Arlington 2 track design....

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Edited Date/Time 3/16/2021 2:31pm
A major overhaul....

...and a nice long start...and 2 wall/step up jumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qVTkOXb4qc
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EngIceDave 3/15/2021 2:50pm
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The turn between the step ups should be 3 feet deep in sand
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EngIceDave wrote:
The turn between the step ups should be 3 feet deep in sand
Even better 3 feet of boggy mud, just water the shit out of it for 24hours.
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eric513anderson 3/15/2021 2:58pm
3/15/2021 2:58pm
EngIceDave wrote:
The turn between the step ups should be 3 feet deep in sand
luke11 wrote:
Even better 3 feet of boggy mud, just water the shit out of it for 24hours.
Biblical
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ProKawi24 3/15/2021 4:04pm
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Those 180's look like prime spots to pass.

Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled if we just at least get whoops that I couldn't skim in my fk'in wheelchair.
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crusty_xx 3/15/2021 4:06pm
3/15/2021 4:06pm
Awesome, not another goattrail track
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ProKawi24 wrote:
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass. Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled...
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass.

Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled if we just at least get whoops that I couldn't skim in my fk'in wheelchair.
First set of Loader made whoops.

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FlaNard 3/15/2021 5:13pm
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Didn’t JT$ say something along the lines of the track being so basic that the KTM juniors would be within a few tenths of Cooper and Kenny’s lap times? Laughing
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ProKawi24 wrote:
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass. Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled...
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass.

Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled if we just at least get whoops that I couldn't skim in my fk'in wheelchair.
Skuzzy29 wrote:
First set of Loader made whoops.

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Johnny Ringo 3/15/2021 5:32pm
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The track looks a lot better but WHY are the whoops so small? Always? Is Roger behind this?
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dsmith 3/15/2021 6:05pm
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I really hope lap times are alot more than 44...jeez
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TeamGreen 3/15/2021 6:18pm
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dsmith wrote:
I really hope lap times are alot more than 44...jeez
That track looks like it's over 50 second laps, to me?
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vdrsnk04 3/15/2021 7:22pm
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That corner into the whoops reminds me so much of the one where Alessi slammed Tickle. Cant wait for tomorrow!
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ProKawi24 wrote:
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass. Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled...
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass.

Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled if we just at least get whoops that I couldn't skim in my fk'in wheelchair.
Skuzzy29 wrote:
First set of Loader made whoops.

I guess they are trying to set a record, the track map shows 10 whoops but they are saying they snuck 11 in. Doesn't matter they'll become jumpers in qualifying.
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HD1200 3/15/2021 7:32pm
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ProKawi24 wrote:
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass. Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled...
Those 180's look like prime spots to pass.

Sand between those 2 wall jumps would be awesome but we won't get that lucky. I'd be thrilled if we just at least get whoops that I couldn't skim in my fk'in wheelchair.
Skuzzy29 wrote:
First set of Loader made whoops.

dkurtd wrote:
I guess they are trying to set a record, the track map shows 10 whoops but they are saying they snuck 11 in. Doesn't matter they'll...
I guess they are trying to set a record, the track map shows 10 whoops but they are saying they snuck 11 in. Doesn't matter they'll become jumpers in qualifying.
They're a little smaller (shorter and closer together) making room for an extra whoop
Johnny Lock 3/15/2021 7:38pm
3/15/2021 7:38pm
Am I the only one that can’t figure out where ur supposed to go after the finish line? Jesus my eyesight sucks.
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SoCalMX70 3/15/2021 8:10pm
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What's the last race that had something even close to a full lane of whoops? Whoops using an outside/edge of stadium long lane?

How about whoops where jumping was obviously slower?

The track maps this year all have the whoops in a familiar configuration... Toward the center of the track with 4-5 sections of the track on either end shortening it down to a few bumps that these guys just jump through in 2 or 3 touches.

