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soggy 3/16/2021 7:59pm
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Beeby wrote:
Isn’t this a MASSIVE stadium? Why do the tracks feel small
Cause the riders are so damn good and 450s are too damn fast
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aeffertz 3/16/2021 7:59pm
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Oooh a mechanic interview?!
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Beeby wrote:
Isn’t this a MASSIVE stadium? Why do the tracks feel small
canciaro wrote:
They don’t fill up the entire floor with dirt because it costs money.
Shame.
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Mavetism 3/16/2021 8:01pm
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nickm wrote:
Carlos has what, 5 championships as mechanic?
I'm really interested in what kind of a salary + bonuses a mechanic like Carlos is able to make per year.
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Crush 3/16/2021 8:01pm
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nickm wrote:
Carlos has what, 5 championships as mechanic?
3 SX and 1 national with Dungey at KTM, 1 with Coop... I think that's right?
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TXDirt 3/16/2021 8:01pm
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It doesn’t really matter how big a SX track you build. Riding these big hog 450s is like navigating a locomotive around the track.
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skup11 3/16/2021 8:02pm
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Pretty sweet to see Carlos up there. I wouldn't mind more of that being mixed in.
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KurtJ99 3/16/2021 8:03pm
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I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time to re-enter. Either way judgment will be made and we’ll get an 11 pager out of it.
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daemon616 3/16/2021 8:03pm
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Webb is scary good but then again he trains at the factory.
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tickleme20 3/16/2021 8:04pm
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TXDirt wrote:
I can appreciate Ken’s honesty.

“I just wasn’t good enough”.

That’s a level of maturity you rarely see. Props to you Ken. Big fan here!
Between the half-hearted fist bump and the neutered podium speech, I think Roczen has been advised to cool it with Webb lest he dig himself any deeper in an increasingly untenable feud
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hamncheeze 3/16/2021 8:04pm
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nickm wrote:
Carlos has what, 5 championships as mechanic?
Crush wrote:
3 SX and 1 national with Dungey at KTM, 1 with Coop... I think that's right?
2 outdoor titles, 2012 and 2015 along with the 3 SX titles with Dungey.
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Kevin852 3/16/2021 8:06pm
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KurtJ99 wrote:
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time...
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time to re-enter. Either way judgment will be made and we’ll get an 11 pager out of it.
You mean instead of gassing it and jumping a tough block? All he had to do was turn left and enter the whoops
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PRM31 3/16/2021 8:07pm
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Not a good track for racing. I really dislike ‘rhythm’ lanes where everybody does the same thing.
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RalphS 3/16/2021 8:07pm
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nickm wrote:
Carlos has what, 5 championships as mechanic?
4SX 2MX
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hamncheeze 3/16/2021 8:08pm
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I will say, apart from the first half of the race in the whoops where Coop was losing time, he was pretty much perfect everywhere else. Whatever issues they had with the air shock and the bike are a distant memory. Watching his bike vs Tomac's when they enter the ruts, it's so different. Coop's bike just pops in and is steady whereas Tomac's bike pops in but doesn't settle nearly as much. I think we are seeing that steel chassis effect when it's hard and slippy like these Arlington tracks.
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DonM 3/16/2021 8:09pm
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Beeby wrote:
Isn’t this a MASSIVE stadium? Why do the tracks feel small
Stadium is big but the floor is one of the smallest of all the stadiums to get the fans close to the field for football.
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-MAVERICK- 3/16/2021 8:09pm
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hamncheeze wrote:
I will say, apart from the first half of the race in the whoops where Coop was losing time, he was pretty much perfect everywhere else...
I will say, apart from the first half of the race in the whoops where Coop was losing time, he was pretty much perfect everywhere else. Whatever issues they had with the air shock and the bike are a distant memory. Watching his bike vs Tomac's when they enter the ruts, it's so different. Coop's bike just pops in and is steady whereas Tomac's bike pops in but doesn't settle nearly as much. I think we are seeing that steel chassis effect when it's hard and slippy like these Arlington tracks.
Webb is on the spring shock.
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Dirty Points 3/16/2021 8:09pm
3/16/2021 8:09pm
KurtJ99 wrote:
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time...
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time to re-enter. Either way judgment will be made and we’ll get an 11 pager out of it.
Kevin852 wrote:
You mean instead of gassing it and jumping a tough block? All he had to do was turn left and enter the whoops
And what "extensive time to re-enter"? They said he turned the fastest segment of the race because of it.

