Would you want to work in the industry?

Falcon
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2/10/2021 4:07pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2021 4:07pm
Rule #1, folks: negotiate salary LAST.
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EngIceDave
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2/10/2021 4:32pm
Poo poo this all you want, but you all know that this industry does have a lot of "who you know" aspect to it in order to get in.

Just works out that way.

Now here's a man extending his hand and offering it to someone. Sure it's entry level and likely hard work for low pay, but don't most jobs start there?

I didn't start too many high paying low working jobs....must've made a wrong turn in life....LOL

He's not expecting anyone to retire there, unless they want to, but it is your chance to get your foot in that door, add some new names to your contacts list and that's how you start moving up.

Job like this gives other companies a chance to see you work.

mrtuf may not like that idea, but knows it's true. Cross pollination is part of employment in this industry.

You want to work in the industry? Here's your foot in the door to the industry. Hard work and low pay is the standard entry fee.
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racin mason
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2/10/2021 4:47pm
The first rung on any ladder is at the bottom.
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Indy mxer
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2/11/2021 4:27am
The first rung on any ladder is at the bottom.
Agree! Too many don't get that concept.
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2/11/2021 8:16am
I wanna be a Monster girl....

Probably a bad idea....I couldn't keep my hands off myself.

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2/11/2021 8:55am
I have worked in this industry for nearly 20 years, everything from wrenching and working on race teams to selling and managing inventory. I like the industry, but I certainly do not do it for the money, after all most fast food employees probably make more then I do.
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Motox627!
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2/11/2021 9:10am
40acres wrote:
What is the salary and what does the benefits package consist of?
mrtuf wrote:
Just to clear this up. This is an entry level position for inside sales and to assist us at some trackside events. I hesitated to post...
Just to clear this up. This is an entry level position for inside sales and to assist us at some trackside events.
I hesitated to post this here for the negative response almost all posts get on this site from people who think they know but really don't. This would be a fun job for a person that wanted to be involved in the industry. If he enjoyed it here, there will be room for advancement as the US branch continues to grow, or they would have a good background to stay in the industry or just sales in general. And contrary to what some posted earlier 3 out of 4 of the employees here own their own houses, so you can make a decent living if you work for the right company as in any industry.
40acres wrote:
There must be a really good reason you skated right around my questions with coded language like "entry level" and "room for advancement".
You must crush interviews.
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deluxeman
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2/11/2021 9:18am
I looked at getting out of the Auto Parts business 20 years ago and into the motorsports parts business. After a few interviews and offers I found out that the job's in the motorcycle industry just don't pay very well. It may be fun but I like to eat and buy things.
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TeamGreen
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2/11/2021 9:20am Edited Date/Time 2/11/2021 9:21am
I’ve worked with the person posting this job. He’s ran a successful business, for many years, that’s had success in racing, too. The people that I know that have worked and raced for him have done well.
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2/11/2021 10:39am
People are always going to hate. If I were 20 years old and loved this sport I would do it. I often look back and would have loved to work the “circus” traveling and seeing things that many do not get to see. The perks are different than monetary. But they could out weigh them in the end
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dbx33 wrote:
I make some parts for another industry but would like to make a few great bike products. Dont have any distributor or retail channels lined up...
I make some parts for another industry but would like to make a few great bike products. Dont have any distributor or retail channels lined up tho is whats preventing me.
LungButter wrote:
Build parts.

Make website.

Sell parts.
not that easy. nobody will ever see the website. will be 25th page of google when someone types in anything we sell.
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dang472
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2/11/2021 10:58am
What’s funny is if Mitch Payton came on here offering an entry-level job, there’d be a bunch of people beating off to the thought of making $9/hr sweeping the shop floor. Granted UFO isn’t Pro Circuit, but this industry is all about young guys working around motorcycles for pretty low pay for the experience. Ask a Pro Circuit mechanic what he truly makes an hour with the 7 day work weeks. Try making what they do and live in SoCal. They do it because it’s an awesome experience that might lead to something else, not a retirement package at 55.
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EngIceDave
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2/11/2021 11:06am
Let me add one thing....Over the years, many people and interviewers have asked about how I got started and the one thing I always say is "Every shitty job I ever had taught me something to do this," and I honestly believe that.

Long before I started my biz, I worked at race tracks, in bike shops and even did telephone work for a motorcycle parts distributor.

