to our current champion Zach Osborne as a "dick" and a "scumbag of a human being" on a video and social media and now refers to MX Sports as "Hitler" because we are managing NBC’s broadcast rights and asking riders to simply cooperate with the rules and policies that are commonplace in every major sporting entity on earth—especially one such as ours where the rights are actually owned by a giant entity called NBC, which is owned by a bigger entity called Universal, which is owned by a bigger entity called Comcast…

The irony here is that MX Sports are the ones that have been going to bat for the riders (ask Troll Train or Team Fried) to free up their opportunities to use video content, which was all but forbidden just a few years ago. This is not “censorship,” it's simply asking that the riders ask for permission, use it responsibly and within some modest guidelines. These guys don’t seem to understand that, or maybe they’d just rather be loud than correct, which is not surprising...

Seriously, what good comes from repeatedly calling one of the top riders a dick and scumbag? That’s not “media.” That's badgering and insulting Zach Osborne.

DC
Racer X

stremme12 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast. Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all? It was...

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast.

Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all?

It was said that it costs a track $100,000 just to host the national. $1 of every ticket sale goes to MX sports. It wasn't clear whether they knew if food, alcohol, parking or merch sales partially went to MX sports.

The rider purse is 100% paid for my the track itself. All rider sign up fees go to MX sports.

They are basically saying MX sports is bleeding these tracks dry and leaving them no profit but MX sports is walking way with pockets full of cash.

It was said that any smart business man would never make these negotiations. Which is odd because these tracks keep coming back year after year except for maybe GH. I would imagine these tracks can still turn on a profit on a national weekend right?

Can you touch on any of that? Cooksey acted like he had something brewing like he was going to release this big story he just needed to verify some numbers.


If you can't elaborate on some of the subjects I get it. It's not exactly anyone's business to know. These are just statements his podcast was throwing around.

DC wrote:

I believe the negotiations between the series and the tracks should be kept between them, just as a rider's contract with a factory is--it's their private...

I believe the negotiations between the series and the tracks should be kept between them, just as a rider's contract with a factory is--it's their private business, and they can reveal their own going price if they choose to.

I think the fact that almost every national track returns to the schedule year after year debunks the idea that somehow it is not profitable or a good deal to host a national. MX Sports purchased the rights to organize this series, and each of the 12 races are franchises in that series. We don't sell their tickets, we don't do their advertising, we are not involved in their concessions or camping or amateur days or merchandise or anything like that. We simply contract with each track as if they were a franchise to bring in a professional sporting event that is part of a motorsports series that is televised and includes all of the major riders and racing teams, a series for which we purchased the rights to organize and manage, which is a year-round job.

Cooksey did tell me that he would give me a chance to "refute any numbers" before he posted them but I declined to go over series finances with someone who refers to our series champion as a dick and a scumbag and now calls us Hitler because he doesn't understand how broadcasting rights actually work. He did ask me for four tickets to Pala.

DC
Racer X

DC wrote:

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from...

Every televised motorsports series manages their broadcast content, and we usually grant permission to riders at both the privateer and factory levels to use footage from Lucas Oil Pro Motocross, we just need to get permission from NBC (who actually own the broadcast rights collectively with MAV-TV and Lucas Oil Studios) on a case-by-case basis. We also don't want something out there that shows the series and the sport in a really bad light, for instance the inflatable dolls that sometimes pop up and get passed around the podium area, or maybe the "show us your tits" sign that someone might hang on a fence, or maybe someone just really drunk in the spectator area, as we’re trying to be family entertainment as well as a respected motorsport.

This is all just common business sense, though I'm not surprised that this "hot take" is coming from someone who recently referred to our current champion Zach Osborne as a "dick" and a "scumbag of a human being" on a video and social media and now refers to MX Sports as "Hitler" because we are managing NBC’s broadcast rights and asking riders to simply cooperate with the rules and policies that are commonplace in every major sporting entity on earth—especially one such as ours where the rights are actually owned by a giant entity called NBC, which is owned by a bigger entity called Universal, which is owned by a bigger entity called Comcast…

The irony here is that MX Sports are the ones that have been going to bat for the riders (ask Troll Train or Team Fried) to free up their opportunities to use video content, which was all but forbidden just a few years ago. This is not “censorship,” it's simply asking that the riders ask for permission, use it responsibly and within some modest guidelines. These guys don’t seem to understand that, or maybe they’d just rather be loud than correct, which is not surprising...

Seriously, what good comes from repeatedly calling one of the top riders a dick and scumbag? That’s not “media.” That's badgering and insulting Zach Osborne.

DC
Racer X

stremme12 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast. Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all? It was...

Thanks for the explanation. None of that was mentioned or explained in his podcast.

Could you elaborate on the National track contracts at all?

It was said that it costs a track $100,000 just to host the national. $1 of every ticket sale goes to MX sports. It wasn't clear whether they knew if food, alcohol, parking or merch sales partially went to MX sports.

The rider purse is 100% paid for my the track itself. All rider sign up fees go to MX sports.

They are basically saying MX sports is bleeding these tracks dry and leaving them no profit but MX sports is walking way with pockets full of cash.

It was said that any smart business man would never make these negotiations. Which is odd because these tracks keep coming back year after year except for maybe GH. I would imagine these tracks can still turn on a profit on a national weekend right?

Can you touch on any of that? Cooksey acted like he had something brewing like he was going to release this big story he just needed to verify some numbers.


If you can't elaborate on some of the subjects I get it. It's not exactly anyone's business to know. These are just statements his podcast was throwing around.

DC wrote:

I believe the negotiations between the series and the tracks should be kept between them, just as a rider's contract with a factory is--it's their private...

I believe the negotiations between the series and the tracks should be kept between them, just as a rider's contract with a factory is--it's their private business, and they can reveal their own going price if they choose to.

I think the fact that almost every national track returns to the schedule year after year debunks the idea that somehow it is not profitable or a good deal to host a national. MX Sports purchased the rights to organize this series, and each of the 12 races are franchises in that series. We don't sell their tickets, we don't do their advertising, we are not involved in their concessions or camping or amateur days or merchandise or anything like that. We simply contract with each track as if they were a franchise to bring in a professional sporting event that is part of a motorsports series that is televised and includes all of the major riders and racing teams, a series for which we purchased the rights to organize and manage, which is a year-round job.

Cooksey did tell me that he would give me a chance to "refute any numbers" before he posted them but I declined to go over series finances with someone who refers to our series champion as a dick and a scumbag and now calls us Hitler because he doesn't understand how broadcasting rights actually work. He did ask me for four tickets to Pala.

DC
Racer X