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DonM 3/16/2021 8:12pm
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KurtJ99 wrote:
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time...
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time to re-enter. Either way judgment will be made and we’ll get an 11 pager out of it.
Kevin852 wrote:
You mean instead of gassing it and jumping a tough block? All he had to do was turn left and enter the whoops
Dirty Points wrote:
And what "extensive time to re-enter"? They said he turned the fastest segment of the race because of it.
No they said he was fastest through the whoops that lap...it was a joke
Dirty Points 3/16/2021 8:13pm
3/16/2021 8:13pm Edited Date/Time 3/16/2021 8:14pm
Kevin852 wrote:
You mean instead of gassing it and jumping a tough block? All he had to do was turn left and enter the whoops
Dirty Points wrote:
And what "extensive time to re-enter"? They said he turned the fastest segment of the race because of it.
DonM wrote:
No they said he was fastest through the whoops that lap...it was a joke
Joke or not. He probably was fastest through the whoops, which doesn't indicate "extensive time to re-enter".
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toddw12 wrote:
Wow. Ken didn’t come up with some bullshit excuse. I’m shocked.
He did “a littleeeeeee bit”
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Caffeine & Gasoline 3/16/2021 8:13pm
3/16/2021 8:13pm
KurtJ99 wrote:
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time...
I’m giving Ando a pass on that one. No way to re-enter the whoops safely. Accelerating was ok in that case IMO because of extensive time to re-enter. Either way judgment will be made and we’ll get an 11 pager out of it.
Your statement could be correct if he was pushed off the track in the whoops. He wasn’t. Riders down in the corner before the whoops. He jumped off track on his own accord.
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DonM 3/16/2021 8:14pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
And what "extensive time to re-enter"? They said he turned the fastest segment of the race because of it.
DonM wrote:
No they said he was fastest through the whoops that lap...it was a joke
Dirty Points wrote:
Joke or not. He probably was fastest through the whoops, which doesn't indicate "extensive time to re-enter".
No shit...
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soggy 3/16/2021 8:18pm
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Welp 450s are done and dusted congrats will be in order for Webb. Bring on the rest of 250 west and the shootouts.
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RalphS 3/16/2021 8:23pm
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AMA should dock Webb about 50 points, he'll still win and will make it more interesting. Feels like Villo running the 2
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DownSouth 3/16/2021 8:29pm
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nickm wrote:
Carlos has what, 5 championships as mechanic?
Crush wrote:
3 SX and 1 national with Dungey at KTM, 1 with Coop... I think that's right?
hamncheeze wrote:
2 outdoor titles, 2012 and 2015 along with the 3 SX titles with Dungey.
Also the 2006 250 sx east title with Davi Millsaps.
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Max Petro 3/16/2021 8:39pm
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I hit the jackpot on RM fantasy

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Crush 3/16/2021 8:42pm
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nickm wrote:
Carlos has what, 5 championships as mechanic?
Crush wrote:
3 SX and 1 national with Dungey at KTM, 1 with Coop... I think that's right?
hamncheeze wrote:
2 outdoor titles, 2012 and 2015 along with the 3 SX titles with Dungey.
Ah yep. Was thinking Goose still.
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Ranman68 3/16/2021 9:30pm
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Boring 450 main as far as the top 3 go, but it's just because of how close in speed the top 3-4 are.
Until now, I was thinking that Tomac just wasn't as good or driven as he was last year, but I'm starting to rethink that. The difference may just be that Roczen is better this year than he was last year (maybe due to a more consistent, less tiring bike?), and that Webb is also better than he was last year (finer tuned, healthier, and with no crash/minor injury/setback during this season like the one he suffered in Dallas last year). Barcia is definitely faster and more consistent than last year as well (better team and a more dialed in, consistent bike).
Maybe Tomac hasn't slipped. Maybe it is that Webb, Roczen, and Barcia are just measurably better than last year, so even a dialed in Tomac MUST be on par with his starts for a legit shot at the 2021 title. His starts just havent been as good on average, tracks this year haven't seemed to suit him quite as much on average, and thus being 3rd in points right now is where even the best Tomac would be. Maybe Tomac is as good as ever, but his main competitors are genuinely better this year, and Cooper Webb is just that fucking scary narly.
Tomac seems to me like he still enjoys racing, wants to win, and thus he is still trying. The field is just stouter this year. No question about it.
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Max Petro wrote:
I hit the jackpot on RM fantasy [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/03/16/483474/s1200_C4FFCDA8_C26E_483A_9B14_EDFA9CFED613.jpg[/img]
I hit the jackpot on RM fantasy

This happened to me once. I still ended up getting like 1500th place lol gave up on RM fantasy after that. Pulp is a real fantasy league and you really get your prizes
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