Those jobs were educational about how this industry works. This job could be educational for you, and that idea you've had that you don't know how to do....this could be your masterclass on how to do it, while getting paid.
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2/11/2021 11:24am
mrtuf wrote:
Just to clear this up. This is an entry level position for inside sales and to assist us at some trackside events. I hesitated to post...
Just to clear this up. This is an entry level position for inside sales and to assist us at some trackside events.
I hesitated to post this here for the negative response almost all posts get on this site from people who think they know but really don't. This would be a fun job for a person that wanted to be involved in the industry. If he enjoyed it here, there will be room for advancement as the US branch continues to grow, or they would have a good background to stay in the industry or just sales in general. And contrary to what some posted earlier 3 out of 4 of the employees here own their own houses, so you can make a decent living if you work for the right company as in any industry.
I had the most fun when I was in my early 20s working in the motorcycle industry going to and getting to race every weekend, the best part was getting everything I wanted at cost or even free and just being involved. lots of great times and even though it was not a high paying jobs I was able to race and ride with all the new and cool stuff that I would not have been able to afford without the perks of the business. Cool
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RyanD797
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2/11/2021 11:54am
dbx33 wrote:
not that easy. nobody will ever see the website. will be 25th page of google when someone types in anything we sell.
SEO
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cz2crf2wc
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2/11/2021 12:10pm
The first rung on any ladder is at the bottom.
These days kids want to start with the ladder upside down
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2/11/2021 12:43pm
I arrived in El Cajon in 1982 at age 20 from Dallas on a Greyhound bus. (my car would not make the trip) I looked around town and saw a hole-in-the-wall Suzuki shop on the main drag. I offered to work for free just to get in the door. The owner started paying me after a few days. That job did get me exposure to a lot of customers. One offered me a gig in building maint. which was my start in HVAC. I still look back at those 3 years at the shop as the most fun job in so many ways. A mechanic for one of the Suzuki support riders would let me borrow practice bikes. I had access to some of the top riders back when El Cajon was a hot spot for talent. Great time in my life.
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2/11/2021 5:00pm
I don't know why everyone says you make zero money in this industry. I started at the bottom at a shop and do pretty good now and I know quite a large number of people that do much better in the business as well. Sure there are crappy jobs like many industries but to say there is no way to make a living is a bit of a stretch.
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2/11/2021 5:37pm
I dont think anyone said the money was zero, $12/hr and I get to play around with motorcycles all day. The down side for me is that after being in this industry for long there is really no where else to go.
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DirtDart
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2/11/2021 10:54pm
I’d like to be a manufacturer. I’m currently looking for a defunct brand to purchase so that I can sell it to KTM. Does anybody know the status of ATK or Maico and was it Pentax? I’d also be willing to sell to the Chinese or Indians.
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DirtDart
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2/11/2021 11:08pm
EngIceDave wrote:
Let me add one thing....Over the years, many people and interviewers have asked about how I got started and the one thing I always say is...
Let me add one thing....Over the years, many people and interviewers have asked about how I got started and the one thing I always say is "Every shitty job I ever had taught me something to do this," and I honestly believe that.

Long before I started my biz, I worked at race tracks, in bike shops and even did telephone work for a motorcycle parts distributor.

Those jobs were educational about how this industry works. This job could be educational for you, and that idea you've had that you don't know how to do....this could be your masterclass on how to do it, while getting paid.
Your comments are the most important to professionally developing yourself. When I entered the real job market after university I started at the bottom. Somebody told me to chase the hardest jobs that I could. In this process I gained a broad set of skills and demonstrated capability. I will admit that there were very difficult moments and toxic supervisors at each step.

The important thing is to take things away from each experience to better yourself, positively, not negatively.

When I reached the end of what I could do professionally I had to make a choice, that being to re invent myself. All of the experiences and all of the skills allowed me to do that into something new that allows me to continue to progress instead of being stuck.
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66TR66
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2/11/2021 11:16pm
As the old saying goes 'If you want to make 1 Million Dollars out of Motorsport, You better start out with 2 Million dollars.
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2/12/2021 1:25am
EngIceDave wrote:
Let me add one thing....Over the years, many people and interviewers have asked about how I got started and the one thing I always say is...
Let me add one thing....Over the years, many people and interviewers have asked about how I got started and the one thing I always say is "Every shitty job I ever had taught me something to do this," and I honestly believe that.

Long before I started my biz, I worked at race tracks, in bike shops and even did telephone work for a motorcycle parts distributor.

Those jobs were educational about how this industry works. This job could be educational for you, and that idea you've had that you don't know how to do....this could be your masterclass on how to do it, while getting paid.
You wouldn’t have came up with your product had you not been in and around the industry.

Some people will always be burger flippers and some will figure out how to excel in any industry.
EngIceDave
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2/12/2021 4:00am
EngIceDave wrote:
Let me add one thing....Over the years, many people and interviewers have asked about how I got started and the one thing I always say is...
Let me add one thing....Over the years, many people and interviewers have asked about how I got started and the one thing I always say is "Every shitty job I ever had taught me something to do this," and I honestly believe that.

Long before I started my biz, I worked at race tracks, in bike shops and even did telephone work for a motorcycle parts distributor.

Those jobs were educational about how this industry works. This job could be educational for you, and that idea you've had that you don't know how to do....this could be your masterclass on how to do it, while getting paid.
kkawboy14 wrote:
You wouldn’t have came up with your product had you not been in and around the industry. Some people will always be burger flippers and some...
You wouldn’t have came up with your product had you not been in and around the industry.

Some people will always be burger flippers and some will figure out how to excel in any industry.
This is true and I freely admit I was very lucky and my timing was very lucky/good.

I saw a problem with the early four strokes that ran wildly hot and looked into how to address it
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