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brocster 3/15/2021 8:14pm
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Johnny Lock wrote:
Am I the only one that can’t figure out where ur supposed to go after the finish line? Jesus my eyesight sucks.
Back up the start to right hander into the whoops
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SoCalMX70 wrote:
What's the last race that had something even close to a full lane of whoops? Whoops using an outside/edge of stadium long lane? How about whoops...
What's the last race that had something even close to a full lane of whoops? Whoops using an outside/edge of stadium long lane?

How about whoops where jumping was obviously slower?

The track maps this year all have the whoops in a familiar configuration... Toward the center of the track with 4-5 sections of the track on either end shortening it down to a few bumps that these guys just jump through in 2 or 3 touches.

Seattle 2019. Man whoops (again at 1:33):

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dsmith wrote:
I really hope lap times are alot more than 44...jeez
TeamGreen wrote:
That track looks like it's over 50 second laps, to me?
I'm thinking someone goes back in time before they get to the first turn.
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hamncheeze 3/15/2021 8:50pm
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The daytime version of those Seattle whoops were massive. They actually cut them down a bit for the night show.

JG33 had just come back to fill in for Yamaha and I remember watching him get bucked off hard and I was thinking he had to be wondering why in the hell he came back. Also I remember the 250 guys struggling except for Zombie Blose, who was just hammering through them every lap.

Fuck, that was my last live race.
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EngIceDave wrote:
The turn between the step ups should be 3 feet deep in sand
luke11 wrote:
Even better 3 feet of boggy mud, just water the shit out of it for 24hours.


Hell just leave one of these out there during the race lmao.
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dsmith wrote:
I really hope lap times are alot more than 44...jeez
TeamGreen wrote:
That track looks like it's over 50 second laps, to me?
Sully wrote:
I'm thinking someone goes back in time before they get to the first turn.
there's no way they will be able to hit 88mph Marty!
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ShawdowGlen 3/15/2021 9:08pm
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Johnny Lock wrote:
Am I the only one that can’t figure out where ur supposed to go after the finish line? Jesus my eyesight sucks.
Lay off the hooch man....



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tek14 3/16/2021 12:02am
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Another super narrow track with short whoops...
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Riesenberg448 3/16/2021 12:10am
3/16/2021 12:10am
Whoops are better (barely) in length, but the 90 after will ruin the passing opportunities. 90s and really 1.5 bowl turns setup for passing are terrible.

I know it's basic, but down and back with big bowls on the ends and one set of 90s on the end sweeping around make the best racing. The "creative" layout isn't going to create passing and ruins the passing spots.

As someone who has studied track design, the fact I can see a picture and see it's broken really sucks. The dudes who build these things are good at what they do in so many ways, so I just don't understand why they won't deliver good passing tracks. Is an "interesting" layout more important than good passing? Is passing bad for the show? (honestly asking?)

If they want "close racing" but follow the leader, but just "train" like an FMX course, they are doing it. And maybe in their goal for a show that is what they want. If so, it's their product, not mine and they are nailing it.

I do love Tuesday SX, I'll tune in. I hope I am wrong. The whoops picture excites me and reminds me of my AX days. Hopefully they can't hop through and I pray they don't roll them to nothing before the night show.

#rantover
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Press516 3/16/2021 6:58am
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For some reason, this spot on the track doesn't look quite like they intended. It will be interesting to see what ends up being the corner.


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Stuntman949 3/16/2021 8:25am
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Press516 wrote:
For some reason, this spot on the track doesn't look quite like they intended. It will be interesting to see what ends up being the corner...
For some reason, this spot on the track doesn't look quite like they intended. It will be interesting to see what ends up being the corner.


Going to form a nice rut in the start straight lol
eric513anderson 3/16/2021 9:13am
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Press516 wrote:
For some reason, this spot on the track doesn't look quite like they intended. It will be interesting to see what ends up being the corner...
For some reason, this spot on the track doesn't look quite like they intended. It will be interesting to see what ends up being the corner.


Look at the corner in between the step ups! Biblical amount of water there! They listened Laughing Laughing
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